In the 1976 swine flu pandemic, we attempted to vaccinate 55 million Americans. There were 500 cases of Guianne Barre syndrome (ascending paralysis) and 25 deaths. The program was killed at 25 deaths.
Look it up if you think I'm lying.
Posted on 05/16/2021 3:36:19 PM PDT by BeauBo
(President Trump's Operation Warp Speed Update)
(A bigger uptick in first shots today - second day in a row - May be a noteworthy change)
Total Vaccine Doses Delivered: 344,503,395 (20,195,100 J&J)
Administered: 273,545,207 (9,654,031 J&J)
People Vaccinated, At Least One Dose: 157,485,596
Fully Vaccinated: 123,282,685
(Excerpt) Read more at covid.cdc.gov ...
In the 1976 swine flu pandemic, we attempted to vaccinate 55 million Americans. There were 500 cases of Guianne Barre syndrome (ascending paralysis) and 25 deaths. The program was killed at 25 deaths.
Look it up if you think I'm lying.
The “temporal association” is merely that one event happened after the other.
Only If one instead compares the “adverse events” that happen after a black cat crosses their path with what “adverse effects” happen after a black doesn’t cross their path then one has some possibly useful information about the effect of black cats crossing one’s path.
Laws, laws.
You can sit around the table after a hard day of being stupid on the internet and make up more weird stuff to post tomorrow.
A match made in heaven.
Discuss.
The only thing I know is I had the Wuhan symptoms in early Jan 2020. The problem is that the normal antibodies would have faded by now. There are other more sensitive tests but I can't get one of those. The other problem is Jan 2020 was "too early" to get it. So I am assuming I didn't have it unless it was that early flu/cold or later with no symptoms.
his whole covid 'endemic' is bogus
The 511,000 increase in deaths in 2020 over 2019 is partly the response which of course created more death. Not just the federal response which was bad enough but many states and localities. I can't ever forget the bus driver in Detroit who made a video after a female passenger coughed on him. He was fine in the video and dead a few days later. In those days we were required to "elbow bump" and cough into our sleeves
The "guidance" changed a few more times. Biden and Sanders never got the flu, but Rand Paul, Chuck Grassley, Ron Johnson, Mike Lee, Bill Cassidy, Thom Tillis, and Rick Scott all got it. There were treatments but most of them didn't need the treatments. The whole thing is hard to explain. But the federal mortality numbers are backed up by state numbers including red states.
There are more heart attacks, the Post just did a story on one of their editors who died of "an apparent heart attack" at 47. They didn't mention in the story whether he had the shot or not. But the numbers won't be hideable in 2022. There will either be more heart attacks in 2021 or there won't. If two million people get the shot every day, then there will be 13 heart attacks (800,000 / 365 / 330,000,000 * 2,000,000). That's a guarantee.
But like I said before, the vaccine increases heart attacks along with every other type of death (some more than others, some like cancer, very little). There will be quite a bit more than those 13 heart attacks every day from the 2 million people getting the shot. It is what it is and I will never sugar coat it.
Let's define "soon" as within a week of getting the final shot. There wlll be 0.008 / 365 * 125,000,000 * 7 expected deaths or 19,178 deaths but divide that by four since some people say only a quarter of the deaths are reported in VAERS. So there should be 4,794 deaths reported in VAERS.
For heart attacks there should be 800,000 / 330,000,000 / 365 * 2,000,000 shots or 13 day-of-vaccination heart attacks each day. Same number for strokes. For totals in VAERS using "soon" as 7 days, there should be 9298 heart attacks.
Personally I would only define "soon" as day-of-vaccination for heart attacks and strokes. For totals there should be 270,000,000 shots * 800,000 / 330,000,000 / 365 or 1793 heart attacks total in VAERS. But divide that by four for underreporting, so 448 in VAERS. There are 7806 cases with the word "heart" but some of those are history. There are 484 heart attacks. There are 621 coronary. There are 643 heart failure.
None of this surprises me in the least. Getting the shot is stressful at the very least, and probably harmful in some respects if even just to a small extent. It's certainly less safe than the flu shot. No sense in pretending otherwise. But a proper analysis would use all the heart attacks in VAERS dying the day of the shot and comparing that to the 448 day-of-shot estimate.
Ironically, you cite the reason why CDC itself makes the 6% distinction for having actually died 'of' SARS-CoV-2 infection...a figure which DESTROYS the tyrannical dragnet now being not only implemented by government, but promoted by hypocrites here at FR.
But common sense is not your forte'.
Here’s the info;
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0,42&q=500+cases+of+Guillain+Barre+syndrome+1976
I keep seeing this “6%” figure, and it’s used constantly by people who don’t understand how a US Certificate of Death is filled out.
