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Pediatric cardiologists explain myocarditis and why your teen should still get a Covid-19 vaccine
Mercury News ^ | 6/14/21 | Elizabeth Cohen | CNN Senior Medical Correspondent

Posted on 06/14/2021 9:10:03 AM PDT by Pollard

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To: Pollard

“But pediatric cardiologists have a message for these parents: Covid-19 should scare you more — a whole lot more — than the vaccine.”

The article promises to explain the relative risk, and then fails to do so. Why, exactly should Covid-19 scare parents “a whole lot more”?


61 posted on 06/14/2021 9:53:30 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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To: mewzilla

Especially when the CoupFlu won’t.


62 posted on 06/14/2021 9:53:33 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: mewzilla

The same could be said for COVID-19 infection, could it not?


63 posted on 06/14/2021 9:55:32 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: Pollard
Since abortion was legalized, the US Medical system has suffered a continuous moral free fall. There are good doctors and scientists out there, however the good ones are browbeat, threatened, censured, and punished for any disagreement with the powers that be.

Ask your medical professional if they will denounce the following abominations. Few will…

1. Vaccines and medicines developed using aborted fetal cells
2. Abortion
3. Baby body part sales
4. Baby body part experiments
5. Forced Euthanasia
6. Forced experimental vaccination of our children
64 posted on 06/14/2021 9:57:04 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

The vaccines are more likely to harm juveniles than a genuine case of CoupFlu.

And I don’t remember this concern when in 2009 H1N1 was killing kids, do you?

We didn’t shut down the country. Muzzle the citizenry. And kids really were dying in that one.


65 posted on 06/14/2021 9:59:48 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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Asking a doctor if you need a vaccine is like asking a barber if you need a haircut.

“An interesting case study about this follows a cohort of 389 children with chronic throat issues. The doctors declared 174 of those children needed surgery to remove their tonsils. The 215 who didn’t need the surgery were presented in front of different doctors, who prescribed surgery for 99 of them. Different doctors then saw the remaining 116 and scheduled 52 more for surgery.

In the desire to help patients, patients lives are put at risk by over-intervention.”

https://thisisdialectic.com/2020/09/07/are-hospitals-a-scam/


66 posted on 06/14/2021 10:00:01 AM PDT by proust (All posts made under this handle are, for the intents and purposes of the author, considered satire.)
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proust wrote: “It’s not even a vaccine. So much for scientists and precise terminology.”

Definition of a vaccine: a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.

These vaccines clearly fit that definition.


67 posted on 06/14/2021 10:00:11 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: Pollard

Easy for this doc to say, he doesn’t have a kid who has heart inflammation, he would be talking differently if it were his kid


68 posted on 06/14/2021 10:04:20 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Pollard
Physicians have strayed so far from normal epidemiological methods of disease control that it is getting very hard to trust any of them. 1)Risk versus benefit...if the morbidity of the disease within an area is not severe hold off vaccination; the disease can be controlled by distancing, hand washing, and avoiding anyone with symptoms 2) vaccinate only those that are at risk of death from the disease 3) If the vaccination has more side effects than routine vaccinations only vaccinate those at risk until the glitches from the vaccine are ironed out 4) insure that the data from the morbidity is based upon reliable testing and results that can be verified

My experience with charlatans within a profession have jaded me especially in the areas of development and promoting a vaccine. The human medical community is no different.

69 posted on 06/14/2021 10:13:04 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: DugwayDuke

“a substance”

Again, too sloppy and non-specific. A bullet is a substance made of lead which can also stop a virus.


70 posted on 06/14/2021 10:13:59 AM PDT by proust (All posts made under this handle are, for the intents and purposes of the author, considered satire.)
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To: mewzilla
"The vaccines are more likely to harm juveniles than a genuine case of CoupFlu."

Is that so? 15% of Ohio State University athletes infected with COVID-19 had myocarditis. College level athletes? That's about as healthy as you can get. 48% of high school endurance athletes in another study showed signs of myocarditis after COVID-19 infection. The Big 10 screening found it in 2.3% of their athletes after COVID-19 infection.

If you're worried about mycarditis in your kids, they're definitely better off with the vaccine. And if you're worried about complications and death, over 300 kids under 18 have already died from COVID-19. 317 at the most recent count. Thankfully, it's very rare, but as you said yourself, it makes no difference how rare it is when it's YOUR kid, right?

71 posted on 06/14/2021 10:17:51 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: proust

Which definition would you like to use?


