Posted on 03/19/2021 8:08:32 AM PDT by george76
The car doesn’t have to be smart or report anything when everybody is already toting a cell phone.
License plate readers are in cop cars, highways, and town/city roadways. No car goes unnoticed.
“ALL you’ve done is ‘hand wave’ and make claims with NO supporting evidence. YOU don’t even have any experience in this field ...”
Feel free to live your FANTASY WORLD, thinking they can’t nab your butt when they want to - no skin off my back. I’ll be long gone from this hell hole while you Yahoos are wasting away in our form of Chinese labor camps.
re: “Feel free to live your FANTASY WORLD,”
No, no, you’re the one just making stuff up, and don’t EVEN know where the MSID or ESN of the target ‘phone’ would be entered in the cellphone company equipment IN ORDER TO activate said phone.
You, bub, are literally making stuff up.
I’m sure that GM doesn’t have that information. Nope, no way. Never. They only built the car. LOL!!!!!
Thanks for the LAUGH tonight, though!!!!
You are correct: The vehicle manufacturers have contracts with the carriers for special data service (approx 2015-). No involvement of the vehicle owner / operator. Low data volume, low priority (for any one vehicle single transmission). The LTE activity can be seen on a cheap SDR spectral analyzer, etc.
“You are correct: The vehicle manufacturers have contracts with the carriers for special data service (approx 2015-). No involvement of the vehicle owner / operator. Low data volume, low priority (for any one vehicle single transmission). The LTE activity can be seen on a cheap SDR spectral analyzer, etc.”
Thanks, that was part of my thinking - that the data quantity was very small. Being low-priority is a good point, makes it even cheaper to buy. You have to literally disable the system if you don’t want it to rat you out. When my kids were small, I literally opened up their laptops and removed the wifi antenna, as I didn’t want them on web. Sounds like one would need to do the same on today’s cars.
Also, on my 2019 Ford, calling for a tow truck is just a screen tap away. And I don’t pay for a cellular subscription or any other subscription related to the car. Whether that particular capability remains after the vehicle warranty expires I’m not sure.
Are they tracking matchbox size cars? There are nowhere near 15 billion automobiles on the Earth.
7mpg
Wrong
https://www.hptuners.com/vehicles/
There's a way for the average person to connect to any vehicle and read that data. With many programs like above, you can disable most anything.
Hot rodders are transplanting late model Chevy Vortecs into all kinds of old vehicles and they are able to turn off anything that doesn't have to do with controlling spark and fuel.
You can also buy stripped down wiring harnesses and premade computers to replace the oem computer.
There's a lot of old Chevy trucks with late model engines transplanted into them that get 20mpg and haul ass.
Same can be done with most of your newer diesels like the Duramax.
I've got a PC based(tablet) scan tool and can connect to our F150 and record data aka data logging for any or all sensors. If the truck throws a code, I can read and clear the codes and also print out a freeze frame that gets recorded when the code is thrown. I can command the fuel pump to come on when the engine's not even running or I can shut it off while it is running although there's no good reason for the latter. I can command the EGR valve to open 20% while idling as a quick check too see if it's working. It will make it run rich and the idle will stumble.
I'm about ready for a new scan tool as this one's ten years old. I'm going to go with HPtuners. Can be used as a scan tool or to program. For programming, it comes with two vehicle credits and then they're about $100-200 per vehicle(VIN#) later on. You can tune that vehicle for life and vehicle actually means VIN or vehicle computer since the VIN is hard coded into the vehicle's computer. The scan tool part of it can be used on most vehicles and there's no buying credits involved.
Yes of course but that requires a direct connection to get the CAN/ODB data. Articles is misleading.
OnStar Corporation is a subsidiary of General Motors[1] that provides subscription-based communications, in-vehicle security, emergency services, hands-free calling, turn-by-turn navigation, and remote diagnostics systems throughout the United States, Canada, China, Mexico, Europe, Brazil, and Argentina.
All OnStar-equipped vehicles have Stolen Vehicle Tracking, which can provide the police with the vehicle's exact location, speed, and direction of movement.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OnStar
As per the quotes above, "remote diagnostics", "exact location, speed and direction". Diagnostics is the CAN bus system or whatever diagnostic system used. If they can connect to the computer for diagnostics, they scan see all. When a mechanic connects his scan tool to your vehicle, the data comes through one wire, even if it's not CAN bus. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On-board_diagnostics#OBD-II_diagnostic_connector
I'm a mechanic but I suppose you're the type that argues with your own mechanic too
Your just a mechanic. I’m the guy who can design those protocols and the hardware and firmware. The article IS HIGHLY MISLEADING because this firm can’t DO SQUAT for vehicles that don’t have OnStar type systems and even then not anyone can just access the vehicle through those systems and sell the data as the article hypes.
here’s another FACT.
Remember the 2 years GM was essentially owned by the Government after bailout?
No need for warrants, it’s easy to put in backdoors, etc,
They could literally listen in on the audio in a car in real time, without a warrant.
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