Posted on 06/10/2021 11:00:53 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
Two guests aboard the Celebrity Millennium tested positive for Covid-19 in required end-of-cruise testing, the cruise line said in a Thursday news release. Celebrity Millennium -- the first major cruise ship allowing American passengers since the pandemic forced a pause on the industry -- set sail on Saturday.
The two positive guests, which shared a stateroom on the ship, are asymptomatic and are now in isolation while being monitored by a medical team, the release said.
"We are conducting contact tracing, expediting testing for all close contacts and closely monitoring the situation," the news release said. The ship is sailing "with fully vaccinated crew and guests and following comprehensive protocols that align with our destination partners and exceed CDC guidelines to protect the health and safety of our guests," the release said. The 7-day cruise from St. Maarten includes port stops in Barbados, Aruba and Curacao. All guests were required to show vaccination proof and a negative Covid-19 test within 72 hours before from St. Maarten Saturday, the release said. About 500 passengers are on board, over 95% who are fully vaccinated, according to previous CNN reporting. Children who could not yet receive vaccinations were required to show negative Covid-19 tests.
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And it goes to show how useless all those measures are.
I don't see a problem. The virus is with us forever. The vaccine prevents us from getting hospitalized and then possibly dying. But it does not percent us from getting infected.
JOKE!
It doesn’t prevent anyone from being hospitalized or dying either.
There have been too many reports of breakthrough cases where those very things are happening.
On the Diamond Princess cruise ship, 712 people became infected with COVID-19 and 14 died.
On this ship, 2 are infected and asymptomatic. No evidence of any spread has yet emerged.
All their safety measures are useless? Are you serious?
There are 330 million Americans. Assuming that 200 million gets vaccinated, there will be at least 5% "breakthrough" cases. And yes, some of them will die. Nothing is 100%. But so far, it's very effective.
Data from Israel shows that the Pfizer vaccine blocks 94% of asymptomatic COVID-19 infections and 97% of symptomatic infections. (https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/11/pfizer-covid-vaccine-blocks-94percent-of-asymptomatic-infections-and-97percent-of-symptomatic-cases-in-israeli-study.html)
So yes, it does block infection. But like every vaccine, it does not do so perfectly. The smallpox vaccine is 95% effective. The whooping cough vaccine is about 80% effective. If Pfizer blocks 97% of COVID-19 infections, that means 3% get through (for various reasons, mostly compromised immune systems). 3% of the US population is 10 million and 6% is 20 million. But that leaves 320 million who would be spared symptomatic COVID-19 and 310 million spared any COVID-19 at all. Those numbers aren’t exact to our situation because infections have already happened in a lot of people, but it gives an idea of how that 3% scales when you apply it to large populations.
Breakthrough cases are fully expected. In fact, they’ve been lower than expected so far, which is good news.
Oh, here I am quoting numbers at you and you’re already writing the same thing. I feel silly!
Seems you have a solid handle on how this math works out.
They’ll be just fine.
So will everyone else.
The panic is getting kinda old by now.
Indeed, and the flu will be with us forever, by logic. As such, why call it a vaccine. I mean gee, when peeps get a flu shot, its not called a vaccine, it’s a shot, right?
The idiocy of all this COVID *shit will be with us ‘forever’ too...../s
“Data from Israel shows that the Pfizer vaccine blocks 94% of asymptomatic COVID-19 infections and 97% of symptomatic infections.”
That doesn’t even make any sense. What is that supposed to mean?
How can anyone know exactly how many “infections” these experimental substances “block?” And what does it mean to “block” an infection? Does that mean that an exposed person doesn’t develop the disease? If they don’t get the disease, how do you know they were exposed? (In real life; not the lab.)
These arguments for the “effectiveness” of the experimental substances are gibberish. If it were true, one should be able to make a case for that with a few simple statements.
Bingo.
Given a particular cohort, within a particular region, one can determine how many people should become infected (the control group). You then compare that to the vaccinated group and see what the differential is. Israel has extensive data on their population. They agreed to make aggregated COVID-19 and Pfizer data public as part of their deal with Pfizer (along with paying more per dose) to jump the line for vaccine doses.
The public data from Israel has been invaluable for seeing how a mass vaccination campaign impacts the pandemic. In this case, the pandemic has cratered. 14 new cases per day on average now and 1 COVID death. In the entire country of over 9 million people. And all their neighbors are seeing COVID cases and deaths either hold steady or rise. In Israel, COVID-19 is over.
Ghost ship.
“Given a particular cohort, within a particular region, one can determine how many people should become infected”
Determine? Is that what we call a SWAG: a scientific wild-ass guess?
Perhaps such a guess would have some validity if you had enough data: say, 20 years’ worth, but we don’t.
“(the control group).”
That’s a definition of “control group” that I’ve never heard before. I don’t see how a control group could be the number of people you guess “should” become infected.
“You then compare that to the vaccinated group and see what the differential is.”
You compare the number of people that you think “should” become infected with the vaccinated group, and that gives you...what?
The vaxx improves Absolute Risk of getting MILD covid by only 0.46%:
“The only reported indication of vaccine effectiveness is the Israeli mass vaccination campaign using the Pfizer–BioNTech product. Although the design and methodology are radically different from the randomised trial, Dagan and colleagues report an RRR of 94%, which is essentially the same as the RRR of the phase 3 trial (95%) but with an ARR of 0·46%”
(https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S2666-5247%2821%2900069-0)
But employers are forcing this on their employees.
Your dedication to tyranny is helping them do this.
People used to get sick on cruise ships and spread their flus, colds and viruses long before covid... That’s always been a risk that people who go on cruises appear to accept.
Twenty years ago, it seemed like every 6 months the news was breathlessly reporting another Norovirus outbreak on a cruise ship. In my mind, it was one of the parting gifts of going on a cruise, lol.
Every one on such a cruise should be engaging in Ivermectin based prophylaxis protocols:
You can see them here.
Charts for both early treatment and prophylaxis: https://c19early.com/ https://c19legacy.com/
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Sources:
1) Your own doctor, you will need a prescription, but that failing,
2) International Sources Ziverdo Kit for early treatment: https://www.indiamart.com/proddetail/ziverdo-kit-22974209655.html
Ivermectin for prophylaxis: ( according to protocol with Zinc, Quercetin and Vitamin D)
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Dosage Protocol: https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-I-MASK-Protocol-
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