72 posted on 06/14/2021 10:18:16 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: proust

proust wrote: “Again, too sloppy and non-specific. A bullet is a substance made of lead which can also stop a virus”

The fact that you don’t like the definition doesn’t change the fact that it is the accepted definition of a virus. Of course, it is convenient for the anti-vaxxers to have their own definition of a virus. That way they can claim anything that doesn’t fit their definition isn’t a vaccine which is rubbish.


73 posted on 06/14/2021 10:23:23 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Actually no it hasn’t.


74 posted on 06/14/2021 10:26:52 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood (https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3804407/posts?q=1&;pag)
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To: proust

I just got pushed into a 100K surgery that it turns out I didn’t need.

I am pretty hacked off about it.

I wouldn’t call it malpractice because there were diagnostic reasons to come to the conclusion.

However, I will say had they made more of an effort to do a differential diagnosis I might have been spared. Instead, I was pushed into surgery and had my wits scared out of me. I received a lot of pushback on trying to get any kind of differential diagnosis from the surgeons that I “interviewed”.

Now the search continues to find out what is wrong with me. No one is cutting on me again until more than a CT scan is done on me and extensive bloodwork is done.

by the way, always have two pathologists look at your tissue. Report two says something different than report 1 but conclusion is the same. So now I guess I need a 3 opinion to be sure.


75 posted on 06/14/2021 10:27:46 AM PDT by RummyChick (To President Trump: https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3923111/posts)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

And here’s another doc who disagrees with the “vax the children” program.

“Peter McCullough states one whistleblower at CMS and two at CDC. Data coming from Centre for Medicaid Services pointing to 50000 dead in US from/associated with the vaccine.”

Interview with a highly published Texas A&M medical school professor and Heart doctor.
https://www.brighteon.com/657cceb5-f9a1-435b-9a96-cbb4b28489aa


76 posted on 06/14/2021 10:40:14 AM PDT by JCL3 (As Richard Feynman might have said, this is reality taking precedence over public relations.)
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To: montag813
NO teens die from Covid...yet they should be “very afraid.”

A few very unhealthy teens died. Same with the vaccine. The greatest risk from COVID or vaccination comes from extremely poor health.

15 year old vaccine victim: "Trisomey 21, Atrioventricular canal s/p repair, hypothyroidism, asthma, obstructive sleep apnea, cervical spine instability, hypotonia, scoliosis, feeding difficulties, renal dysplasia, autism, chronic constipation, bronchopulmonary dysplasia, mixed conductive and sensorineural hearing loss, binocular vision disorder, gastroesophgeal reflux,"

Someone with that many problems should be protected from COVID, but not using two shots of Moderna, that's just dumb.

77 posted on 06/14/2021 10:49:46 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: 1malumprohibitum
I saw an amazing stat the other day. Zero child deaths from Covid.

"As of June 9, 2,637 people under age 30 have had deaths that involved Covid-19, according to the CDC. As of June 5, preliminary data shows 3,110 people under the age of 18 have been hospitalized, a number the CDC says is likely an underestimate."

78 posted on 06/14/2021 10:54:53 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: proust
Over 100 deaths in VAERS are exactly these words and nothing more (no cause of death, no conditions, no symptoms, nothing):
-----> Patient passed away within 60 days of receiving a COVID vaccine
OR:
-----> patient passed away with in 60 days of receiving COVID vaccine series

VAERS also contains tons of coincidental deaths that say so in the description. It also has allergic reaction deaths. Subtract those out and see what is left. Then make a judgment on safety.

Bottom line, not "perfectly safe". There are many people lying and saying the vaccines are "perfectly safe". Are they unsafe? Scientifically we don't know, because we are still in phase 3.

79 posted on 06/14/2021 10:56:41 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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“An interesting case study about this follows a cohort of 389 children with chronic throat issues. The doctors declared 174 of those children needed surgery to remove their tonsils. The 215 who didn’t need the surgery were presented in front of different doctors, who prescribed surgery for 99 of them. Different doctors then saw the remaining 116 and scheduled 52 more for surgery.”
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The 64 children who were remaining (not recommended for surgical tonsil removal) after that last round of examinations were then presented to yet more different doctors. Eighteen of the children were recommended for gender reassignment surgery and an additional 29 were diagnosed as either ADHD or Autistic. /sarc


80 posted on 06/14/2021 11:00:11 AM PDT by House Atreides
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