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The curious Andrew Cuomo nursing home disaster: Governors who sent sick people to nursing homes may have acted rationally at first, but their moral compasses quickly failed them
American Thinker ^ | 02/23/2021 | Joe Strader

Posted on 02/24/2021 8:09:49 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Gov. Cuomo’s fall from grace leaves many asking why he and other governors insisted for months that elderly COVID patients get warehoused in vulnerable nursing homes. When experts were predicting 2.2 million deaths, it could have been a calculated decision to sacrifice elderly to save everyone else. However, when experts were swiftly proved wrong, and that the policy should have been reversed, the refusal to admit an error, the economic benefits, and the ability to attack Trump may all have been lures too strong for these governors to resist.

Andrew Cuomo is in trouble for his March 25 order forcing COVID-positive patients to be admitted into her nursing home. This order was shocking because the elderly’s vulnerability to COVID was well known and it may have led to many nursing home deaths. Fox News reported that New York removed the order from view in May but is still available here. Other governors signed similar orders, but Gov. Cuomo remains the center of attention.

People contend that Cuomo was stupid or wanted to kill old folks. I don’t think he is that heartless nor do I believe he’s stupid. Instead, I think Cuomo was convinced that the best thing for New York would be to move COVID-positive elderly patients to nursing homes to save other lives. After all, when he issued the order, hospital capacity, including ICU beds and ventilators, were the big issues.

Cuomo may have been convinced that the total number of deaths could be lowered by freeing hospital capacity. More nursing home patients might die, but the greater public would not be denied treatment because the hospitals were full. It is a cold-hearted calculus but unavoidable. Older patients would tie up beds for more time and there was a greater possibility that they would die anyway.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: andrewcuomo; covid19; deaths; govcuomo; kirstengillibrand; newyork; nursinghomes; paping; rachellevine; tomwolf
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1 posted on 02/24/2021 8:09:49 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s infamous order came just ten days after the inception of the infamous “15 Days to Flatten the Curve” announcement. The curve flattening was specifically to keep hospital admissions low and spread out infections so that hospitals would not be stretched over capacity.

The “15 Days” event was also three days after candidate Biden had a major campaign event in which he emphasized the critical need for hospital beds:

[W]e need to surge our capacity to both prevent and treat the coronavirus and prepare our hospitals to deal with this influx of those needing care as I’ve been saying for weeks. This means not just getting out testing kits and processing them quickly, but making sure communities have the hospital beds available.... The president should order FEMA to prepare of the capacity with local authorities to establish temporary hospitals with hundreds of beds in short notice.... And a week from now, a month from now, we can need an instant 500 bed hospital to isolate and treat patients in any city in this country. We can do that, but we are not ready yet and the clock is ticking.

The President was not moving quickly enough for Cuomo and Biden. The Javits Center hospital did not open until April 2 and the hospital ship Mercy began taking patients on April 7. It turned out, though, that the experts had miscalculated. Neither facility was needed. The hospitals were not overrun. There was no massive influx of patients even though diagnosed cases were increasing.

Most importantly, if the hospitals were not overrun, sending COVID patients to nursing homes was unnecessary. It was a miscalculation based on the models. It was also an early sign that the models might be wrong, with tragic consequences.

2 posted on 02/24/2021 8:11:24 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The motive behind this abomination was real simple. Cuomo shielded the Nursing home owners from liability. They were major donors and supporters. It was assumed that a huge pot of Federal money would come to institutions that cared for COVID patients. Much of that money would be kicked back to Cuomo. Also he did not want to give Trump the political benefit of using the USS Comfort or the military staffed Javits center. There was no money or political benefit by utilizing those facilities. Cuomo is vile and evil.


3 posted on 02/24/2021 8:15:26 AM PST by allendale
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To: SeekAndFind

What’s with American thinker.

There’s no “they”.

It was cuomo.


4 posted on 02/24/2021 8:16:02 AM PST by stanne
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To: SeekAndFind

He acted rationally all along.

Order sick patients returned.

Allow positive staff to continue to report to work.

Keep family and friends away.

But protecting residents’ health wasn’t his goal.


5 posted on 02/24/2021 8:18:09 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds. )
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To: allendale

I think Medicaid costs were also a factor.

Residential care is cheaper than hospital care. And he likely also didn’t want the state paying for both at the same time.


6 posted on 02/24/2021 8:19:52 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds. )
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To: stanne

There’s a they.

The legislature knew damn well what was going on.

Gave him carte blanche to do it.

Knew all about what was going on.

AND DID NOTHING TO STOP IT.


7 posted on 02/24/2021 8:21:30 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds. )
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To: SeekAndFind

No, Cuomo didn’t act rationally. Trump sent all kinds of resources to New York. Built a hospital at the Javits center, a hospital ship, and a private group built a hospital in central park. None of those resources were utilized. No one is talking about that, they’re just blowing it off as if it didn’t exist. Instead infected people were sent into the most vulnerable populations with the obvious results and it’s just “ho hum we didn’t realize this could happen”. Total bullshit and the media continues to carry that water.


