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Birth Dearth About Values, Not Economics
Townhall.com ^ | May 12, 2021 | Star Parker

Posted on 05/12/2021 5:15:09 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: impimp
I know ... the cheaper, the better.

Far-away pollution, "Out of sight, out of mind".


41 posted on 05/12/2021 7:34:54 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Campion

Hey, you can feel that way if you like — doesn’t bother me one bit. But, honestly, if we cared so little for the US (and our culture) we’d have moved elsewhere. If children are right for you, have at it. If not, then don’t. I won’t judge, either way.

Honestly, my wife and I are necessary. We pay our full share of taxes (believe me) yet don’t draw from, or rely on, the system. We pay property and local taxes for school systems we don’t use. We pay state and federal taxes and receive no money back (no child tax credits, etc. — not even a refund). I could go on and on about what we DON’T use or need from the system, but folks never think of it from that angle.

My point? Everyone makes a contribution, in different ways.


42 posted on 05/12/2021 7:36:08 AM PDT by AnglePark
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To: SomeCallMeTim

Well, you’re proof positive that everyone doesn’t feel the same as my wife and I, and — honestly — that’s great. It’ll always be that way — everything waxes and wanes. We may go through a period with low birth rates, but at some point that’ll tick up again.

Everyone’s cut from a different cloth, and I couldn’t be happier for you for the life you’ve had. It sounds like you have a wonderful family.


43 posted on 05/12/2021 7:40:04 AM PDT by AnglePark
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To: AnglePark

Frankly, I was pretty surprised by this number. With all the home quarantines, I expected a mini baby boom?

I do think the trend is pretty strong in the other direction.

Funny thing... All I’ve ever wanted for my children was for THEM to be happy in their own lives. Whether or not they had children was never a big thing to me. One has, one hasn’t. Have no idea if he ever will. But, that’s cool with me.


44 posted on 05/12/2021 7:51:57 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: DuncanWaring

Nothing more disgusting than a Malthusian. Are you a Malthusian?


45 posted on 05/12/2021 8:01:06 AM PDT by impimp ( )
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To: Kaslin
This 'birth dearth' is weird, and in my mind anyway, somewhat unexpected. I really figured with the lockdowns, there would be a lot of babies made.
46 posted on 05/12/2021 8:02:57 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: kabar

Demography is destiny. If automation is the key to national strength then why has the global leader in automation, Japan, been falling in terms of global power for 40 years. Nothing is a better sign of civilizations strength than a population that is willing to have children.


47 posted on 05/12/2021 8:03:27 AM PDT by impimp ( )
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To: kabar

It just takes one generation to neglect to have children to enter a demographic death spiral.


48 posted on 05/12/2021 8:05:04 AM PDT by impimp ( )
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To: zeugma

Abortion and birth control.


49 posted on 05/12/2021 8:05:33 AM PDT by impimp ( )
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To: impimp

A follower of Thomas Malthus?

No.

What’s that got to do with your position that “I like cheap stuff, even if it’s cheap because the pollution where it’s made is unimaginably bad”?

Would you be opposed to import tariffs of an appropriate amount to counteract the cost savings of rampant pollution in the faraway land?


50 posted on 05/12/2021 8:06:36 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DoodleDawg
I am not aware of anything preventing parents from taking children out of public schools and enrolling them in religious schools that will teach them whatever values the parent wants. Their freedom to do so is complete and absolute.

IMO, school funding should follow the student. This would open up choices for many who otherwise don't have much of a choice in their children's education.

51 posted on 05/12/2021 8:06:42 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: Kaslin

Young people growing up today just are not thinking about marriage and family and children in their future.

Young girls today are told that they can be astronauts, and they can be anything a man can be. How many young girls and women today are absorbing any messages that motherhood and marriage are important life goals?

How many young men grow up thinking that they want to be married and become the best husband and fathers they can be?

How many young people of either sex, think of finding a good life partner to have a family with? And think of this on the same level as their plans for a career?


52 posted on 05/12/2021 8:09:48 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: SomeCallMeTim

“Frankly, I was pretty surprised by this number. With all the home quarantines, I expected a mini baby boom?”

I know a lot of folks were initially predicting a Covid boom, and I thought it would happen as well. Maybe people were being overly cautious, not knowing what would happen with the economy, and decided not to have children. If that’s the case it’s actually encouraging, in a way, to think the younger folks were taking that into consideration before diving in.

Younger folks are buying a lot of houses now — something they weren’t really doing before — so maybe we’ll have a post-Covid boom!


53 posted on 05/12/2021 8:10:21 AM PDT by AnglePark
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To: zeugma
IMO, school funding should follow the student. This would open up choices for many who otherwise don't have much of a choice in their children's education.

No thanks. Get government involved in subsidizing private schools and government then controls private schools.

54 posted on 05/12/2021 8:11:59 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Sacajaweau
I understand your concern. The problem is that with the public schools a parent has little to no control over content. We used a mixture of Christian schools (my wife still teaches at one) and home schooling (there were many opportunities for group lessons taught by like-minded individuals). It comes down to one key question: What values do you want to instill in your children. This limits ones options.
55 posted on 05/12/2021 8:22:45 AM PDT by RetiredScientist
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To: DuncanWaring

Pollution in far away lands? FYI nothing reduces pollution faster than having a GDP per capita in excess of 5000 dollars. I am having a problem understanding your perspective and your politics persuasion.

Why did you put quotes around the pollution stuff? Did I say that? Although it sounds like something I would say I have no recollection of saying it.


56 posted on 05/12/2021 8:34:06 AM PDT by impimp ( )
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To: DuncanWaring

I am not in theory opposed to import tariffs if they lower income tariffs. But why do you ask? And why do you phrase your question with pollution in it?


57 posted on 05/12/2021 8:40:40 AM PDT by impimp ( )
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To: impimp

“I am having a problem understanding your perspective and your politics persuasion.”


Probably because you don’t want to understand it.



FYI nothing reduces pollution faster than having a GDP per capita in excess of 5000 dollars.

China’s per-capita GDP is roughly $10,000. Why isn’t their pollution decreasing


To the best of my knowledge you never said the pollution quote; it is my summary of your accumulated writings.

And, by your own admission, you agree with that summary.


58 posted on 05/12/2021 8:45:39 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: impimp

I keep bringing up the pollution issue because one of the reasons cheap crap from China is so cheap is that their manufacturers have no pollution-control expenses.


59 posted on 05/12/2021 8:47:32 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DoodleDawg
No thanks. Get government involved in subsidizing private schools and government then controls private schools.

Yeah, there should be some way of cutting the strings for stuff like this though.

60 posted on 05/12/2021 9:00:50 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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