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Oh, So Now Herd Immunity Cannot Be Obtained?
Townhall.com ^ | 3 May A.D. 2021 | Matt Vespa

Posted on 05/03/2021 3:55:46 PM PDT by lightman

There are no more experts. They know nothing. So, don’t listen to them. Okay, maybe that’s not actually fair—but the real experts are being ignored by the liberal media for a simple reason: they want the COVID panic to continue. They want more deaths to occur. They want a spike. They want to keep the nation locked down. It’s partially out of spite. Blue states are still under Nazi-esque lockdown rules—and their cases are still bad. Not like last year, but Michigan is seeing a massive spike, whereas Texas who nixed their mask mandate over five weeks ago and reopened fully has seen no spikes—none. Florida has also been a state that has managed its COVID crisis better than the media gave it credit for, painting Gov. Ron DeSantis as the grim reaper. It turns out the entire media establishment ate it on that one—no shock. The good news is that even though Democratic states cannot manage COVID, there is no fourth wave. A spike in one state—Michigan, does not make a wave no matter what the CDC says. Even Dr. Anthony Fauci has said he doesn’t think there’s going to be a fourth wave. And alas, here is the circus. The CDC saying there’s “impending doom,” which was voiced around spring break to Fauci saying, ‘nah, that ain’t happening.’ The messaging on COVID protocols has been a mess; the ones with vaccines has been even worse. An MIT study pretty much gutted or cast immense doubt on the effectiveness and purpose of air filtration systems, indoor capacity caps, and even mask wearing. Folks think they’re protected wearing a mask. Nope. It’s an airborne virus. If you’re inside with someone exposed, that mask isn’t doing much, whether it be six or sixty feet apart. It’s all a mess, and now we have this garbage about not reaching herd immunity (via NYT):

Early in the pandemic, when vaccines for the coronavirus were still just a glimmer on the horizon, the term “herd immunity” came to signify the endgame: the point when enough Americans would be protected from the virus so we could be rid of the pathogen and reclaim our lives.

Now, more than half of adults in the United States have been inoculated with at least one dose of a vaccine. But daily vaccination rates are slipping, and there is widespread consensus among scientists and public health experts that the herd immunity threshold is not attainable — at least not in the foreseeable future, and perhaps not ever.

Instead, they are coming to the conclusion that rather than making a long-promised exit, the virus will most likely become a manageable threat that will continue to circulate in the United States for years to come, still causing hospitalizations and deaths but in much smaller numbers.

How much smaller is uncertain and depends in part on how much of the nation, and the world, becomes vaccinated and how the coronavirus evolves. It is already clear, however, that the virus is changing too quickly, new variants are spreading too easily and vaccination is proceeding too slowly for herd immunity to be within reach anytime soon.

We discussed this before, including medical doctors. Do you see what’s missing? There is a glaring omission: natural immunity. The coverage on COVID has become so bad that liberal data crunchers, like Nate Silver, are coming off as conservative on social media, as he’s taken a hatchet to some of the narratives being peddled out here. He recently said there were “a lot of bad takes” about how Florida handled COVID. Dr. Marty Makary of Johns Hopkins also weighed in, saying the article omits herd immunity. Others also noted that the Times doesn’t seem to know the difference between herd immunity and eradication.

Look, the vaccine is a choice. I got it. A ton of my friends have as well, but we also know that the messaging is terrible.

‘Get the vaccine but stay locked up’ is not going to get people to sign up. I can understand the hesitancy. Luckily, tens of millions are getting shots and ignoring the indirectly idiotic advice experts have doled out. They’re all bureaucrats and ALL bureaucrats have agendas, Fauci being the biggest of all. Almost every protocol they’ve come up with is either nonsensical or enforced and applied in ways that make no sense. The NCAA basketball tournament being a prime example. Players must wear masks and be socially distanced on the bench…but not while they’re playing on the court? This is a virus with a. 90+ percent survivability rate. Is it contagious? Sure—it’s why based on the data that Dr. Makary thinks that up to two-thirds of the US population might have already had the infection. Natural immunity is something that is never applied in these scenarios which is malpractice. The reinfection rate for those who already had COVID is also immensely low. The truth is we’re probably very close to herd immunity, but government doctors lie. And with the CDC being exposed for colluding with teachers’ unions to keep schools closed—do you still trust the experts? They’re political operatives that are no better than the ones who are on panels of guest host on networks like CNN or MSNBC.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: covid1984; herdimmunity; scamdemic
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To: Gene Eric

“But those are estimates. Hopefully time will tell. Ideally, your position will bear out in terms of vax efficacy and non-toxicity. But also important to distinguish the studies’ results from the apparent seasonal downturn.”
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The statistics in post 89 are from double blind trial results comparing the outcomes of vaccinated versus placebo trial participants. Both the placebo and the vaccinated groups were flowing TOGETHER through the identical times and seasons.


101 posted on 05/03/2021 10:32:42 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: grumpygresh

“What do the animal studies say? Ferrets, primates, rats?
What about long term studies?
Any experience, evidence on mRNA injections?”

It doesn’t matter. Experts said we can trust it. Pharmaceutical companies said we can trust it. Bill Gates, Dr. Fauci, and all kinds of Washington politicians said we can trust it. These people really care about us. Isn’t that enough?


102 posted on 05/04/2021 2:43:36 AM PDT by MNDude
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To: Reaganez

“If members of the retarded dumbass community would get vaxxed then we could achieve herd immunity.”

LOL, doing my best to deprive you of your desperately seeked herd immunity.


103 posted on 05/04/2021 2:46:14 AM PDT by MNDude
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To: lightman

Oh, So Now Herd Immunity Cannot Be Obtained?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The Teachers Unions have known this for a long time, which is why all the schools are staying closed for good.(sarc.)

The CDC will be in complete lock step with teachers unions who are now driving the entore immunization program.

Want freedom? Roll out the Ivermectin Protocol for Prophylaxis and cast off the lock down chains which bind our nation.


104 posted on 05/04/2021 3:39:16 AM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism:http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html) )
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To: BenLurkin

We have all been exposed early on way before the vax came on the scene just 3 months ago or so. I have th antibodies and have never been sick at all through out this whole deal Im sure many many others have too.


105 posted on 05/04/2021 4:25:06 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: MNDude

Trusting the government and the government media is insane. Why some people can’t see this is unfathomable.


106 posted on 05/04/2021 6:34:05 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Civil disobedience by jury nullification. )
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To: MNDude
LOL, doing my best to deprive you of your desperately seeked herd immunity.

I'm going to use this one first chance I get.

107 posted on 05/04/2021 9:00:06 AM PDT by scripter
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To: lightman

Oh they don’t care. They just want to dis vaccines


108 posted on 05/04/2021 11:23:04 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: afchief

You’ve obviously never participated in a drug study

This is boiler plate. You HAVE to report everything..... headaches, belly aches, restless legs etc etc

Quit being a fear monger


109 posted on 05/04/2021 11:30:51 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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