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Trump-Biden Was Worst Presidential Polling Miss in 40 Years, Panel Says
The Wall Street Journal ^ | 13 May 2021 | Aaron Zitner

Posted on 05/13/2021 7:38:31 AM PDT by Theoria

Surveys overstated Democrats’ support up and down the ballot, as some voters were less inclined to participate in polls

Public opinion surveys ahead of the 2020 presidential election were the most inaccurate in 40 years, according to an expert panel convened by the main trade group for pollsters, which said its work hadn’t yet pointed to a way to correct the error. In the aggregate, the panel said, polls overstated supportfor Democratic nominee Joe Biden by 3.9 percentage points in the national popular vote in the final two weeks of the campaign. That was a larger error than the 1.3-point overstatement in 2016 surveysfor Hillary Clinton, who won the popular vote but lost in the Electoral College.

It was the most substantial error in polling since 1980, when surveys found it hard to measure the size of Ronald Reagan’s impending landslide and overstated support for President Jimmy Carter by 6 percentage points.

The 2020 polls overstated Democratic support “in every type of contest we looked at: the national popular vote, the state-level presidential vote as well as senatorial and gubernatorial elections,’’ said Joshua D. Clinton, a professor of political science at Vanderbilt University who led the review for the American Association for Public Opinion Research.

“This was true no matter how respondents were polled. It didn’t matter whether you’re doing online or telephone polls. A similar level of error was pervasive,’’ said Mr. Clinton.

(Excerpt) Read more at wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: biden; poll; polling; trump
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1 posted on 05/13/2021 7:38:31 AM PDT by Theoria
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2 posted on 05/13/2021 7:40:00 AM PDT by Theoria
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To: Theoria

I initially read “miss” in the headline as “mess.” That would also work.


3 posted on 05/13/2021 7:40:50 AM PDT by cdcdawg (It's all on .gum these days.)
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To: Theoria

Or was it?


4 posted on 05/13/2021 7:41:04 AM PDT by TheDon (Resist the usurpers)
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They just have to use the same Dominion software in polling, and the results can be made to match exactly.

5 posted on 05/13/2021 7:42:13 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: Theoria

They ALWAYS miss on the polling of populists, because many of their supporters won’t answer or answer accurately...because of the constant media attacks.

...and in this case, they had a second reason - they couldn’t show Trump doing well and then have to explain the ‘late surges’ (in just the right states) for Biden.


6 posted on 05/13/2021 7:42:28 AM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: Theoria

The polls were wrong, the massive enthusiastic crowds for one candidate while the other could barely fill a phone booth were wrong, wrong, wrong.

Yeah, THAT’S the ticket!


7 posted on 05/13/2021 7:42:51 AM PDT by null and void (When you put bad people in charge expect bad things to happen, often in a spectacular and sudden way)
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To: Theoria

What? Polling isn’t accurate when there’s massive cheating?


8 posted on 05/13/2021 7:43:22 AM PDT by jcon40 (The other post before yours really nails it for me. IOr keep people from / PC ing in ver and alway)
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To: Theoria

And it was much worse of a miss than they admit or know.


9 posted on 05/13/2021 7:44:22 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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Question — what is the purpose of polling?

Is the purpose of polling to do a scientifically accurate measure of opinion?

Or is the purpose of polling, to push a particular candidate, a particular point of view, and convince people that a certain candidate is very popular, and convince people that they should support that candidate who is supposedly so popular?

I recall all the major polls had Hillary well ahead for most of the 2016 campaign, and we saw what happened there.


10 posted on 05/13/2021 7:50:01 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: BitWielder1
They just have to use the same Dominion software in polling, and the results can be made to match exactly.

Dominion's real logo and motto

The terminally stupid and sadly humor impaired have insisted I post a disclaimer with this graphic.

DISCLAIMER:
Although this may be devastatingly accurate, it is not Dominion's real logo, nor is it Dominion's real slogan.

11 posted on 05/13/2021 7:50:02 AM PDT by null and void (When you put bad people in charge expect bad things to happen, often in a spectacular and sudden way)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

A recent poll showed Joe has a 63% approval rating. Anyone here believe that?

And a recent CNN poll showed an incredible 85% approval of Joe’s speech to Congress.

Then it was revealed that the CNN poll was heavily skewed towards Democrats, with far more Democrats being polled.

Rhetorical question might be, why did CNN publicize a poll which they knew was not a representative sample of the population???? Are they trying to push the narrative that Joe is hugely popular???


12 posted on 05/13/2021 7:53:27 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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>>Surveys overstated Democrats’ support up and down the ballot, as some voters were less inclined to participate in polls

They ALWAYS oversample Rats in ALL polls.

They also try to depress conservative turnout.... “You’re just gonna lose anyhow!”

And if a voter is less inclined to participate in a survey admitting to voting for Trump, could it be because their are militant black bloc Communists beating down people in the streets and gloating over their attacks on innocent people?


13 posted on 05/13/2021 7:56:22 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Lean on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity. L)
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To: jcon40

If they knew that Trump was going to have the most people ever, they would’ve had to bump up their ballot stuffing earlier than the end of election night.

Rats believe their own circle jerk media and figured it would be a cakewalk.


14 posted on 05/13/2021 7:58:03 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Lean on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity. L)
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To: Theoria
There was no miss because there was no polling.

There was theft and criminality that cowards will not address.

15 posted on 05/13/2021 7:59:08 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true !)
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Feature, not a bug

It’s always overstated for the Rat...on purpose


16 posted on 05/13/2021 8:00:44 AM PDT by Regulator (It's Fraud, Jim)
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Trump-Biden Was Worst Presidential Polling Voting Miss in 40 Years /fixed
17 posted on 05/13/2021 8:03:01 AM PDT by z3n
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18 posted on 05/13/2021 8:25:15 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: Theoria

Since the election was riddled with fraud, virtually NONE of the post-election polling/voting analysis is reliable. The data set is totally, utterly corrupted. Maybe FL and OH were reliable.


19 posted on 05/13/2021 9:26:55 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix) )
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To: BenLurkin

I wish the next Republican president would say,

“we reject conservatives being represented by the color RED...from this point on in my administration, we will be the color BLUE and democrats will be referred to as the color RED.”

I was hoping Trump would have done this...that would make the crazies even crazier.


20 posted on 05/13/2021 9:52:52 AM PDT by Cuttnhorse (Nothing dies harder than a lie that people want to believe)
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