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Amid worries about China's growing navy, the US Navy is only asking for 4 new combat ships next year
https://www.yahoo.com ^ | May 28, 2021, | Ryan Pickrell

Posted on 05/29/2021 11:39:37 AM PDT by RomanSoldier19

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To: hinckley buzzard

China... Even Russia is now catching up. They have carriers coming as well.


21 posted on 05/29/2021 12:31:25 PM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

There are 40 frigates in the pipe. Just not next year. There are 5 more Ford class carries in the pipe, just not next year.

The article is somewhat misleading


22 posted on 05/29/2021 12:37:56 PM PDT by Fai Mao (It is time, past time and almost too late.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

4 ships for the fleet, 4 for the admirals to party on. They just cannot think of any multi-billion dollar boondoggle toys to waste money on - they’ve done all of that with the Ford, the DDG-1000, and the LCS classes. So its on to party boats one for each of the currently navy recognized sexes.


23 posted on 05/29/2021 12:38:56 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Jonty30

>>When you’re going to have $10 trillion dollar deficits, there isn’t the money to build new ships.<<

That was my thought as well.
https://www.usdebtclock.org/


24 posted on 05/29/2021 12:42:00 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: hinckley buzzard

Hi.

According to some Navy sources, the type 092 submarines are very noisy. From the propeller cavitation to the water pumps on the reactor.

Other noisy stuff is opening the torpedo tubes..

I really don’t know, and all the sonar data is classified.

5.56mm


25 posted on 05/29/2021 1:03:16 PM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho need to go.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Fewer warships? Phooey, who cares. The US is not going to war with China anytime soon. And why should the US taxpayer finance policing the world?
How about investing more in manufacturing and bringing jobs here and not being so dependent on China. All these fancy military doo-das that billions are spent on are a waste of money if our middle class is being hollowed out.


26 posted on 05/29/2021 1:16:39 PM PDT by anthropocene_x
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Top Special Forces Official Urges US Deployment For Taiwan To Resist “Chinese Invasion”
27 posted on 05/29/2021 1:22:29 PM PDT by blam
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China Warns Australia’s Military Is “Weak”, Will Be “First Hit” In Any War With Western Alliance
28 posted on 05/29/2021 1:23:44 PM PDT by blam
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To: allendale

Targeting isn’t as easy as you believe it is. A ‘hypersonic ballistic missile’ can’t differentiate between a Cruiser and a Japanese car carrier half a NM away.


29 posted on 05/29/2021 2:45:14 PM PDT by GreyHoundSailor
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To: hinckley buzzard

Actually surface ships die quickly when confronted by a sophisticated enemy ours and theirs alike. If you are technologically advanced and can see it from space in real time, you can kill it. Surface ships are hell on earth against an unsophisticated enemy and have their place.

What we really need is many more hunter killer subs with cruise missiles that can be nuclear or conventionally armed. The cruise missiles gives them a 1000 mile radius kill zone against land targets. Their hunter killer capability takes out surface ships.


30 posted on 05/29/2021 2:57:01 PM PDT by cpdiii (Texan Coonass Cane Cutter Deckhand Roughneck Geologist Pilot Phamacist & much more education)
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To: carriage_hill

Yep, under Reagan we got very close to that stated goal. Then Bush I saw a decline and then Bubba Clinton basically sold off everything to the Chinese.


31 posted on 05/29/2021 4:03:34 PM PDT by Obadiah
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To: carriage_hill

Didn’t we once have a 600 ship (or close to it) navy?


Trump wanted a 400 ship Navy. I hope the woke admirals enjoy their Democrat budgets. They’ve earned them.


32 posted on 05/29/2021 4:05:22 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Brilliant

I can hear him crying for Xi to call off the attacks because we’re on the same side now.


33 posted on 05/29/2021 4:46:21 PM PDT by griswold3 (NBA/ Plumlee Ball. = poor entertainment value while insulting the audience gets you broke )
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To: hinckley buzzard

The best bet would be for a patriotic billionaire to create a huge fleet of small, modular boats, each of which can carry a single weapons platform. Like a boat version of the military hummer. But not designed for support, but for attack.

As unassembled modular shells, an ordinary cargo ship might carry 50 of them to an unassuming forward area, where they could be quickly assembled, fueled and armed when it looked like hostilities were forthcoming.

After the highly successful PT Boats of WWII, the class was renamed Fast Attack Craft (FAC). But the US Navy could not help itself but to lard them up with weapons, equipment, and expense, which goes against the concept.

North Korea has some 300+ FACs. Iran has many as well.

But the idea of an unexpected private reserve fleet of them suddenly appearing on the battles flanks would upset enemy planners who had not and maybe cannot calculate their effect.


34 posted on 05/29/2021 6:17:20 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Poor kids are just as bright, just as talented, as white kids." - Joe Biden Aug 8, 2019)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Of course there is the problem of finding enough diversity hires to command them.

Bigger problem finding shipyards to build them. The U.S. has two shipyards building destroyers, two building subs, one building carriers, one building large amphibious ships.

35 posted on 05/29/2021 6:37:22 PM PDT by Lower Deck
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