Posted on 06/21/2021 8:22:08 AM PDT by Dacula
No comp at the college level, NONE. If the professional league wants to recruit out and hire then that’s when they get paid.
If this finally kills the NCAA that will be most excellent...
College sports should be for fun and exercise not a business.
The U.S. Olympic Committee was able to protect the players while still maintaining their amateur status by paying for insurance policies that would have covered them in the event of injuries.
I can't imagine the NCAA or individual schools couldn't do the same thing for college athletes.
College baseball is not nearly on the same level as football and basketball in those ways.
That’s because the NCAA allows a paltry number of baseball scholarships, and in addition, the mainstream media ignores college baseball, which, to me is much more interesting than MLB.
Some how, the lesser levels like Div 2 and 3, actually do that. Div 3 has no scholarships, and both levels has playoffs.
“it is still worth $200,000 to get in the door without a scholarship.”
It is not worth $200,000 for a useless degree. If someone charges $200,000 for a Fiat, it doesn’t make it worth $200,000.
Most of these athletes don’t have the IQ to obtain a worthwhile degree at these universities. They think they will be able to go pro. The vast majority would be bettered served learning a trade during these four years.
Perhaps the differences are that basketball and football started at the college level, and then became pro sports, whereas baseball at the pro and college level occurred at the same time.
I also remembered reading that UGA actually had a higher graduation rate for student athletes than Tech. I don't know if it was because the courses were easier or the athletes were smarter.
Bottom line was that it really did look like the student athletes were only there to beef up the programs and if they didn't make it to the pros the Varsity was a short walk away.
Basketball and football have no minor leagues because the collegiate versions of these sports were actually more popular than the professional leagues for a long time. It wasn't until the 1950s and 1960s that the NFL and NBA really eclipsed college football and basketball. So the NCAA was built on a collegiate foundation that already existed before the professionals came along.
Baseball and hockey were the other way around. Various professional leagues existed for those sports as far back as the 19th century. In the case of baseball, there were probably dozens of regional professional and semi-pro leagues all over the U.S. before World War II. MLB and the NHL grew out of a natural development where one or two of those leagues in each sport emerged as the "major" leagues, and the others either vanished or continued on as "minor" leagues.
Former UCLA star Ed O’Bannon played a major role in these developments. He noticed that a video game featuring an image of him in his Bruins jersey was available commercially in one of the popular titles. The NCAA and the school divvied up the proceeds and Ed didn’t even warrant a thank you.
Yes, Ed got a scholarship to attend UCLA. But the popularity of Bruins basketball earned the school many millions during his time there and helped subsidized other less-popular sports programs. Ed washed out of the NBA and the last I heard was working at a car dealership.
I know it’s a privilege to play in college and only the elites qualify. But it’s at least disconcerting to see the schools, the NCAA, and the coaches make out like bandits while the players are shut out. I also know that this will likely create a slippery slope when now even women’s soccer players will demand to get a cut when their programs are money losers.
Good luck NCAA but you’ve had it too good for too long.
SC has time for College sports but not for elections....
“Time to end the farce and make them professionals.”
I don’t watch professional sports now but am fully engaged in college sports, especially those smaller schools which upset the historically great schools. Most NCAA teams are not high dollar schools. If they must play players, or recruit for players against colleges that do pay, it will end varsity sports in hundreds of schools. They will not be able to handle the additional costs of salaries. And that is just not right. Few schools provide crip courses for players. Or as UNC basketball did, they could just sign the class roster and leave. That is criminal (fraud) and just does not go on elsewhere.
Basketball is a problem that needs fixing, but paying them is not the fix. They play too many games, two or sometimes three games a week is too many. Either rearrange the season to coincide with the semester and have the players drop out of classes for the semester, or limit the season to one game a week, on a Saturday. I know your reply will be “never happen.” And I agree, but the point is making them professional is not the answer.
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There are almost 1,100 NCAA institutions with less than 40 running profitable athletic departments. The unprofitable ones are heavily subsidized by student fees included in tuition.
Paying athletes will mean that a lot of schools will end their inter-collegiate sports programs as they will not be able to afford them. This will mean less opportunity for all athletes.
Why?
a. This ruling concerns a statute, it is not a constitutional issue.
b. College football and basketball (and to a lesser degree, other sports) have usurped the role of college education. Sports were suppose to be an addendum to a college education. Today, that college education is a farce added to college sports.
c. Please point out to us how the courts interpretation of the statute is incorrect.
Take aways from the article below:
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According to the NCAA, among the 65 autonomy schools in Division I, only 25 recorded a positive net generated revenue in 2019.
Among those reporting a net positive, the median profit per school was $7.9 million. And among the 40 autonomy schools reporting a negative net revenue, the median loss was $15.9 million. In other words, the majority of universities in the nation’s top athletic conferences
— the schools you see on TV every weekend competing for national championships — lost money through their sports programs to the tune of approximately $16 million each.
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If a state school that loss is made up by the state taxpayer ! Who thought he was paying for a higher education. If schools eventually start paying the “athletes” the taxpayers will just have to fork out more !
The schools will eventually be forced to divest themselves of big time athletics.
https://www.bestcolleges.com/blog/do-college-sports-make-money/
And maybe they should divest ! Stop being a taxpayer subsidized minor league for professional sports. Let the NFL, the NBA pay for a minor leagus system just like MLB does. Let colleges and universities go back to what the taxpayers are supposedly paying them to do.
The next shoe to fall will be the unionization of graduate students. They’ll demand “comparable wages” rather the their current “way-below-minimum-wage” wages. (Remember we are not counting tuition wavers as income!)
Rocketing up higher education costs even further !
So it is truly all about the Benjamins ! And the attitude is: “ I want mine now screw everyone else !”.
Not every sport is equal, and not every athlete will be able to participate in their preferred sport. If one is hoping to use sports as a way out where they are, they would be better off getting a quality education or learning a trade.
If the sport is profitable, there will be those who figure out how to profit from it. If it is not, why have the universities subsidize them, other than to meet Title IX requirements?
Minor leaguers in lower leagues get little. A college scholarship to a major university is prob. min. of 40k or so a year. Most minor leaguers get less.
Basically, the publics’ obsession for time fillers like sports is what drives the whole enterprise...they just selling the product any way they can
Fairs points. Why is government in the sports business? The rise of the NCAA and pro sports goes with the fall of the AAU.
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