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Even Andrew Cuomo Deserves Due Process In The Face of Sexual Harassment Charges
Townhall ^ | 03/22/2021 | Jason Garshfield

Posted on 03/22/2021 7:30:00 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: bray

no young woman wants “fun” Cuomo. That’s all in his feeble mind.


41 posted on 03/22/2021 9:34:17 AM PDT by ronniesgal (Hillary wants to be Governor of New York!!)
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To: minnesota_bound
Hang him for the 15,000+ people he murdered.

Democrats think if they can produce enough crying bimbos the public will ignore the murders...

(Why bimbos? Because these are grown up women who are perfectly capable to saying 'No' to a man. If they guy who parks their car had reached out and kissed them they would have said 'no' in no uncertain terms. Bimbos held off when the man was powerful because there's an implied negotiation happening.

Cuomo has the right to due process - and the rest of us have the right to question these women's motives, actions, morality and twisted power...

42 posted on 03/22/2021 9:44:51 AM PDT by GOPJ (And at first Jews thought Hitler was only talking about the “bad Jews” and not them- dfwgator.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s all about the timing. Why, if he’s been a wolf for decades have all these accusations come out now?

This time a year ago, he was being touted as the next POTUS. I highly suspect the who’s who demonrats have decided against him running so are doing everything they can to take him out.


43 posted on 03/22/2021 10:12:56 AM PDT by bgill (Which came first, Covid-19 or Gates and Fauci's mRNA-1273 Moderna vax?)
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To: SeekAndFind; Sacajaweau; Nathan _in_Arkansas; bray; Blood of Tyrants; Fai Mao; ScubaDiver; z3n; ...
Democrats feel IF they can produce enough crying bimbos the public will ignore the murders...

(Why bimbos? Because these are grown-up women who are perfectly capable of saying 'No' to a man. If the guy who parks their car had reached out and kissed them they would have said 'no' in no uncertain terms. Bimbos held off when the man was powerful because there's an implied sexual negotiation happening.

Cuomo has the right to due process - and the rest of us have the right to question these women's motives, actions, morality and twisted power...

44 posted on 03/22/2021 10:15:23 AM PDT by GOPJ (And at first Jews thought Hitler was only talking about the “bad Jews” and not them- dfwgator.)
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To: SeekAndFind; Sacajaweau; Nathan _in_Arkansas; bray; Blood of Tyrants; Fai Mao; ScubaDiver; z3n; ...
Democrats feel IF they can produce enough crying bimbos the public will ignore the murders...

(Why bimbos? Because these are grown-up women who are perfectly capable of saying 'No' to a man. If the guy who parks their car had reached out and kissed them they would have said 'no' in no uncertain terms. Bimbos held off when the man was powerful because there's an implied sexual negotiation happening.

Cuomo has the right to due process - and the rest of us have the right to question these women's motives, actions, morality and twisted ideas of sexual power...

45 posted on 03/22/2021 10:16:12 AM PDT by GOPJ (And at first Jews thought Hitler was only talking about the “bad Jews” and not them- dfwgator.)
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To: GOPJ

At this point, the only justice any democrat deserves is a drum-head trial for treason. As corrupt as the judicial system is, that is the only chance for justice.


46 posted on 03/22/2021 10:19:28 AM PDT by Fai Mao (Hillary Clinton =The Pig In A Pantsuit (The PIAPS))
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To: bgill
I highly suspect the who’s who demonrats have decided against him running so are doing everything they can to take him out

They are blocking him from becoming Harris's VP, a job which will be open shortly.

The new VP has to be white, he has to be a Democrat, he has to be a man, and he has to be a Governor.

In the invisible secret primary which has been going on since January 20, Cuomo was the front-runner. He may still be, for all I know.

47 posted on 03/22/2021 10:27:57 AM PDT by Jim Noble (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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To: GOPJ

“Bimbos held off when the man was powerful because there’s an implied sexual negotiation happening.”

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Okay, this is complex, because I don’t completely disagree with you. There is a lot of research about how women react emotionally to powerful men, and even if most of it is subconscious, it very probably that to some degree, they are going to react differently to an advance by a powerful (in an admirable way) male than they would the slob name Joe parking their car. In fact, as I said in other post on rape and harassment, women will often tacitly agree to advances when their is promise (or hope) of personal social gain, even if the gain is only interpersonal. Once the advance appears to have been a one-off or a superficial event, and they don’t feel they gained anything by it, they feel used (and abused) afterward.

However, that doesn’t exclude two other completely realistic and autonomous emotions/states.

One of them is that mammals have an ingrained neurology for social orders (pecking orders in birds). People freeze when someone in power gets aggressive, even if a fight/flight response is experienced, whereas they will react assertively to an aggressive show by someone they consider equal or below them.

Another one, and this one is most important, is that when you are a subordinate, you fear acting out dissension or disobedience. Unlike the previous two experiences, this one can be mostly conscious and you are very aware in the moment that you believe you are in conflict what is happening. The problem is that acquiescence is a pattern in working relationships, and that part of it can be powerfully subconscious. It sounds easy, in theory, to go from saying ‘yes, I’ll get that for you right way’ all day long to flicking a switch and saying no. Subordinates should NOT be put in that situation when it is outside the constraints of their professional contract.


