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Covid-19 Vaccines Lead to New Infections and Mortality: The Evidence is Overwhelming
https://truthbasedmedia.com ^ | June 17, 2021 | by GLOBAL RESEARCH

Posted on 06/17/2021 7:35:21 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: semimojo
"Anti-vaxxer". Nice propaganda.

They're not "anti-vaxxers", they're opposed to forced experimentation on human beings as was specifically addressed in the Nuremberg Code in 1947 after the Nazis decided to commit atrocities on those they considered less than human.

21 posted on 06/17/2021 8:52:06 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: pgyanke

My conclusion?

From Top to Bottom, they all lied about the stats from the beginning and at ever stage since then. Even after they new they had problems, they simply lied more.

I never believed their published stats. I don’t believe anything from the Media, the Experts or from the Fed Gov.

I opted out, will not participate.


22 posted on 06/17/2021 9:03:31 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: libh8er
“truthbasedmedia”.

Why don’t you go back to Rachel Maddow if you don’t like conservative sites committed to truth in a day of censorship? Your mindless criticisms fit in well there
23 posted on 06/17/2021 9:05:11 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Gérard Delépine, MD is an Oncologist, Orthopedic Surgeon, and Statistician at the Raymond Poincaré Hospital in Paris

Which of those disciplines best qualifies the doctor to opine on vaccines and infectious diseases? Or are all those doctor thingies alike?

24 posted on 06/17/2021 9:25:37 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: Jan_Sobieski
You seem smart.

One doesn’t need to be a genius to avoid going to an orthopedic surgeon for infectious disease and vaccine advice.

25 posted on 06/17/2021 9:28:27 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: semimojo

“ Which of those disciplines best qualifies the doctor to opine on vaccines and infectious diseases? Or are all those doctor thingies alike?”

Well, post your credentials here and we can judge if you are a credible source.

Be sure to list your publications.


26 posted on 06/17/2021 10:06:41 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (“Old wood best to burn, old wine to drink, old friends to trust, and old authors to read.” )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Well, post your credentials here and we can judge if you are a credible source.

I’m not relying on my credentials, I’m relying on my observation about the flaws in his analysis.

Likewise, I didn’t start out criticizing his piece based on his credentials but on his choosing unrealistic dates for when populations got vaccinated.

Do you have something to say about my critique?

27 posted on 06/17/2021 10:28:28 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Well, post your credentials here and we can judge if you are a credible source. Be sure to list your publications.

Internet doctors with Credentials? LOL!

28 posted on 06/17/2021 10:34:32 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (When everyone is an expert, no one is.)
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To: semimojo
I’m not relying on my credentials, I’m relying on my observation about the flaws in his analysis.

Well, fair enough, but without your credentials we know nothing about the value of your "observation.

29 posted on 06/17/2021 11:09:17 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (“Old wood best to burn, old wine to drink, old friends to trust, and old authors to read.” )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Well, fair enough, but without your credentials we know nothing about the value of your "observation.

Not sure you’ve thought this line of argument through. If credentials determine correctness Fauci’s immaculate.

It’s trivially easy to find strong vaccine supporters with better qualifications than Dr. Delepine.

If you’re not comfortable using your own reasoning powers to evaluate these claims, fine, but blindly trusting the person with the longest resume may not serve you well.

30 posted on 06/17/2021 11:25:29 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: semimojo
--> If you’re not comfortable using your own reasoning powers to evaluate these claims, fine, but blindly trusting the person with the longest resume may not serve you well.

It is never size, it is expertise.

The man is trained in 2 medical areas, has had a very long and successful practice with real patients, has an expertise in statistical analysis, and is widely published.

I consider all of those areas to add expertise and credibility to this doctor.

31 posted on 06/17/2021 12:29:29 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (“Old wood best to burn, old wine to drink, old friends to trust, and old authors to read.” )
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To: libh8er

Why do you say that? Moderna claims the same basic thing in their filings with the SEC. They said it was considered gene therapy.


32 posted on 06/17/2021 4:22:15 PM PDT by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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To: semimojo

“ Not sure you’ve thought this line of argument through. If credentials determine correctness Fauci’s immaculate.”

Fauci has been nothing but a bureaucrat for decades. He also funded gain of function research which likely caused this in the first place. Not too wise to use him as an example.

Take the jab if you want but don’t get all pissy when others point out things that go against the narrative you and CNN have found yourselves in the same side of,


33 posted on 06/17/2021 4:28:47 PM PDT by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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To: BlueMondaySkipper; aMorePerfectUnion
Fauci has been nothing but a bureaucrat for decades.

You’ll be very hard pressed to find someone with better credentials to deal with a viral pandemic. Like him or not, that’s just a fact.

It was the FReeper I was talking to who was touting the importance of credentials, not me. Maybe take it up with them?

34 posted on 06/17/2021 4:37:59 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: semimojo

“ You’ll be very hard pressed to find someone with better credentials to deal with a viral pandemic. Like him or not, that’s just a fact.

Despite his credentials, he has performed terribly.

The man is corrupt and compromised and funded the lab that unleashed the pandemic.


35 posted on 06/17/2021 4:42:07 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (“Old wood best to burn, old wine to drink, old friends to trust, and old authors to read.” )
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To: walkingdead
What we do see in the numbers, is that pre vaccinations, covid was on the way out. Every nation shows the classic virus curve pre vaccination availability. Which means the pandemic was already over and if not over then surely on its way out.

So incredibly embarrassing. Do you actually believe this nonsense?

36 posted on 06/17/2021 4:45:15 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: BlueMondaySkipper

Because there is no “gene editing” involved. If Moderna actually said that, they are taking liberties with the term. A vaccine is not a ‘therapy’. A therapy is what you give to a person already suffering from a disease to treat that disease. A vaccine is to prevent the occurrence of a disease. By definition it cannot be therapy and certainly not ‘gene therapy’.

Which reminds me, I still need to answer your question on the definition of a vaccine. I haven’t forgotten, just kept putting it off. I will get to it at some point.


37 posted on 06/17/2021 4:50:07 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: libh8er

They changed the definition of vaccine to include these gene therapy things during the pandemic. If you try to provide proof, make sure you go back in time as words matter, and changing definitions don’t count.

They (Moderna) indeed said it was considered gene therapy. I suspect they know more about the products they developed than you do. I also don’t think they would be sloppy with their words in an SEC filing.

You do know that none of the “vaccines” actually PREVENT the disease, right? That’s not news to anyone so I assume you know that. Knowing that makes your point about a vaccine being to prevent the occurrence of a disease moot. None of them do that. They are supposed to lower your reaction to it. You know, like a therapy


38 posted on 06/18/2021 7:27:36 AM PDT by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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