Posted on 05/18/2021 2:36:18 PM PDT by Kaslin
There’s a gin joint in Denver by the name of Bar Max, and the owner has been up and running for more than a month after the government shutdown orders were lifted. Getting out ahead of the curve, owner Marshall Smith has been requiring proof of vaccination to drink indoors at his establishment since he reopened. And now, after the confusing new guidelines issued by the CDC, he’s allowing customers to go maskless in the bar, though again, they have to prove they’ve been vaccinated. To hear both Mr. Smith and his customers sharing their stories with the local CBS News outlet, you’d be tempted to think that everyone is just as happy as a clam and life is back to normal. But are they actually just kidding themselves?
It’s been more than one month since Bar Max off Colfax Avenue in Denver has required proof of COVID-19 vaccination for patrons to go inside. Now, in accordance with state and CDC guidelines, people can also go in without a mask as long as they provide proof.“They can feel that relief and that enjoyment,” said Bar Max Owner, Marshall Smith. “When customers are here with everyone vaccinated, they don’t have to socially distance, they don’t have wear masks, they don’t have to worry about it. It’s still peace of mind and comfort.”
“Folks can actually talk to someone they don’t know, which might be exciting for some folks who have been holed up for a year and change,” he joked.
Yes, indeed. It certainly sounds like everyone is having a marvelous time and bellying up to the bar like it was December of 2019 again. So how is Marshall enforcing these new rules? There’s no mention of anyone using one of those new phone apps like New York’s Excelsior Pass, and the picture provided with the CBS story shows somebody holding a CDC card. So I assume that’s what some, if not all of the patrons are using.
Those would be the same CDC cards that are so ridiculously easy to forge that your average 8th grader could do it. And if you’re not clever enough to figure it out for yourself, you can buy one online for as little as 25 bucks. At least it sounds as if Mr. Smith isn’t as desperate as the bar owner in California who was busted for selling fake vaccination cards from behind the bar for twenty bucks.
I find myself wondering about the bouncer at the door, the bartender and the wait staff, or whoever it is that the owner has verifying the patrons’ vaccination status. Are they off-duty law enforcement officers or detectives? Granted, they all likely have significant experience in examining state-issued ID cards to ensure people are old enough to legally consume alcohol. But these CDC cards have only been around for a few months and not everyone even knows what they’re supposed to look like. If you’re put in that position and find yourself feeling unsure, are you going to turn away a paying (and potentially tipping) customer or err on the side of keeping the party rolling?
With all of that in mind, I will once again pose the question I mentioned above. Is this really a safe, secure environment where people can party like it’s 1999? Or are they just kidding themselves while they mingle among the second-class citizens of the unwashed masses who are sneaking in with fake immunity passports? In the end, it probably doesn’t matter all that much, because vaccinated people have only a tiny chance of contracting the virus and will likely not experience severe effects if they do. It’s the unvaccinated forgers who are taking the real risk. But if customers are being sold a fraudulent sense of safety, they should at least be aware of it.
Can’t wait for AIDS test proof.
Fine, I’ll drink at home. Much cheaper anyway.
An obvious liberal watering hole.
Vaccinated NY Yankees staff however still not allowed. Apparently they are still Covid superspreaders dontchyaknow.
I still don’t quite understand why those who’ve received the “vaccination” should fear being around those who haven’t. I mean, if it is truly a vaccine, then they’d be protected, right?
Hopefully about to go out of business.
Ah, but the vaccines don't work or else they are in love their power trip, or both.
Just like people breathe into a breathalyzer to test for alcohol, maybe there is a simple breathalyzer to test for COVID antibodies from the vaccine. Maybe dogs could sniff out a vaccinated person. The best would be sweet ladies who had the genetic capability of tasting a vaccinated person through a french kissing. That’s the ticket!
Absolutely don’t patronize whether you’re vaccinated or not. Let them sink.
They probably serve Kool-Aid.
I’ve been going maskless with my friends at the pub since last June
Hugging the ladies, backslapping with the guys and living life
A few have been vaccinated (not me) and zero of us got the covid
My job takes me into medical offices many of which take your temperature near instantly with a digital pointing to the forehead. That seems like a more reasonable approach. If you’re running high temperatures or a fever then sorry no entrance. Normal temps then enter in. Forget this Nazi crap having to show proof of vax.
Why would anyone even go there? Hopefully he’ll be out of business before he realizes how it happened.
It was so predictable that fake vaccination cards would pop up in the black market.
See Prohibition.
People will find a way to do what they want to do.
No vaccine is 100%. The Pfizer vaccine blocks 94% of asymptomatic COVID infections and 97% of symptomatic infections, making it one of the most effective vaccines we have, but there’s still a certain level of risk involved.
The smallpox vaccine is 95% effective. The pertussis (Whooping Cough) vaccine is about 80% effective. Two doses of MMR vaccine are 97% effective against measles and 88% effective against mumps.
If you were in a bar with 40 people, one of whom was infected with smallpox and everyone else vaccinated, statistically speaking, you could expect 1-2 others at that bar to become infected. Still a very effective vaccine, but it’s imperfect. If everyone at the bar is vaccinated, then even if one of them has smallpox, their viral load is likely so low that no effective transmission will take place.
Yep. Bad business decision.
absolutely
Got it. Thanks for the explanation.
Making, selling, and possessing them is a violation of Federal law against unauthorized use of a Federal agency’s seal: https://www.ic3.gov/Media/Y2021/PSA210330
Sure, some people will choose to lie and commit Federal crimes to avoid a private business’ requirements, but that’s the risk being taken. But hey, if sticking it to the bar owner is worth risking 5 years in prison (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1017), then by all means.
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