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1 posted on 06/04/2021 4:46:39 PM PDT by MAGA2017
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Don’t change your mind too many times? Bombing mission, or fighter mission. Hmm. Let me think about that for a while.


2 posted on 06/04/2021 4:52:25 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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As many have said, “peacetime generals are always fighting the last war instead of the next one.”

Midway was a very unique battle. I’m not sure how much it can teach China aside from “make sure you break the enemy’’s encryption”.


3 posted on 06/04/2021 4:53:45 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("I see you did something -- why you so racist?")
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They learned that spreading the rot from within an enemy country is much easier than a pitched battle.


4 posted on 06/04/2021 4:53:55 PM PDT by dynachrome ("I will not be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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In the age of missles and electronics, are navy warships little more than floating coffins? Can defenses cope against overwhelming numbers let alone hypersonics? The old plan to fight the last war syndrom. Or am I foolishly mistaken?


5 posted on 06/04/2021 4:54:44 PM PDT by buckalfa (I have forgotten more than I ever knew.)
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The only people who read Business Insider are the mommies of the aborted feces who write for this trash neo-commie website.


7 posted on 06/04/2021 4:58:21 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Federal courts no longer have any standing in America. )
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A W-88 to your shipyard would effect your productivity.


8 posted on 06/04/2021 4:58:45 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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I think China’s ultimate goal is to “get even” with Japan.


10 posted on 06/04/2021 5:01:43 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p8Aq5BM9io

MAGA

ORANGEMANBADDAZZ

CCP IS AZZHOLE


11 posted on 06/04/2021 5:06:04 PM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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The Japanese did put out a good scouting line to detect the carriers sailing from Pearl Harbor. And their arrival was based upon the Japanese not expecting the US fleet to depart Pearl Harbor until AFTER their initial strike on Midway.

Unfortunately the subs arrival at their scouting line was after the US fleet had already sailed to “Point Luck” and was “behind” the scouting line.

And that was due to the code breaking at Pearl, thus permitting the US Navy “to get inside the Japanese decision cycle.”


12 posted on 06/04/2021 5:08:41 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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The Chinese simply need to stand, watch and laugh as the US self-destructs


16 posted on 06/04/2021 5:29:14 PM PDT by wny ( )
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The shortest explanation is the US kept all their abilities hidden from the Japanese and the Japanese followed their doctrine even as the doctrine started working against them.

US struggled initially but we denied them their full capabilities by harassing their fleet with constant attacks. They didn’t have the time to arrange their forces they had nor the forces needed to keep on the offense.


18 posted on 06/04/2021 5:35:29 PM PDT by Bogey78O
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Various US bomber and fighter groups harried the Japanese protective fighter cover over their carriers for several hours. Finally, the Japanese fighters had to be recovered while the Japanese staff debated over which bombs to arm their craft for their second strike. That’s when the US Navy dive bombers found and hit them: with scant opposition in the air and enemy carriers full of fueling aircraft laden with bombs on their top and middle decks. Three carriers were wrecked in a matter of minutes.


22 posted on 06/04/2021 5:42:44 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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The Democrat and Republican leadership costs far less than one carrier.

China buys politicians.


28 posted on 06/04/2021 5:58:46 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Trump is the last legally elected U.S. President.)
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Have better intelligence gathering capabilities?


31 posted on 06/04/2021 6:09:06 PM PDT by ealgeone
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Never take on the world’s biggest industrial power (at the time). Might be a lesson for US to consider.


32 posted on 06/04/2021 6:09:43 PM PDT by ealgeone
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China is prime for a revolution from within.

They showed their hand in Hong Kong.


34 posted on 06/04/2021 6:11:41 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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I am not sure what lessons can be learned from Midway. There were elements of being over arrogant, certainly. The results of that battle, I think most historians would agree, was due far more to luck and sheer courage and definitely having Providence on your side, rather than any particular guidance that can be taught.


35 posted on 06/04/2021 6:21:20 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them)
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The chicoms wouldn't stand a chance against our newly developed super weapons...

The U.S. can field three powerful fleets & their crews who have been outfitted with, and highly trained in, the latest techniques of caring, diversity, climate-preserving technologies, and wokeness...

When the chinks see those attacking planes and rockets with their emblazoned LGBT and BLM flags flying over dropping rose petals, they will immediately surrender...

We will kick pat those commie asses...

43 posted on 06/04/2021 7:36:01 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another Sam Adams now that we desperately need him?)
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At the Naval War college many yeas ago I witnessed a computer simulation of the battle of Midway. The tech said no matter how different you start to play the simulation and if you use the same order of battle as in the real battle of midway, then the IJN always seems to win. He said you can’t program luck.


50 posted on 06/05/2021 4:47:02 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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