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Chauvin trial: Medical examiner who performed autopsy says police pressure was more than Floyd 'could take'
Fox News ^ | April 9, 2021 | Stephanie Pagones

Posted on 04/10/2021 5:51:35 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?

The Minnesota chief medical examiner who conducted the autopsy on George Floyd’s body and deemed his death a homicide testified Friday in former officer Derek Chauvin’s murder trial.

Dr. Andrew Baker, chief medical examiner for Hennepin County, said the way police held Floyd down and compressed his neck "was just more than Mr. Floyd could take," given the condition of his heart.

Baker took the stand on Friday morning as the second week of testimony at the trial of Chauvin, 45, came to an end....

Baker testified that Floyd’s "use of fentanyl did not cause the subdural or neck restraint. His heart disease did not cause the subdural or the neck restraint."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: andrewbaker; autopsy; chauvin; chauvintrial; derekchauvin; floyd; georgefloyd; hennepincounty; minneapolis; minnesota
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Not a good day for the defense.
1 posted on 04/10/2021 5:51:35 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Or is the examiner is putting himself and his family above the truth? Hard to know.


2 posted on 04/10/2021 6:01:12 AM PDT by D Rider ( )
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Not a good day for science either. This guy is subjective weasel-wording all over the place. Nothing objective about this.


3 posted on 04/10/2021 6:02:36 AM PDT by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

The ME of course said that.
He does not want to get his house burned down and death threats
to his family. Real death threats.


4 posted on 04/10/2021 6:04:59 AM PDT by tennmountainman ( Liberals Are Baby Killers.)
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To: tennmountainman

It’s like DUH!


5 posted on 04/10/2021 6:07:53 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (`)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

I found this lawyer analysis helpful:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbmcwc5a2e4


6 posted on 04/10/2021 6:11:00 AM PDT by BDParrish (God called, He said He'd take you back!)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

From yesterday’s testimony it appears there will be peaceful riots when Chauvin is acquitted.

The chief medical officer said:

“No bruises on back or neck from the cop’s knee.”-—That was interesting

“They did not examine toxicity of stomach contents.”-—And why not when they knew he was a fentanyl user.

“Fentanyl had nothing to do with death.” But fentanyl is a pain killer used in surgeries and it impacts breathing.

My conclusion is that Floyd’s heart stopped because of his major artery blockages and he died with no pain because of the fentanyl.

That is what I would argue if I were a juror.


7 posted on 04/10/2021 6:11:13 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

The defense has yet to bring its case and I don’t see where there was any cross examination of this witness.


8 posted on 04/10/2021 6:25:28 AM PDT by billyboy15 (')
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
The question never asked: Did this officer fail his or her required pre-employment psych eval, and was hired anyway?

According to Dr. Clarissa Cole, fully half the people she flunked were hired!

And THAT boys and girls is why that question is never asked. NO ONE in the judicial system wants you to know that departments across the land routinely hire known sociopaths, give them a badge, a gun and power over the rest of us!

9 posted on 04/10/2021 6:26:08 AM PDT by null and void (The media decides what news you can see and NOT SEE. But don't you dare call 'em Not-Sees)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

“...Floyd’s heart stopped because of his major artery blockages and he died with no pain because of the fentanyl.”

NO! Floyd’s heart stopped because of his major use of
fentanyl. (which caused his heart to stop.)

Don’t cut this convicted felon, dope addict, POS any slack.

The chief medical examiner doesn’t want to be “cancelled” (permanently)


10 posted on 04/10/2021 6:27:20 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Not really. At least two of the prosecution witnesses yesterday - including this guy - answered several questions on cross that reinforced the notion of reasonable doubt.

Keep in mind, not only does the state have to prove that Chauvin took actions that he knew knew to be negligent or that might have killed Floyd, but that he did it with malice.

And yet, the ME testified under oath the Floyd’s death was ‘multi-factor’ with almost all of those factors unknown UNTIL THE AUTOPSY. How was a beat cop to know that the guy resisting arrest had: Advanced heart & pulmonary disease, lethal doses of fentanyl and - wait for it - COVID?

The state has yet to demonstrate anything close to beyond reasonable doubt that Chauvin’s actions were unwarranted much less malicious.


11 posted on 04/10/2021 6:32:03 AM PDT by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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One bit of testimony was that people who die of Fentanyl overdoses pass out before they stop breathing.

Although I am certainly no expert in drug use, I would venture that the typical OD is in a relaxed, drug induced euphoria. Easy to nod off and die in that state.

Someone who is in full fight or flight mode and flooded with adrenaline, not so much!


12 posted on 04/10/2021 6:34:11 AM PDT by null and void (The media decides what news you can see and NOT SEE. But don't you dare call 'em Not-Sees)
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To: ScubaDiver
The state has yet to demonstrate anything close to beyond reasonable doubt

That used to be the requirement. We used to have a system of justice.

13 posted on 04/10/2021 6:35:32 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: ScubaDiver

I concur 100%.


14 posted on 04/10/2021 6:36:24 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

I believe the person who said ‘fentanyl had nothing to do with his death’ was a paid state witness from two days ago. The Hennepin County ME did say that fentanyl was one of the ‘multi-factor’ reasons for his death.

With respect to your theory, what you’re describing is a heart attack. I don’t believe (thus far) there has been any testimony that there was anatomical, physiological or chemical indication uncovered during the post mortem to indicate that he suffered a heart attack.


15 posted on 04/10/2021 6:38:22 AM PDT by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Floyd had narcotics in his system, which suppress respiration.

Floyd had also previously had Covid-19, which is known to cause lung damage, along with other tissue damage.

IMO, the combination of previous Covid-19 and the drugs in his system contributed to his death. Without those factors, I do not think that the restraint imposed by the policeman was enough to kill him. I only saw one picture of the policeman with his knee over Floyd’s neck; it did not look like the policeman was applying excessive pressure at all.


16 posted on 04/10/2021 6:41:51 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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To: BDParrish

That video was outstanding! Thanks for posting, and here’s recommending everyone watch it.


17 posted on 04/10/2021 6:49:04 AM PDT by gloryblaze
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To: ladyjane; ScubaDiver

Yes, alas. I’d be surprised if the jury is even considering the evidence, frankly.


18 posted on 04/10/2021 6:49:43 AM PDT by livius
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

I listened to Dr Baker, he said that Floyd’s extensive heart disease, hypertension, and fentanyl use caused Floyd’s heart to beat faster and the stress of the arrest was too much for his weakened heart could stand. The Defense Attorney did a good job at debunking the previous day’s testimony by a couple of “medical experts” that said that the heart disease etc., didn’t cause Floyd’s death.


19 posted on 04/10/2021 6:59:00 AM PDT by euram
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

“Given the condition of his heart”

That is the fact that makes the medical examiners half truth - the pressure placed on George Floyd “caused his death” - a lie. For a man without Floyd’s heart issues, and those being exacerbated at the time by Floyd’s recent drug use, the restraint placed on Floyd would not have been excessive in any way.

And how can police know what existing personal conditions of a suspect could make them vulnerable to the level of restraint the police would otherwise normally use? The police cannot guess - oh, we better be softer with this suspect - in the seconds that they meet the suspect and must act.

I think the medical examiner is preaching to the media created choir. An honest medical examiner would admit the importance of his own admission - given the condition of Floyd’s heart - and would have added the importance of the drugs in Floyd’s system as well, as they would have related to the performance of Floyd’s heart. Instead, he wanted to appear to the crowds as a “nice guy” playing to the narrative of a conclusion before any facts.


20 posted on 04/10/2021 7:09:46 AM PDT by Wuli
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