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“Just Blind Chance”: The Rising Call For “Random Selection” For College Admissions
Nation & State ^ | 6-21-2021 | Jonathan Turley

Posted on 06/21/2021 6:03:32 AM PDT by blam

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To: blam

Browns fan here. If we had random Super Bowl winners maybe my Brownies would have a few by now. Sorry about that Tom Brady.


21 posted on 06/21/2021 6:25:57 AM PDT by Slehn
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To: blam

Truth hurts. It still must be accepted.


22 posted on 06/21/2021 6:26:57 AM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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23 posted on 06/21/2021 6:27:42 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)

A real question...

Hypothetical..

If a student is promoted through k-12 based on age rather than learning.
And at the end of their High School is functionally illiterate.

They are now able to apply to the elite colleges. And have just as much chance as any other of being admitted.

So, the Illiterate gets into MIT. Does MIT drop their standards in order to retain the student? If 20-30% of their incoming class is NOT academically fit, Do they drop their standards across the board? At which point an “elite” scroll stops being an “elite” school?

Due to lack of ability, and then lack of participation do they stop offering cutting edge courses of study? s they no longer have enough students to warrant offerings?


24 posted on 06/21/2021 6:30:58 AM PDT by uranium penguin
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To: ClearCase_guy

Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded — here and there, now and then — are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty. This is known as “bad luck.” ~ Robert Heinlein


25 posted on 06/21/2021 6:31:35 AM PDT by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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To: blam

That will do wonders for all K-12 education.


26 posted on 06/21/2021 6:32:02 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom ("Pour les vaincre il faut de l'audace, encore de l'audace, toujours de l'audace")
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That will do wonders for all K-12 education.


27 posted on 06/21/2021 6:32:12 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom ("Pour les vaincre il faut de l'audace, encore de l'audace, toujours de l'audace")
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To: blam

A perfect plan to make sure that countries with merit based STEM education programs succeed. This will greatly advantage China, Russia and India. Who will want anything designed built or medical in nature by a graduate of such an American system?


28 posted on 06/21/2021 6:33:02 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: P-Marlowe

The winners will be the unions, the teachers, etc. More perks and job security galore.


29 posted on 06/21/2021 6:33:32 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (Trump took down ISIS; Biden took down Dr. Seuss)
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"If you show interest, your name goes in a big hat."

This is plainly a stupid way to "qualify" for higher education.

However, I think they ARE on to something.

We should elect our politicians this way:

If you fail to show interest, your name goes in a big hat. Then do the random selection.

(Hat Tip - Bill Buckley and the phone book.)

30 posted on 06/21/2021 6:35:22 AM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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Why not just have a lottery system that awards some high school seniors with a prestigious college degree? They could completely avoid all that tough work of studying and taking exams. It seems only fair.


31 posted on 06/21/2021 6:37:33 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom ("Pour les vaincre il faut de l'audace, encore de l'audace, toujours de l'audace")
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Elite colleges MUST discriminate in favor of minorities, in order to have any significant number in their student population.

Only 1% of blacks score 700 or above on SAT math, versus 9% of whites, 2% of latinos and 35% of Asians

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-front/2020/12/01/sat-math-scores-mirror-and-maintain-racial-inequity/


32 posted on 06/21/2021 6:37:57 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: blam

Idiocracy was a comedy movie not a plan for the future.


33 posted on 06/21/2021 6:40:23 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Neither safety nor security exist in nature. Everything is dangerous and has risk.)
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Owww, owww, owwww, I know. How about a lottery like the did in the late 60’s early 70’s for the draft. Of course I had already enlisted before they started that and my number would have been like 87th anyway. LOL! :-}


34 posted on 06/21/2021 6:41:05 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this?)
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I am totally in favor of random selection for university admissions on one condition:

—All university presidents and administrators and professors must be randomly selected from the population.
—All members of Congress must be randomly selected from the population.
—All members of college and professional sports teams must be randomly selected from the population.


35 posted on 06/21/2021 6:46:10 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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Self-Loathing Socialist Democrats these days would gladly embrace a yearly stoning of a ‘randomly selected’ white person as portrayed in, ‘The Lottery.’ ;)


36 posted on 06/21/2021 6:47:26 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: blam

Just another way for the really (book) smart to demonstrate that common sense is really not so common.


37 posted on 06/21/2021 6:49:04 AM PDT by Sir Bangaz Cracka (Slamming dat white cracka'a head into dat sidewalk causin he be scared)
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To: blam
This is Turley's downside. He loves worthless thought pieces like this, instead of focusing on slicing up his Unconstitutionalists on the Left.

So community college on up through the bottom half of all ranked universities are basically a damn lottery right now. Most state schools offer remedial entry to matriculation. What these pinheads are calling for is the Ivy's to go random, and it will never never never never never never never never never never never happen. For one thing, money, and by that I mean legacy/alumni money; and two, a place like Yale would have to institute a remedial entry/retention plan with 008s and 009s like everyone else lofl.

No, not a chance in hell the top 50 school muttlerize their own population after they've intentionally ruined the rest.

38 posted on 06/21/2021 6:52:00 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (Eric Coomer of Dominion Voting Systems Is The Blue Dress.)
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To: blam

Equality = Equal Opportunity

Equity = Equal Outcome

Randomly selected MDs. What a great idea!


39 posted on 06/21/2021 6:54:37 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Tse-tung)
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Prof. Cathy O’Neil


40 posted on 06/21/2021 6:58:24 AM PDT by libh8er
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