Springfield Police Body Camera Footage in Incident with Dartavius Barnes - Part 1
Posted on 05/23/2021 2:57:41 AM PDT by nickcarraway
Police in Illinois allegedly mistook the ashes of a grieving dad’s 2-year-old daughter for drugs, according to reports.
“No, no, no, bro, that’s my daughter!” said Dartavius Barnes on video from a Springfield police bodycam, obtained by WICS, the Springfield ABC affiliate. Barnes was pulled over last year, and is now suing the Springfield police department and the Illinois city.
Police, who were searching Barnes’ vehicle for drugs, opened a cylinder containing the child’s ashes and scattered them on the ground during the search, court records say.
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>>Police, who were searching Barnes’ vehicle for drugs, opened a cylinder containing the child’s ashes and scattered them on the ground during the search, court records say.
Seems unlikely. If the cops thought they were drugs, they would have wanted to preserve evidence.
Why did they scatter them?
Maybe looking for a bag underneath the ashes??
This is a bad story but I have a question. What makes scattering ashes more dignified than riding around in a ziplock in a Buick bomb, or burying a body in the backyard along with the dog or a parakeet?
We’re interring my aunts ashes ithis summer. She’s been dead for 15 years. The urn was floating around in a closet after a hurricane. People in this family have deceased loved ones in urns in closets all up and down the east coast They’re Catholic. They eject the tenets of the Catholic Church but they can’t bring themselves to dump the ashes on the beach where they sit on sundays.
Just buy a niche or a cemetery plot. And in my family that means the guy that is going to be buried accepts the inevitable and does this before he goes. And they have gainful employment when they get married and then have a family. If you can’t afford a cemetery ploy for your family then why have a family?
I don’t get it.
The mother had custody, child died through maternal neglect.
He may have been fighting her for custody, something that can take enormous amounts of money. He simply may not have *had* money after the custody fight.
Hint: Until recently, almost all family courts defaulted to awarding custody to the mother. Many, if not a supermajority, still do, and to get them to change their minds is a multi-year and multi-thousand dollar, nervewracking fight.
I wonder if Dartavius was trying to set-up the police. Why carry around a bag of ashes in your car that looks exactly like a bag of drugs? Maybe a big cash payout was the motive. I’m a little cynical here.
Something smells here.
The “ashes” left over from cremation are nothing like ashes as portrayed in the movies because there is no actual ash.
What is left over from cremation looks like dirty ground up bone. I know because my wife was cremated and I have her ashes here at home.
The cops may not have known what they were looking at, but doesn’t excuse not finding out.
Why the guy kept the remains in a plastic bag instead of something better is beyond curious.
I don’t think the lawsuit is going anywhere unless this man can prove that the police lacked probable cause for searching his vehicle. It’s like I was telling my daughter yesterday. You’re free to make eccentric decisions. You’re not free to complain when the rest of the world doesn’t come up with picture-perfect reactions to your eccentric decisions—especially on short notice. The choice of acting like a weirdo includes the choice of being treated like one.
A few weeks ago I found ashes in a ziplock lying at the base of a tree in Greenwood cemetery in Brooklyn. There was a card inside with the deceaseds name and address. Man, I’ve heard of babies being left on porches but a dead guy being left at a cemetery cracked me up.
I have some of Dad’s Ashes in the closet here, the rest were scattered around a flowerbed at the Church per Mom’s instructions with permission from the Elders and Minister in a Private Family moment.
I’ve been carrying the rest of them around with Me every time I move. I’m the youngest so I’m supposed to be the Keeper of the Ashes. Right now Mom’s Ashes are in My Sisters custody until They get handed off to Me.
Not sure what the rest of the Family is planning to do.
I have Dad’s Ashes in the Crematorium Container That is a ziplock bag inside a plastic box about 8”h x 5”w x 4”d that has is labeled “This contains the Ashes of Alan H. Gr*****.” With the Name and Address of the Crematorium on the Label.
Your description is correct plus a few small pieces of Bone.
My wife’s ashes are in the same type of bag/box thing. I’ll keep them until I pass on. Once I’m cremated I’ve told our boys to take both our ashes to the beach to scatter. We spent our honeymoon at the beach and it just seems right.
Hopefully if these were bad cops they snorted a lines... lol
The man seemed genuinely upset.
Cops aren’t the brightest bulbs.
Nor would you.
Why pay for an urn only to scatter the ashes to the four winds?
Any cop on the job for over a day knows what street drugs look like. They do not look like cremated remains. They were hassling him.
Driving around with those ashes is beyond weird but his car might be more permanent than his house.
My stepson died in Costa Rica and was cremated there. We had the ashes shipped up from there. We spent at least an hour getting the ashes cleared through customs. It took two or three guys reading through the paperwork to finally get his ashes released.
Since he died overseas, we had to deal with the State Department to get documents like death certificates, etc. ‘Red tape’ is literally real as the paperwork was fastened together with what looked like thin red ribbon.
Why the guy kept the remains in a plastic bag instead of something better is beyond curious.
They weren’t in a plastic bag directly. They were in a small metal cylinder (an urn) which was inside a plastic bag.
Exactly the way my mother was, though her plastic bag/urn combination was inside a cardboard box when they handed to me.
Why the guy kept the remains in a plastic bag instead of something better is beyond curious.
They weren’t in a plastic bag directly. They were in a small metal cylinder (an urn) which was inside a plastic bag.
Exactly the way my mother was, though her plastic bag/urn combination was inside a cardboard box when they handed to me.
And my mother looked pretty ‘ashy’ when I looked at her cremains.
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