Posted on 03/06/2021 3:20:53 AM PST by FRinCanada2
Question. Why are all the amendments failing 49-50 without forcing the VP to cast the “deciding” vote and force the Administration to OWN the results ?
Why is Alaska Senator Sullivan (Republican?) not voting on any of the amendments that are failing 49/50?
Because The Turtle probably has a deal with Chuck Schumer to not require Kamala’s presence
He flew home for his Father-in-Law’s funeral.
no way. Not another Sullivan.
to add to Roberts’ satellite-controlling wife,
to the child raping (caught on ZOOM) “judge” Sullivan,
to the AF nuke losing Sullivan,
to the CNN-paid anarchist Sullivan.
Sen. Dan Sullivan ✔ @SenDanSullivan Today, I voted against proceeding to consideration of congressional Democrats' COVID-19 "relief" package, which funds a wish-list of partisan policies unrelated to the pandemic or economic recovery.
Why can’t he just put in a permanent order to vote yes on all amendments that are 49 to 50 that’s forcing the VP to cast a dividing the deciding vote
It’s the go-along to get-along show! Talk for show, vote for dough—to line THEIR pockets! Rotten, greedy bastards!
Thank you. As it will require a democratic defection to pass anything, and a defection would pass 50-49, I’d give this a pass.
Because the U.S. assumes that members of each house make up their own minds on each vote—which is somewhat more the case and used to be much more the case than in the strongly whipped English tradition.
I know that in Canada the assumption is that one always votes with the leader except in rare occasions, and defecting on anything that is whipped risks getting tossed from Caucus. The U.S. is still very different in that way—and Canada is basically an elected monarchy.
My own MP, Gallant, is what passes for a radical conservative here in terms of willingness to buck party lines (arguably she isn’t really bucking “her” party—she is one of the last MPs elected as Reform, and has been passed along to the Alliance and then the Conservatives)
Long live Preston Manning
I would much rather see bad legislation pass with 50-51(VP casting deciding vote) force the Administration to OWN it.
So would I. That said, I wouldn’t vote against a guy because he opted to go to his father-in-law’s funeral and miss votes that don’t impact what is passed.
I don’t see conspiracy here.
I thought it was traditional for a member of the opposite party to not vote when a member has an emergency like that so the vote would be 49-49? Or do traditions like that only apply when that vote doesn’t matter?
Murkowski would probably side with the rats if they needed it.
I don’t buy that as an excuse for not going on the record to vote for or against an amendment to $2 Trillion legislation. As least have the minority leader and majority leader agree to a unanimous consent to cast your YES vote and force the VP to cast HER vote.
Much ado about nothing. Would it have made a difference? kamala’s their trump. Use your head.
The VP, while President of the Senate, is neither minority nor majority leader and only has a vote when the chamber is equally divided.
There isn’t a Canadian equivalent, but the closest one would be our Speaker of the House, who has about three orders of magnitude less clout than the U.S. speaker of the House, whose legislative power is the closest U.S. equivalent to the Prime Minister (legislative power only), albeit close to two orders of magnitude less clout.
HUGE difference !! Yuuuge that is.
Forcing the VP to cast the deciding vote on these Common sense Amendments is critical to the future of the Conservative movement in the United States. It puts the ownership of the results squarely on the Administration and does not allow the current administration to blame the US Senate
I fully understand. IF the Senator from Alaska had voted on all the Amendments being offered and voted on in the past 24 hours. Presumable He would be voting YES which would make the vote 50/50 thus requiring VP Kamala Harris as the VP to cast the deciding vote and as such would very likely side with her boss and then the administration owns the results of killing those Amendments.
Yes—
but as the vote is strictly party line anyway, it doesn’t matter hugely.
While the U.S. doesn’t have whipped votes, as there really are only two parties (pax King and Sanders), when the vote is strictly party line the party owns it somewhat more than when you have party line votes in Canada.
If Biden wanted any of these to pass, he would have no problem finding a Senator to back him up—given that a solid majority of the Dem Caucus is to the right of the VP.
What a farce.
On a ‘secret poll’ you couldn’t get many of either side to order a ‘ham sandwich’ exactly the same YET they ALL (pre)tend to be in lockstep (HA) and vote party line no matter what the issue or consequence.
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