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WHY WIND AND SOLAR ENERGY ARE DOOMED TO FAILURE
Power Line ^ | APRIL 24, 2021 | JOHN HINDERA KER

Posted on 04/25/2021 8:01:06 AM PDT by george76

Wind and solar energy are both essentially obsolete technologies. There is a reason why only the very rich or the very adventurous sail across oceans: the wind is unreliable, and at best produces relatively little energy. Nevertheless, liberals have concocted fantasies whereby all of our electricity, or perhaps our entire economy, will be powered by those fickle sources.

There are a number of reasons why this will never happen, but a paper published last week by Center of the American Experiment argues that land use constraints are the most basic reason why wind and solar are inexorably destined to fail. The paper, titled Not In Our Backyard, is authored by internationally recognized energy expert Robert Bryce, producer of the terrific documentary Juice: How Electricity Explains The World and the book A Question of Power: Electricity and the Wealth of Nations

Robert’s paper acknowledges that there are multiple reasons why wind and solar energy will never meet America’s energy needs, but focuses on the particular problem of land use:

Of course, other factors, including the incurable intermittency of renewables as well as the massive amounts of materials, including steel, concrete, copper, and rare earth elements, will limit the deployment of wind and solar. But the biggest barrier is the land-use problem. The ferocity and extent of rural land-use conflicts are showing that any attempt to convert the domestic economy to run solely on renewables is destined to fail.

Why is land use such a problem for wind and solar, but not for coal, nuclear or natural gas? Because wind and solar are pathetically low-intensity energy sources, as reflected in this chart from Bryce’s paper:

Because wind and solar produce so little energy per square mile, an enormous amount of land would have to be devoted to panels and turbines if we seriously tried to get all of our present electricity needs from those weak sources:

Miller and Keith determined that “meeting present-day U.S. electricity consumption, for example, would require 12 percent of the continental U.S. land area for wind.” A bit of math reveals what that 12 percent figure means. The land area of the continental U.S. is about 2.9 million square miles, or 7.6 million square kilometers. Twelve percent of that area would be about 350,000 square miles or 912,000 square kilometers. Therefore, merely meeting America’s current electricity needs with wind energy would require a territory more than two times the size of California.

Suffice to say that this just isn’t going to happen.

For one thing, no one places wind farms in Washington, D.C. or midtown Manhattan. Nor are wind projects slated for Long Island, Marin County, or near any valuable suburban developments. It is rural America that bears the burden of many square miles of wind and solar installations.

And it is a burden: apart from the obvious aesthetic issues, Bryce’s paper reviews substantial medical evidence that the noise produced by wind turbines adversely affects human health. And, of course, wind turbines are fatal to wildlife. As a result of such concerns, rural communities across America–hundreds of them–have risen up to oppose wind turbine developments. These efforts have largely been successful.

Germany undertook to mandate wind energy, but its mandates have fallen flat because of public opposition to specific wind projects. The same thing is happening in the U.S. Robert’s paper includes a database of communities that have moved to reject or restrict wind projects. American Experiment will continue to maintain this database, and make it available to towns, townships and counties that are threatened by wind developments. Public opposition promises to bring the Green New Deal to a screeching halt.

When “green” advocates tabulate the costs of wind and solar energy, they generally don’t include the thousands of miles of transmission lines that are required to bring electricity from the rural areas that are stuck with “green” development to the urban areas where the electricity is used. But such transmission lines represent a huge economic and environmental issue:

Connecting lots of wind and solar to the grid also requires appropriating land for transmission projects. According to the National Renewable Energy Laboratory, converting the domestic electric grid to run on renewables will require roughly doubling the amount of high-voltage transmission capacity in the U.S. At present, the U.S. has about 240,000 miles of high-voltage transmission. Therefore, renewables conversion means adding enough high-voltage transmission lines to circle the Earth about 10 times.

No problem! says Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. But any attempt to construct 240,000 more miles of high-voltage wires will, like the wind turbines themselves, encounter local opposition that likely will make such an effort impossible.

Please do read Robert’s report in its entirety. Together with research being done by experts like Isaac Orr, it sounds a death knell for “green” energy, which is intermittent, unreliable, low-intensity at best, outrageously expensive, and dependent on vast natural resources that may not exist, or at a minimum would require the greatest explosion of mining, manufacturing and transportation in world history.

So why does the “green dream” persist? In part, because it is inflicted on children from elementary school on. But mostly because there is a great deal of money in it. This chart shows the volume of U.S. tax incentives per unit of energy produced for various energy sources:

“Green” energy holds political sway, which has made a relative handful of people (largely non-Americans and lobbyists) immensely wealthy, while impoverishing utility rate payers and taxpayers–that is to say, the rest of us. This insanity will continue until voters wise up, or–more likely, I am afraid–until the laws of physics, along with land use and raw materials constraints, make it blindingly obvious that the “green dream” is just that. A nightmare.

