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It’s time for tough restrictions on ‘ghost guns’ that can’t be traced (barf alert)
Chicago S-T ^ | 17 june 2021 | Garen Wintemute

Posted on 06/17/2021 5:10:09 AM PDT by rellimpank

It’s not expensive or difficult to produce large numbers of untraceable firearms in the United States. Whether for private use, sale on the criminal market or arming violent extremists, it’s actually startlingly cheap and easy to mass-produce firearms that police can’t track — what are often called “ghost guns.”

For just over $2,000 I can buy a machine — not much bigger than a desktop laser printer — that will do the trick. If I’m feeling handy, I can get it done with just simple power tools.

As I discuss in a recent journal article about ghost guns, it’s perfectly legal to privately manufacture firearms without a license in the U.S. But it’s illegal to sell or give away privately manufactured firearms without a license.

A person producing a single “ghost gun” for their own personal use may not rise to the level of official concern, but the undetected mass production of untraceable weapons makes it much more difficult to map and disrupt the illicit markets that supply guns for use in crime.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicago.suntimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: banglist; ghostguns; rkba
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--the usual by a dedicated anti-gunner--
1 posted on 06/17/2021 5:10:09 AM PDT by rellimpank
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It is intellectually dishonest of Wintemute to fail to mention that most guns in the United States are unregistered and untraceable.

This is all nonsense.

We added over 20 million guns to the private stock in the United States last year.

A few tens of thousands of homemade guns do not make a difference.

But, they show the Government is still limited, rights mean things. Laws mean things.

Any limit on government power is a horror to Leftists.

2 posted on 06/17/2021 5:20:55 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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To: rellimpank

“But it’s illegal to sell or give away privately manufactured firearms without a license.”

So...there are already restrictions on “ghost guns”, at least for the law-abiding. What makes this asshat think that criminals will care about new laws?


3 posted on 06/17/2021 5:21:19 AM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: rellimpank
Another key point: Tracing of guns is virtually worthless.

It accomplishes nothing.

Almost no crimes are solved with gun tracing; the costs are enormous for almost no benefit.

4 posted on 06/17/2021 5:22:16 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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To: rellimpank

Do they even try to trace gang guns in Chicago? Why not trace illegal voting?


5 posted on 06/17/2021 5:23:55 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: rellimpank

What are the stats on ghost guns being used in crimes? That’s what I thought.


6 posted on 06/17/2021 5:24:14 AM PDT by Spok (There are many more things that frighten us than can cause us harm.)
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To: rellimpank

I have a better idea; why not trace criminals?


7 posted on 06/17/2021 5:30:46 AM PDT by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the far North)
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To: PROCON

PING


8 posted on 06/17/2021 5:31:20 AM PDT by GailA (Constitution vs evil Treasonous political Apparatchiks, Constitutional Conservative.)
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To: sima_yi

That would be racist.


9 posted on 06/17/2021 5:36:58 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("I see you did something -- why you so racist?")
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To: Spok

The number isn’t zero. Very low, but gangs have been known to manufacture them.


10 posted on 06/17/2021 5:39:31 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (All worry about monsters that'll eat our face, but it's our job to ask WHY it wants to eat our face.)
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To: rellimpank

Too bad the anti-gunners are pro-criminal. If we could deal appropriately with violent felons, there would be no gun “problem.”


11 posted on 06/17/2021 5:41:28 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: rellimpank; mylife; Joe Brower; MaxMax; Randy Larsen; waterhill; Envisioning; AZ .44 MAG; umgud; ...

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12 posted on 06/17/2021 5:41:59 AM PDT by PROCON (Our rights do not come from government, therefore they cannot take them away.)
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To: marktwain

12 year old boys can bang out rough AK pattern rifles using scrap metal in Afghanistan in a few hours.

And they work well enough.

I’m just saying.

L


13 posted on 06/17/2021 5:43:56 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is. )
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To: ClearCase_guy

It might make better sense than what they are doing(and accomplishing nothing)now. Almost anything can be called “racist” if you look at it a certain way. Which is more important?....tracking down criminals & their actions or possibly offending someone who is looking at all the different ways they could be “offended”. I’m offended when someone who should be jailed gets off on a technicality; or perhaps is never even arrested. There seems to be a lot of that going around these days.


14 posted on 06/17/2021 5:49:01 AM PDT by oldtech
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To: rellimpank
FOAD Biden, et al. Can you say FREEDOM!

I love 80% lower mfgs.

15 posted on 06/17/2021 5:58:41 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Delete FB, TWTR, GOOGL, AMZN, YHOO, Gmail/chrome. Use Gab, Brave + DDG, VPN, Freerepublic )
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To: rellimpank

It’s not expensive or difficult to produce large numbers of untraceable firearms in the United States.


Which is another reason why gun control is a futile exercise.


16 posted on 06/17/2021 5:58:59 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: rellimpank

It’s not expensive or difficult to produce large numbers of untraceable firearms in the United States.


Which is another reason why gun control is a futile exercise. The technology is pre-industrial.


17 posted on 06/17/2021 5:59:24 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Lurker
Yep, and internet legends build working semi AK's out of shovel.


18 posted on 06/17/2021 6:00:31 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Delete FB, TWTR, GOOGL, AMZN, YHOO, Gmail/chrome. Use Gab, Brave + DDG, VPN, Freerepublic )
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To: mountainlion
"Why not trace illegal voting?" It's time to get tough on . Worthless talk - drugs, teenage pregnancy, cop behavior, Iran ... Thousands of forums for public expression. Millions of words needed to provide the content. Thousands of authors. They all have to supply a quantity of words. Much repetition, much folksy, irrelevant demonstrations to show that they are interesting people, and also to produce the necessary amount of words.
19 posted on 06/17/2021 6:04:12 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: rellimpank

Freedom is a pesky thing for tyrants


20 posted on 06/17/2021 6:22:24 AM PDT by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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