Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Workers Don't Share Democrats' Nostalgia for Unions
Townhall.com ^ | April 16, 2021 | Michael Barone

Posted on 04/16/2021 6:14:58 AM PDT by Kaslin

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-26 next last

1 posted on 04/16/2021 6:14:58 AM PDT by Kaslin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

Democrats love unions because unions extort huge sums from union members and donate a major portion to democrats. IOW, to democrats, unions are a source of campaign donations.


2 posted on 04/16/2021 6:16:44 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

In my experience.

Workers trust the unions less than management.

Which isn’t good


3 posted on 04/16/2021 6:28:58 AM PDT by redgolum (If this culture today is civilization, I will be the barbarian)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

You know what would help working class families?

Not having to pay the taxes the Left imposes at every level of human activity to fund their welfare state.

With lower government imposed costs folks might even be able to get by on a single income.


4 posted on 04/16/2021 6:29:22 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: redgolum

Maybe it equation is more they don’t trust the guy saying their organization wants to be paid by them to function as a middle man between them and the boss even less?


5 posted on 04/16/2021 6:34:30 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: DugwayDuke

Yep.


6 posted on 04/16/2021 6:44:29 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (“Unlimited power in the hands of limited people always leads to cruelty.” ― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn,)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

Unions are foundational for Progressivism going right back to the beginning when progressivism was born around 1900.

They’ll never give it up because they don’t know how. It’s like breathing. On this one, they can’t stop.


7 posted on 04/16/2021 6:47:23 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (Public meetings are superior to newspapers)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Rurudyne

Ah, but that reduces the power of government and its army of bureaucrats.


8 posted on 04/16/2021 6:48:26 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: DugwayDuke

“because unions extort huge sums from union members and donate a major portion to democrats”

That may be the key reason why unions are having a hard time winning representation elections.

Republicans are not going to join a union that is going to use their dues money to fund despicable Democratic politicians.


9 posted on 04/16/2021 6:49:45 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: DugwayDuke

Commies/progressives who run unions for the benefit of the democrat party don’t represent ‘workers’ they represent white liberal ‘elites’...


10 posted on 04/16/2021 6:53:45 AM PDT by GOPJ (We need a better class of 'elites' - the ones we have now are more like stupid white trash...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin
It's no secret that organized labor unions would like to represent employees at firms like Walmart and Amazon. That would bring in millions in union dues and , in the opinion of union advocates, better wages, benefits and working conditions for workers. more power and money for union leaders.

Fixed it for the author. The last thing in the world unions care about is the welfare of the membership. It is a means to an end.

11 posted on 04/16/2021 6:55:30 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (No matter what, resist and stop the agenda of blow bidet and hairass the whore)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Rurudyne

“Not having to pay the taxes the Left imposes at every level of human activity to fund their welfare state.”

If I could afford health insurance, I would be paying more in cross subsidization for unhealthy lifestyles than I would be paying in taxes.

In NYC, some people pay $3,000/month in rent so some other people can pay $400/month in rent, instead of $1,700/month equally.


12 posted on 04/16/2021 6:56:15 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: redgolum

Bosses are corporate management, who at least have some concept of pay for performance. Unions are government management...that guarantees workers will never make more than a negotiated maximum salary.


13 posted on 04/16/2021 7:05:19 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

The teachers’ unions in particular are nothing but trouble. Even if we succeed in recalling Newsom here in CA we will need someone with the balls or ovaries to stand up to that monster. This being the People’s Republic of California I’m not betting the farm on that one.


14 posted on 04/16/2021 7:22:14 AM PDT by FormerFRLurker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

Don’t read too much into this. Amazon greased Dem palms big time last election.


15 posted on 04/16/2021 7:34:04 AM PDT by jdsteel ("A Republic, Madam, if you can keep it." Sorry Ben, looks like we blew it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Brian Griffin

Yes. The States used their regulatory powers to socialize the insurance pools, requiring people to pay for coverage they would not usually need or even want.

It is the abuse of insurance, people using it as assurance, that broke our system. Obamaharm only doubled down on that abuse.

As for rents, heh, rent controls actually figured into the story of a Transformers novel I wrote a while back.

A character named Whiteface is trying to explain something from Cybertron’s history to the young Magnus, to protagonist. One megacycle is roughly 8 of our years.

“Magnus, do you realize that a great many Autobots never wanted to give up Quintesson rule? Shameful to admit it, but it’s true. There’s an incident in history called the Rents Riot that happened about a hundred megacycles after the revolution had succeeded. You see, after their initial success in Iacon, Primus and Alpha Trion lost the region back to the Quintessons and loyal troops. Because the economy had been drastically disrupted, the Quintessons instituted rent and price controls so loyalist wouldn’t end up homeless and destitute amid wartime inflation. After the war the loyalist still dominated Iacon, they still do, and while price controls were released they weren’t willing to give up their cheap rents. So as the city was rebuilt, the residents of the new towers had to make up the difference with even more expensive rents. Which were immediately fixed. Then more outrageous rents for those who came later. Eventually things REALLY boiled over and there was a full blown riot that lasted for nearly a stellar year.... Didn’t help anything that it was at just that moment in history that one lazy Autobot managed to enrage his Combaticon superior which resulted in one of the most egregious injustices ever ... and, sadly, another riot.”

Rent controls in NYC were from WW2 for the same reasons ... but they will never go away unlit forced to.

In my story Magnus already knew, though Whiteface didn’t, that rent controls still existed in Cybertron but there were confidentiality clauses in the leases for the luxurious places with cheep rents.


16 posted on 04/16/2021 7:46:54 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Army Air Corps

AKA “people leeching off of the citizens”


17 posted on 04/16/2021 7:53:57 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: ProgressingAmerica

Progressivism started in the 19th century, not the 20th, and its roots are in people wanting a central government possessing general power in all circumstances whatsoever ... more like the failed 1st French Republic had.


18 posted on 04/16/2021 7:56:23 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

Bolshies only believe in the money Unions can deliver.


19 posted on 04/16/2021 12:18:26 PM PDT by depressed in 06
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin
My two boys are/were in the RR union. The youngest (a first-rate conductor) smoked pot, was busted. The union stepped in and the company gave him a second chance if he and us attended family counseling with others - hairy stories by some parents.

The idiot kept on smoking pot - and drinking lots of tea as he heard it masked the MJ use. It didn't, and he was busted again ("I didn't think they'd test me again." DOH!) He was canned for good - the union said "You had your chance and blew it. We can't help you any more."

Other son is an engineer and says every time there is a negotiation, the company is aggressive, demanding 30% pay cuts and lessened days off when the union just wanted to keep the existing contract, despite inflation.

They appear to be one of the good ones. I was in two - Ladies Garment Workers and International Typographers - both fit the description of commenters here.

20 posted on 04/16/2021 3:13:01 PM PDT by Oatka
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-26 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson