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COVID-19 Vaccinations in the United States (16 May, as of 06:00 AM ET)
CDC ^ | 16 May 2021 | CDC

Posted on 05/16/2021 3:36:19 PM PDT by BeauBo

(President Trump's Operation Warp Speed Update)

(A bigger uptick in first shots today - second day in a row - May be a noteworthy change)

Total Vaccine Doses Delivered: 344,503,395 (20,195,100 J&J)

Administered: 273,545,207 (9,654,031 J&J)

People Vaccinated, At Least One Dose: 157,485,596

Fully Vaccinated: 123,282,685

(Excerpt) Read more at covid.cdc.gov ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: covid19; dontfeedbagtroll; jj; moderna; pfizer; trumpvaccine; warpspeed
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To: dynoman

Go to the VAERS website and see for yourself.

The correct answer is no.

Doesn’t mean reports are not valid, nor that the information does not warrant monitoring or follow up.

Just means your interpretation of the data in general is likely flawed, as many others have attempted to explain.


341 posted on 05/17/2021 7:54:18 PM PDT by !1776!
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To: semimojo

“With no tracking of medical events in an unvaccinated population to compare with these VAERS reports are useless for determining the safety of the vaccines”

VAERS, by definition and purpose, is not intended for tracking medical events in the unvaccinated population. VAERS is specifically for tracking VACCINE adverse events ONLY. They make that very, very, clear.

CDC tracks medical events in the unvaccinated population elsewhere.

I can’t believe I have to explain this to you when it’s so clear, obvious, and logical.


342 posted on 05/17/2021 7:56:55 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: mrsmith

Good luck. I was hoping my antibody test came back positive since that would have meant I had antibodies, immunity, etc., but came back negative...

First time I was disappointed in a good result... 😀


343 posted on 05/17/2021 7:57:15 PM PDT by !1776!
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To: dynoman

“following vaccination” is exactly the same as “after a black cat crossed my path”.

To a reasonably intelligent person no causality is evident.

“following vaccination” shows no more causality than “after sunrise”.
(Though “after sunrise” at least has metaphorical content.)


344 posted on 05/17/2021 7:58:08 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: !1776!

I have.

Why do 99% of the reports list the vaccine manufacturer?

Because it’s the VACCINE Adverse Event Reporting System.

There’s no other logical way to interpret that.


345 posted on 05/17/2021 8:01:26 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman
VAERS, by definition and purpose, is not intended for tracking medical events in the unvaccinated population. VAERS is specifically for tracking VACCINE adverse events ONLY. They make that very, very, clear.

I know.

CDC tracks medical events in the unvaccinated population elsewhere.

Where? From the start I've been saying show me those numbers.

Only by comparing the VAERS numbers with the rate of events in the unvaccinated population will the VAERS reports be useful.

Are there more or fewer deaths/events per thousand in the vaccinated or unvaccinated population?

346 posted on 05/17/2021 8:02:11 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: mrsmith

No it’s not exactly the same. That a very bad analogy.

Some of the reports by reasonably intelligent people who are far more honest than you state; “a causal relationship cannot be excluded”.

“Based on the current available information and temporal association between the use of the product and the onset of the pain, a causal relationship cannot be excluded.”
https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?IDNUMBER=1061911

“Considering temporal association and lacking of alternative explanation, a possible contributory role of BNT162B2 to all reported events cannot be completely excluded.”
https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?IDNUMBER=1100529IDNUMBER=1061911

“Based on the time association, the possible contribution of suspect BNT162B2 to the events cannot be excluded.”
https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?IDNUMBER=976871


347 posted on 05/17/2021 8:08:51 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: semimojo

https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Weekly-Counts-of-Deaths-by-State-and-Select-Causes/muzy-jte6


348 posted on 05/17/2021 8:14:05 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: semimojo
There wouldn't be one. My point is you need to monitor similar events in an unvaccinated population so you have something to compare to VAERS.

Doubling down on stupid, I see.

This really isn't complicated.

Apparently it is to you. But there's still hope. All you gotta do is post a link off the VAERS site that lists adverse events of people that DIDN'T get the vax. That should be easy someone as clever a boy as you.

I'll wait.


349 posted on 05/17/2021 8:16:59 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: semimojo
Not to be snarky but is English your native language?

That's rich coming from a guy displaying his ignorance so lavishly in real time.

Do you understand that an event following a vaccination is not necessarily an event resulting from a vaccination?

Yea, but that wasn't the argument. You tried to say that ALL adverse events get reported to VAERS, whether someone took the fax or not. Now you're trying to change the subject out of embarrassment.


350 posted on 05/17/2021 8:20:03 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: dynoman
So how do those events compare with the VAERS data for similar populations?

You're saying VAERS indicates there's a problem vs. unvaccinated people. Show me why you think so.

351 posted on 05/17/2021 8:20:17 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: dynoman

The “temporal association” is merely that one event happened after the other.

Only If one instead compares the “adverse events” that happen after a black cat crosses their path with what “adverse effects” happen after a black doesn’t cross their path then one has some possibly useful information about the effect of black cats crossing one’s path.

As has been repeatedly pointed out to you- to no response.


352 posted on 05/17/2021 8:20:39 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: semimojo
Unsurprisingly, you don't seem to understand how Team Rationality operates. One riot, one Ranger.

Sheep cannot be Rangers. They can only be sheep.

Sheep do what they're told and follow the herd.


353 posted on 05/17/2021 8:21:55 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: bagster
All you gotta do is post a link off the VAERS site that lists adverse events of people that DIDN'T get the vax.

I see you haven't been paying attention. That's what I've been asking for from the start.

If you don't know what's happening in the unvaccinated population you don't know if the number of events in the vaccinated population is abnormal.

354 posted on 05/17/2021 8:22:59 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: dynoman
Have you ever had to argue with somebody so immune to actual thought before? He just says a stupid thing and, rather than admit he misspoke, keeps doubling down.

I guess he expects you to just accept his insanity and move along, which is never a good idea. If you do that, he will be emboldened to keep saying stupid stuff all over the place.


355 posted on 05/17/2021 8:24:42 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: palmer; mrsmith
If you have to have a test to tell you if you were sick in the past, then I just don't know what to tell ya.

Seems to me you'd know it.

Unless of course, this whole covid 'endemic' is bogus, including the fake vax.


356 posted on 05/17/2021 8:27:08 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: bagster
You tried to say that ALL adverse events get reported to VAERS, whether someone took the fax or not.

No I didn't.

I said CDC wants all adverse events in vaccinated people to be recorded whether they were the result of the vaccine or not.

And I provided the quote from the CDC website saying exactly that.

357 posted on 05/17/2021 8:27:14 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: mrsmith

“temporal association” isn’t the point, “a causal relationship cannot be excluded” is.

You need to learn to be more honest, it will help develop a logical thought process.


358 posted on 05/17/2021 8:28:38 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: mrsmith
Sure. Record all the “adverse events” after a black cat crosses your path. Proof!

And here I thought semi-retard would win the prize for saying the stupidest thing today.

I should never underestimate the power of Mrs. Mith.


359 posted on 05/17/2021 8:28:56 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: bagster

They don’t follow the herd with the right sheep dog.....like the ones I had.

.


360 posted on 05/17/2021 8:29:40 PM PDT by Mears (.)
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