Posted on 05/11/2021 5:46:06 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
This is crazy. I stopped for gas just now having no idea what was happening. It’s out. People here told me they’d been to other stations and found the same. pic.twitter.com/7LDVdUXPo4
These systems are pretty much mandated for larger financial institutions. Probably should be for large companies providing critical infrastructure. If you have a main dealer new car loan at current, you have about a 1 in 5 chance of it being through the enormous company my friend works for, which has the full suite of requirements to prevent just this sort of thing from happening.
There would not be a way of manual override, not and keep more than 15-20% flow through the pipeline at best. See my comments above. The manual gear is restricted to a set of emergency cutoffs because humans *can’t* switch fast enough or monitor conditions well enough on their own.
Fear of being held personally financially responsible and/or going to jail usually gets these people to sit up and pay attention.
This way beyond Joe and the government.
“””this has been a time bomb waiting to go off for years and the government and private corporations did nothing to be prepared so that their systems would not get hacked. What did they do, well they went to the Cloud which is even worse. And what are they doing about it, sitting on their thumbs.
So we got what we deserve because of gross stupidity.”””
And I would add the same is true of our Election Systems in the USA. We have turned over the management of our vote counting to computers and have taken people and paper out of the process.
So as you said: “We get Biden because of gross stupidity”.
If they had competent IT/policies and had kept up to date or taken reasonable, commonplace security precautions, this would not have happened.
So at this point I’ll assume all their systems are “unplugged” from the internet. Lets also assume all their data and programs are encrypted and are basically useless.
If it’s true that their backups are old, or if partial, then this could become a nightmare. I doubt they even have procedures in place to allow humans to perform some of the process controls that their computer systems did.
It isn’t funny but it is always interesting to watch how quickly things can fall apart and how few notice it.
The hole in the supply chain just does not get filled unless people switch to some alternate source or product until the failure is over.
The most significant example of this I have seen was the failed evacuation of Houston post Katrina for the expected landfall of Rita. The pump for panic was primed after the devastation of Kartina. For hundreds of miles radiating away from Houston and for days and days the shelves were bare on every travel corridor. It was as if a plague of locusts had passed through.
With the trucks not able to roll if this persists it will be devastating soon. Let’s hope they get it fixed and that it stays fixed or that they come up with some effective expedient solution.
Whatever happens, the ransom should never be paid.
Tuck some fiber-optic lines in with the pipe.
It all goes to the same places.
Making people miserable is just a fun thing to do for Communists.
In the meantime, Colonial Pipe's website hacked as well as it's pipes:
Your welcome. Another term for air-gapped systems we used to use was ‘sneaker net’. Meaning: to get from one system to another your needed a pair of sneakers to walk the disk from the side of the room with the connected computer to the other side of the room with the stand alone computer.
You mean like the Biden admin?
Iranians thought it was ‘air-gapped’...
It happens when disruption and when it’s hyped by media - just like w/this viirus issue they stir up the people to create panic and panic buying, creating the lines etc etc.
But focus on this latest crisis while they slip through more bills, EO’s and the like to steal more tax payer monies for their purposes.
Nothing is coincidence, all happens because of reasons, and for reasons.
Where’s their nightly backup? Where’s the planned contingency for this?
I’m not sure I even believe the claim that this is ransomware. It sounds like a smokescreen. How can a pipeline be so vulnerable?
I’m a software expert, I’ve done countless designs & implementations of them - embedded systems, desktop apps, web/cloud apps, cars, planes, phones, etc. and with systems requiring functional safety it also includes security requirements - you’re not safe if you’re not secure.
THIS STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN. I’m not believing the narrative.
Biden said it was a private matter between colonial and the hackers.
Eh, you wouldn’t want to do it in the pipe itself or even necessarily on the exterior, but you could certainly run it along the right of way for sure. It’s not like fiberoptics are expensive either - and in many cases they used to run cabling or fiber along their pipelines to connect sensors and switching gear anyway. Unfortunately, a lot of that got dropped in favor of wireless connected devices.
:-)
“80% of modern pipeline flow would go away then. Computers and high tech are needed for safety and speed.”
Guess I don’t mean remove all of the computer stuff.
Wonder how that ransomeware got in there. Is it likely that the bad guys got hold of a password?
Yes, and that’s why they couldn’t be remotely attacked. Stuxnet was let loose on their internal airgapped network by an insider. They didn’t have adequate internal safeguards, though if you can get physical access, it’s basically over anyway.
I suspect an investigation will find that they simply had inadequate security against external penetration and they had no backups.
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