48 posted on 03/22/2021 10:29:18 AM PDT by z3n
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To: z3n
It's not that I totally disagree with you... as a matter of fact I can quote studies that back up much of what you're saying. I'm assuming you're familiar with the Milgram experiments...etc. etc. etc. And yeah, when the person directing the shocks was dressed as a doctor obedience WAS higher.

That said, when people are made aware of the experiment - and how they're being manipulated - they change their behavior. They say, 'no'....

These women have the full protection of the law, the HR department in any organization and the support of members of the press - ready and willing to tell their story... In short, it's NOT 1950. This has turned into a sexual power negotiation that favors women and puts men under the sword of damocles - - for a lifetime....

Let's take out the power part of the negotiation and see how it changes: Let's say Coumo walks up to a woman and puts a dab of ketchup on the sleeve of her blouse. She looks at it - assumes it's an accident. Then he turns around and does it again. Two ketchup stains on the sleeves of her $200 blouse. Now tell me, do you think she'll tell him to 'stop it' or that she'll wait ten years until he's been damaged (and no longer can offer her the possible payback of 'guilt' dues?). No, she'll say, 'stop it'. Right then and there...Over a $200 blouse or a $20 blouse. No laws needed, no HR needed... no press bimbos needed. We need to change the standards for grown up women...

As far as sexual abuse of children is concerned the statute of limitations should be forever - there is no 'negotiation happening there and they are deserving of our full protection... but with grown up women - two years is plenty. If they can't screw up their courage in two years then the man walks.

49 posted on 03/22/2021 11:05:28 AM PDT by GOPJ (And at first Jews thought Hitler was only talking about the “bad Jews” and not them- dfwgator.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Due process? Leave him in place. Nothing says Democrat like an old perverted groping mass murderer.


50 posted on 03/22/2021 11:21:16 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: SeekAndFind

Correct. Give him a fair trial, THEN hang his @$$!


51 posted on 03/22/2021 12:43:12 PM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: GOPJ

That’s a pretty effective metaphor. The stained blouse. It elucidates your point rather well that it probably really is more about the unspoken negotiation, and probably even a lot more conscious than I’m giving them credit for, because you are right, if he did it a second time, she would protest and vocalize, albeit probably less aggressively than if it was a peer. In fact, if you could be the NSA and pull up old phone conversations with girlfriends at the time, I wouldn’t be surprised if you hear at least as much social strategery (bush-ism for you there) as you do with the hand wringing and pearl clutching.

Great points. Consider me won over on your argument, and I’d be willing to agree on the statute of limitations, but even though you have a lot more awareness, bureaucratic protection, and less social stigma these days, some of these sociopaths can create an entire culture of control not unlike what cult leaders do. There are a few signs and clues that Cuomo did just that, such as the Clintoneque attempts to damage reputations, or also that intimidation call to that state rep about the nursing home investigation.


52 posted on 03/22/2021 1:21:03 PM PDT by z3n
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To: GOPJ

“Cuomo has the right to due process - and the rest of us have the right to question these women’s motives, actions, morality and twisted ideas of sexual power.”

How about the twisted ideas of power when it comes to care of the elderly who were mass murdered by Cuomo?

This is the same guy who said pro-life people were unwelcome in his state.

The degree to which Cuomo is a sexual predator, I do not know. I know I wouldn’t trust the guy on anything. He reeks of creep.

What I do know is he’s a serial killer. He did it in broad daylight.


53 posted on 03/22/2021 3:01:23 PM PDT by unlearner (Be ready for war.)
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To: unlearner

The reason the bimbos are coming forward is to ‘change the subject’ away from the thousands of dead elderly. That’s my point... it’s not just Cuomo - there were four other democrat governors who did similar things - and also caused massive death. Instead of talking about what matters we’re back with the silly crap about grown women being unable to say, ‘no, I’m not interested’...


54 posted on 03/22/2021 9:17:42 PM PDT by GOPJ (And at first Jews thought Hitler was only talking about the “bad Jews” and not them- dfwgator.)
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To: z3n
... lot more awareness, bureaucratic protection, and less social stigma these days, some of these sociopaths can create an entire culture of control not unlike what cult leaders do. There are a few signs and clues that Cuomo did just that, such as the Clintoneque attempts to damage reputations, or also that intimidation call to that state rep about the nursing home investigation.

And I totally agree with you on the above...

55 posted on 03/22/2021 9:25:55 PM PDT by GOPJ (And at first Jews thought Hitler was only talking about the “bad Jews” and not them- dfwgator.)
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To: SeekAndFind
What judgment you hand out will be given to you.

Andrew Cuomo has judged people with blatant falsehoods and gotten innocent people killed.

So don't expect me to care or lift a finger to defend him if he is torn apart by his own wolf pack.

Dibs on the popcorn concession.

56 posted on 03/22/2021 9:44:17 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (May their path be strewn with Legos, may they step on them with bare feet until they repent. )
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To: SeekAndFind

Groping Cuomo deserves everything that’s coming to him. It is the “peoples’ form” of “due process”. It’s “due him” - jail, disbarment, impeachment, lawsuits, and getting married to Joy Reid or that McCain hag.


57 posted on 03/23/2021 1:09:36 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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