The 6% isn’t what you think it is. If COVID-19 is listed as the Underlying Cause of Death in Section 32 Part I of the US Standard Certificate of Death, then COVID-19 initiated the chain of morbid events leading directly to death, regardless of what other conditions might be present. Further, COVID-19 should never be the only condition listed in Section 32 Part I because COVID-19 is not an immediate cause of death. A natural progression is required for Part I. For example: hypoxemia (immediate cause of death) due to ARDS due to COVID-19. That is a complete chain of events. Add the onset intervals and you have a correctly completed Section 32 Part I.
The items in Part II contribute to the patient’s inability to survive, but are not part of the chain of events that led to that patient’s death. For example, a patient who has lived with COPD for the past 10 years. That patient contracts COVID-19 and dies. COPD doesn’t cause COVID-19 and COVID-19 didn’t cause the COPD. Having COPD limited that patient’s ability to survive the COVID-19 infection that killed them, so COPD goes in Part II. But COVID-19 is still the UCoD in Part I and it’s a COVID-19 death.
Every time the “6%” bit gets tossed around, it’s evidence that the person tossing it doesn’t understand any of this. There’s still about 600,000 US Standard Certificates of Death in the United States where COVID-19 is listed as the Underlying Cause of Death, and that’s the only line that matters for statistics tracking. There is only one underlying cause. There is only one immediate cause of death. There may be events in between. There may be many conditions contributing to death.
Here’s how silly that “only 6%” really is: consider a 58 year old patient with hemophilia. He’s lived with the condition for his entire life. One day he walks in on a robbery at a convenience store and is stabbed several times. Based on the extent of the injuries and the response time of medical personnel, it’s likely a patient without hemophilia would survive the injuries, but this man does not.
What you are suggesting with this “6%” stuff is that he didn’t die from being stabbed. Nonsense. He absolutely died from being stabbed. He was just fine for 58 years, then he got stabbed, then he died. It’s ridiculous to assert that anything other than stabbing should be listed as his cause of death. But that’s exactly what you’re suggesting when you say “only 6%” died from only COVID-19. “Only 6%” died from being stabbed because 94% had hemophilia or hypertension or diabetes or heart disease? No, they died because they got stabbed. They lived for years or decades with those other conditions.
People only report that which they believe is vaccine-related, and per studies done at Harvard and Stanford, it is believed that only 1% to 10% of such events are reported.
Meanwhile there were more VAERS deaths reported in the first four months of this year, after the Covid vaxxes than for all the vaxxes administered in the last 20 years combined.
Why are you so battling against the obvious?
In what way does this have anything to do with the “6%” nonsense?
Are you shifting to a different topic on purpose? Are we done discussing the “6%” thing? I’m okay with that if you understand now why the 6% thing is silly.
That is incorrect. Healthcare providers are required - by law - to report ANY serious adverse event (including death) "regardless of causality". So if you get a COVID-19 vaccine and somebody shoots you on your way out of the clinic, that gets reported to VAERS. By law.
Doctors have been reporting that they have been turned down from VAERS when trying to report legit Covid vax-related events, so the system is being actively rigged now.
Also, what you are claiming is simply incorrect:
“The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act (NCVIA) requires healthcare providers to report:
Any adverse event listed by the vaccine manufacturer as a contraindication to further doses of the vaccine; or
Any adverse event listed in the pdf icon VAERS Table of Reportable Events Following Vaccination [PDF - 75KB] that occurs within the specified time period after vaccination.
In addition, CDC encourages you to report any clinically significant adverse event that occurs in a patient following a vaccination, even if you are unsure whether a vaccine caused the event.”
https://vaers.hhs.gov/resources/infoproviders.html
Quite obviously standards have changed. Before this vaccination campaign we had 1 to 10% reporting according those studies, then. Now everyone gets a sheet of paper saying something like this
Report vaccine side effects to FDA/CDC Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS). The VAERS toll-free number is 1-800-822-7967 or report online to https://vaers.hhs.gov/reportevent.html. Please include “Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine EUA” in the first line of box #18 of the report form.
They had handouts for prior vaccines too, but nobody read them. Now people are reading them and reporting all kinds things. Read through VAERS and you will see a variety of reports from serious vaccine-related effects to minor side effects to unrelated issues, where they say it is unrelated but feel obligated to report it.
Which doctors? VAERS is a passive system. I can go in right now and put in a report for a sore thumb after getting a vaccination. VAERS doesn’t reject anything. It lacks the means to reject anything. You either mail in a printed form or you use the online portal to submit your report. Events may be reported here: https://vaers.hhs.gov/reportevent.html
Just admit, you were wrong. Dr Richard Fleming, a prominent cardiologist reported the VAERS rejections and Del Bigtree, who was interviewing him, said he had reports from doctors saying VAERS was straight out kicking back/rejecting their reports.
VAERS Reporting Requirements for COVID-19 Vaccines
I highlighted the most relevant bits for you. Fact is: healthcare providers are required - by law - to report any life-threatening event or death after a COVID-19 vaccine is given "regardless of causality". So if you get hit by a car leaving the clinic, they're required - by law - to report that in VAERS.
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