Posted on 06/04/2021 3:34:15 PM PDT by algore
The FBI has asked USA Today for the IP addresses and phone numbers of everyone who read one of its articles during a 35-minute period in February as part of an ongoing child porn probe, in what the publisher is calling a violation of the First Amendment.
On February 2, FBI agents Daniel Alfin and Laura Schwartzenberger were killed and three others were wounded when 55-year-old David Huber started shooting as they approached his apartment in Fort Lauderdale shortly after 6am.
USA Today was among the many news outfits that covered the story on February 2. It published the story at 9.29 that morning - three-and-a-half hours after it happened.
USA Today is fighting back, saying the order violates the First Amendment.
'A government demand for records that would identify specific individuals who read specific expressive materials, like the Subpoena at issue here, invades the First Amendment rights of both publisher and reader, and must be quashed accordingly,' lawyers for Gannett, the company that owns USA Today, said.
They added said the subpoena's vague reference to 'a federal criminal investigation' cannot 'possibly justify such an abridgment of free speech.'
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
I believe I read that original article. All the pictures are very similar.
Every “Device” has a unique identification number from the manufacturer that can be traced to the initial sale and purchase through the info the net carrier, servers, and domains have collected.
If it is not a burn phone without any accounts set up, and if you have a contract or a warranty they have your name, address, email address, and bank account number.
It won’t be just IP address info they will get and take... Because much more is being collected than anyone realizes.
Or shhhhhhh.
I cannot say I would cheer for either side of this incident.
If fact for me, the best case scenario is everyone on both sides ends up dead.
FBI are government criminal thugs. Dont make an argument some are good, none are doing what needs to be done to fix the place. It basically requires atual arests and perp walks of all the corrupt agents and admin folks they know of, right now,no waiting.
Until that hapens and we have thousands of arrests by agents who want that place to actually have a good reputation again, dont talk to me about good fbi people.
“Two fewer FIB agents and I could care less.”
I may be 90 years old, but I hope I never meet you, sir. You truly must be in league with Satin himself to think or say such a thing.
We are all likely already on a list. They just haven’t acted on it... yet.
So you would just believe any old excuse they tell you.
Okay you are incredibly gullible.
You do know law enforcement can lie to you while trying to get information from you, yes?
Yup, warrant. If its so dam important they have the power via a warrant. And couts are able to expedite based on their asking for fast turnaround. Some judges are on duty primarily to be able to grant warrants.
Tell that to the infants that the FBI burned alive at Mt. Carmel[Waco] Jack boot licker.
Hmm Thanks.
So sites don’t or cannot collect IP addresses of visitors?
Happened down in south Florida. The local media, always anxious to exploit mayhem if it’ll hurt a conservative or Republican, has NO CURIOUSITY about this case. Made the news for a day or two, then dropped off the radar.
Tells me something is being hidden.
You are free to support federal thugs ignoring our Constitution all you want. I choose not to. Frankly, ‘Satin’ is in league with our government right now.
I bet USA Today did cooperate for those at the peaceful protest on Jan 6 and only targeted conservatives.
Post of the Month.
It's been a while but HTTP headers do not contain such information as a MAC address. USA today will not know anything like that. OTOH if they want to they can fingerprint your browser: http://www.chrismitchell.net/Papers/tltlcw.pdf There's more than just passive fingerprinting but that's good enough in many cases. If they want more they can run some javascript or other scripting.
When I told that freeper he posted a "you're crazy" gif. I guess some people think it is amusing and harmless, but it's not harmless.
Any and all advertisers on the site can collect IP addresses. There's more tracking than just IP, some requiring cookies can be turned off. Other stuff cannot be turned off. See fingerprinting link above.
3.5 hours after the raid and murder of two agents, USA Today publishes a story about it. I don’t think they are trying to catch child porn fiends or someone who tipped off the killer. The FBI demand makes sense (only?) if details in the story had to have been leaked by an insider — either FBI or other first responder.
Perhaps the FBI has a list of all those who could know these details, and have interviewed them. In that process, perhaps all denied reading the USA Today story. So the FBI seeks to find a match from their suspect list among those who read the story. Any match who had denied reading the story would be in a “lying to the FBI” trap. The FBI would use that to arrest and hammer the leaker into a plea, and force them to divulge what else they might have been leaking. Just a theory...
This has a Hunter Biden or someone of similar privilege, cleaning crew stench all around it.
If the story were about the January 6 event, USA today would have asked the FBI agent, how else can we help you sir?
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