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To: nickcarraway

Let’s see. Oregon would lose an electoral vote or 2. I don’t think it’s doable. What does the constitution say?


2 posted on 05/19/2021 7:18:03 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (`)
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3 posted on 05/19/2021 7:21:54 PM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: DIRTYSECRET

I believe if both states are agreed it can be done.


6 posted on 05/19/2021 7:24:52 PM PDT by Az Joe (FREE CHAUVIN!)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

There’s no reasonable reason for Oregon to hold these counties hostage. Better to part amicably than wait for things to get ugly.


7 posted on 05/19/2021 7:30:03 PM PDT by MercyFlush (Senator Joseph McCarthy was right. )
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To: DIRTYSECRET
sitting in a hotel room right now in Rexford Idaho.....thinking what a nice, quiet, clean little town.....earlier today we were in Yellowstone and sat with probably 1000 other people, talking quietly, laughing, patiently waiting for Old Faithful to blow....

people and places can be good...can be socialized....its possible....

its time to move away from the ugly culture that is the leftist slime...

17 posted on 05/19/2021 8:04:22 PM PDT by cherry (we are the dominionated)
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To: DIRTYSECRET
What does the constitution say?

"The Constitution grants general state-creation powers to Congress in Article IV, Section 3, under the Admissions Clause, which reads: “New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.”

27 posted on 05/19/2021 10:57:29 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters. )
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Any such change in the state’s boundaries would require ratification by the Oregon Legislature, which is controlled by Democrats.


32 posted on 05/20/2021 12:15:18 AM PDT by caww ( )
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To: DIRTYSECRET
What does the constitution say?

Article IV, Section 3: "New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress."

33 posted on 05/20/2021 3:59:30 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DIRTYSECRET; gundog; Az Joe; MercyFlush; cherry; TBP; caww; DoodleDawg
Thank a 1964 Scotus decision, Reynolds v. Sims, for big city domination of state legislatures.

Until Reynolds, states often apportioned senatorial districts by counties. After Reynolds, One-Man-One-Vote became the bumper sticker standard for all state legislative houses. This little known decision is at least partly, if not largely, responsible for the growing fiscal emergencies in many states. Reynolds v. Sims is the judicially imposed, unconstitutional state level equivalent of the 17th Amendment, which democratized the US Senate.

Progressing the Constitution - One Man One Vote.

38 posted on 05/20/2021 4:57:29 AM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Gundog answered your objection well—almost no one lives in the eastern half of the 2nd and the continued Californicationing of Oregon would allow the state to retain the new 6th district in 2030.

Math doesn’t seem to be a strong point of anyone now days. Given that five counties have voted for something that two others already had voted for, I would say seven have voted this way. Oregon only has 36 counties, but most of the population is located in five (three of which involve Portland).


43 posted on 05/20/2021 10:20:29 AM PDT by Hieronymus
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To: DIRTYSECRET

What does the constitution say?


The Constitution says that both states must agree to it as well as Congress. Last time it happened was with the creation of West Virginia.

But that was a bit of a special case since the Legislature meeting in what is now WVA was recognized as the only legitimate legislature of VA—the rest of VA’s legislature having renounced membership in the Union.

Seriously doubt that Oregon’s legislature would agree to losing the eastern part of the state to Idaho.

Texas, according to the Treaty of Annexation can split into as many as five states without Congressional approval, but some say that that right/power ended when Texas was required to be readmitted to the Union after the Civil War.


50 posted on 05/20/2021 12:26:49 PM PDT by hanamizu
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