By that time, an astonishing amount of wealth will have been destroyed.


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1 posted on 04/25/2021 8:01:06 AM PDT by george76
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“Apologies, but the page you requested could not be found. Perhaps searching will help.”


2 posted on 04/25/2021 8:03:12 AM PDT by Paladin2
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Expect zero point free energy soon.
3 posted on 04/25/2021 8:07:07 AM PDT by mountainlion (ILive well for those that did not make it back.)
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Anyone who bothers to UNDERSTAND Leftists would know that they are NOT stupid and they know full-well that solar and wind can NEVER work as well as fossil fuels.

But they also know that most people (including most on our side) are NOT up to speed on this, so they can parade solar/wind, while dismantling the fossil fuel infrastructure at the same time, which is EXACTLY what is now going on.


4 posted on 04/25/2021 8:08:09 AM PDT by BobL (TheDonald.win is now Patriots.win)
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https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/04/why-wind-and-solar-energy-are-doomed-to-failure.php


Wind and solar is good in it's place. In Arizona, some live off the grid with wind and solar power.
5 posted on 04/25/2021 8:10:57 AM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper)
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Thank you.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/04/why-wind-and-solar-energy-are-doomed-to-failure.php


6 posted on 04/25/2021 8:11:20 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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Fixed your link:

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/04/why-wind-and-solar-energy-are-doomed-to-failure.php


7 posted on 04/25/2021 8:11:30 AM PDT by Wuli
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Here is the correct link:

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/04/why-wind-and-solar-energy-are-doomed-to-failure.php


8 posted on 04/25/2021 8:11:59 AM PDT by Wuli
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Just click the Post title to read the article.


9 posted on 04/25/2021 8:13:01 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Any comment might be sarcasm, or not. It depends. Often I'm not sure either.)
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To: \/\/ayne; Wuli

Thank you


10 posted on 04/25/2021 8:13:29 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: SaxxonWoods

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/04/why-wind-and-solar-energy-are-doomed-to-failure.php


11 posted on 04/25/2021 8:14:46 AM PDT by Paladin2
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BECAUSE THERE IS NO INFRASTUCTURE! These dolts are pushing a green scam with electric cars and no fossil fuels knowing that you need fossil fuels to manufacture the parts and batteries and just think of the polluting in discarding the batteries. scam written all over it, another world wide money laundering effort.


12 posted on 04/25/2021 8:15:14 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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The problem is that the greenies have no sense of proportion. If all you need is a little energy to charge a few storage batteries so you can listen to the radio, watch TV, use your computer, or play with your cell phone at your “off grid” “tiny house”... wind and solar are good as long as you are in a place with good potential for that type of thing. If you want to run the fridge freezer, and microwave it starts getting much more expensive. When you want to add your stove, oven, hair dryers, heat pump and furnace... and you have a decent sized house... and you are living in the great white North things start getting a bit iffy. When you are talking about becoming the primary energy source for the power grid... we are getting into fantasy land.
13 posted on 04/25/2021 8:15:59 AM PDT by fireman15
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Tell it to Albany, Deep State...

https://www.eia.gov/state/?sid=NY#tabs-5

NYS is so screwed...

Take a close look at the price differences tab, BTW. I linked to that one for a very good reason.


14 posted on 04/25/2021 8:16:31 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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Later.


15 posted on 04/25/2021 8:16:44 AM PDT by wjcsux (RIP Rush Limbaugh 12 Jan 1951- 17 Feb 2021. We really miss you. 😢)
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There is one area where solar energy is so successful we tend to not even think about it: Our food. Our very bones ultimately are powered by the sun.


16 posted on 04/25/2021 8:17:16 AM PDT by Nateman (Keep Liberty Alive! Article V!)
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The green pushers need to agree to cease using anything in any manner that was derived in any way, shape or method involving “fossil fuels”. EVERYTHING! From socks to toothpaste to cell phones to, well, everything. Results? Bunch of dumbasses standing around nekkid. And we don’t want to see that.


17 posted on 04/25/2021 8:18:24 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this?)
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A decent sized creek can outperform $10,000 worth of solar panels because the creek runs 24/7/365.


18 posted on 04/25/2021 8:18:46 AM PDT by Pollard
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19 posted on 04/25/2021 8:20:40 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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The inadequacies and deficiencies of wind and solar power have been discussed for decades. Nothing's changed. They're still inadequate to replace conventional energy sources to any degree from fossil fuels or other means.

The climate change scammers have been pushing the same scenario for 10 to 15 years increments for many decades and then they the recycle their arguments again when the end of the world is not upon us like they predict.

So why is this "news" every few years?

20 posted on 04/25/2021 8:20:49 AM PDT by HotHunt
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