8 posted on 02/24/2021 8:25:49 AM PST by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged )
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To: SeekAndFind

No, no and......no.

Deliberately killing vulnerable people to “save” the others is not a moral, ethical or even rational decision.

The evil Dem Cuomo was caught and lied repeatedly, blamed Trump (!) and then is hopefully going to get exposed fully.


9 posted on 02/24/2021 8:27:33 AM PST by frank ballenger (End vote fraud, harvesting,non-citizen voting & leftist media news censorship or we are finished.)
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To: mewzilla

“There’s a they.“

Read the article. American thinker is talking about other governors


10 posted on 02/24/2021 8:44:07 AM PST by stanne
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To: SeekAndFind
People contend that Cuomo was stupid or wanted to kill old folks. I don’t think he is that heartless nor do I believe he’s stupid. Instead, I think Cuomo was convinced that the best thing for New York would be to move COVID-positive elderly patients to nursing homes to save other lives.

Neither of these were true.

Take a look at how much it costs to have an elderly family member in a full-service nursing home.

Every day that one of those residents was in a hospital with COVID was a day of lost revenue for the owners of the nursing home.

Cuomo sent those elderly people back to the nursing homes because the organizations that own and operate those facilities were pressuring him to send them back.

11 posted on 02/24/2021 9:01:05 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("And once in a night I dreamed you were there; I canceled my flight from going nowhere.")
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To: allendale

Exactly. He didn’t act compassionately at any point I. Time over this issue. He had to know right from the start that he was endangering the nation’s most vu,vulnerable, population. There is no way he couldn’t have known that, and why the hell would ANYONE risk the elderly like that by causing them to be in closer contact with the virus? He had all kinds of resources available to hi. Like the ship ,field hospitals Franklin Graham even donated for this.

No he knew full well what he was doing. This article seems to be trying to give hi. A semi out. It was purely for $$ and he didn’t give a rip about the e.derly dying. If he had, if he simply made a mistake, he would have immediately removed the infected and tried to quell the outbreaks, at the first signs that things were going south on him, but he didn’t


12 posted on 02/24/2021 9:04:53 AM PST by Bob434
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Yes, it’s true that he and the other Governors will be Judged by the Judge for what they’ve done in this life ... but ... I pray that justice be done first while they are still here.

It’s the best thing that could happen to them and for the states they govern, too.

It’s more likely they’ll repent and ask for Mercy if they’re sitting in a jail cell instead of a Governor’s mansion.

And we, the people, need to see justice be done even to the high and mighty PTBs, so that perhaps our trust in government can be restored.

13 posted on 02/24/2021 9:07:10 AM PST by GBA (Endeavor to persevere)
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To: stanne

The other governors have legislatures, too.


14 posted on 02/24/2021 9:08:16 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds. )
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To: Alberta's Child

Not all of them were.

But some who initially refused took them back anyway.

That’s where investigators should concentrate.


15 posted on 02/24/2021 9:09:40 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds. )
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To: mewzilla
I'll post an epic quote I heard from a sports radio host in NYC a while back:

"If something [in sports/business/politics/life] doesn't make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars."

16 posted on 02/24/2021 9:14:26 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("And once in a night I dreamed you were there; I canceled my flight from going nowhere.")
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To: SeekAndFind
That is a very weird article. It writes off some truly monstrous calculus by Cuomo early, by saying his mistake was not reversing his policy once the situation changed.

That compounded the issue, but why would you ever write an article propounding the idea that his initial thinking was anything less than Mengele-level horrible?

At some point, if thousands were dying in the streets, then maybe that sort of cold utilitarian thinking might have become necessary, but not based on fact-free crystal ball predictions, about a disease we'd never seen before and had no real idea what course it would take.

17 posted on 02/24/2021 9:18:37 AM PST by dead (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPC8zB-JPSg)
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To: mewzilla

The other governors did not do what cuomo did

Stop wasting my time


18 posted on 02/24/2021 9:21:49 AM PST by stanne
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To: SeekAndFind

No they did not act “rationally”.

The one thing known about this virus from almost the start was that the elderly were the most susceptible to it... Every governor that ordered that nursing homes must take Covid Patient is a mass murderer.

There was NOTHING rational about ordering nursing homes must take Covid Patients. NOTHING!!!

Those actions are at best actions of willful ignorance and at worse callous disregard for human life.

Every one of these governors should be facing Murder 2 charges for every one of these deaths.


19 posted on 02/24/2021 9:22:22 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: SeekAndFind

Makes no difference. Governor stepped into doctor-patient relationships to exert ‘control’ of a vector with insufficient knowledge by denying access to cheap treatments for Covid that America had all along.

The lives lost in rest homes from lack of those treatments are murders than land at the governors’ feet. They should be tried for mass murder.


20 posted on 02/24/2021 9:22:46 AM PST by RideForever (We are born to be tested ...)
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