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San Francisco ‘Feels Like a Tomb’ as Companies Embrace ‘Work from Home’
Breitbart ^ | 02/16/2021 | Joel B Pollak

Posted on 02/16/2021 6:13:56 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

San Francisco has become a “desolate” city over the past year, as the coronavirus pandemic forced people to work from home — and companies learned to embrace it.

A few years ago, as Breitbart News reported in 2016, San Francisco was so crowded with workers, and so expensive to live in, that people would commute from hours away each day to reach the city.

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To: bert

So you probably deal with slugs all the way to highly self motivated individuals?
I can understand some people’s concern.
I’m solely responsible for my designs, so I must be a self motivated individual. Managers used to just waste my time and interrupt my design concentration.


21 posted on 02/16/2021 6:56:35 AM PST by EEGator
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To: atc23

“You’ll never get near the productivity from work at home workers. People take off, go shopping, go to the beach. Etc There’s no connectivity to others in your work group.”

Wrong.

https://www.inc.com/scott-mautz/a-2-year-stanford-study-shows-astonishing-productivity-boost-of-working-from-home.html

https://www.apollotechnical.com/working-from-home-productivity-statistics/

https://www.inc.com/marcel-schwantes/new-study-reveals-why-working-from-home-makes-workers-more-productive.html

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/12/27/does-working-from-home-make-employees-more-productive


22 posted on 02/16/2021 7:05:22 AM PST by billyboy15 (')
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To: atc23

“You’ll never get near the productivity from work at home workers. People take off, go shopping, go to the beach. Etc There’s no connectivity to others in your work group.”

Not a chance. If you pay me what I make now or even a little less to allow me to work from the side of some mountain in Nowhere Alabama where the cost of living is 1/3 what it is in this slum, I’ll work to the bone for ya!


23 posted on 02/16/2021 7:09:29 AM PST by The Toll
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To: billyboy15

Wrong.


There is the Hawthorne effect.

And it all depends on how you define work and productivity. Most work these days is done to satisfy the computer, not the public.

I for one am wary of defining work and productivity with computer statistics.


24 posted on 02/16/2021 7:09:45 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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bump


25 posted on 02/16/2021 7:13:42 AM PST by foreverfree
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Property values for homes north of Gay Frisco are going up basically everyday as more people leave Gay Frisco, move away and work from their home.

Besides having better working conditions, internet connections are reasonable and getting faster everyday.

We have UPS/FedX and US Mail at least twice a day for those willing to pay a little extra beyond normal deliveries on our cul de sac. There was some US Mail deliveries and pickups on our cul de Sac on yesterday’s holiday. UPS and Fed Ex were up and down the street until dark yesterday.

Also, all of these delivery services can be used at stand alone sites or at in store sites in Office Depot and similar business.

One of the most successful sites is next door to a US mail branch office, where to get an inside mail box you could be on a several year list. Some US Mail boxes were passed on from family member to family member under the same business
name.

Now, you can get a mail box and use their counter space, have faxes sent, copies made and packaging whatever needs to be packaged.

The official postal branch is now advertising that they have inside boxes ready to serve you . They also pick up mail at their new competitor several at that branch several times a day versus their own once a day pickup box outside and inside their branch.


26 posted on 02/16/2021 7:18:27 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Law & order took the last train out of DC & America on election/coup/night, Tuesday, Nov. 03, 2020!!)
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To: atc23
You’ll never get near the productivity from work at home workers. People take off, go shopping, go to the beach. Etc There’s no connectivity to others in your work group

Or, you eliminate all the costs of the "connectivity to others in your work group", mostly meaningless meetings, reviews, sharing of feelings and all that other bull*** so that the ten percent of your workers actually capable of productivity can work in peace.

It's hard work filling up an eight hour day with people pretending to do something useful.

Long ago, in a different life, I was a mailman (no, I did not know John Kasich's father). I was a city carrier, summer sub, not RFD.

That job, done right, takes about 3.5 hours while you are on the clock for 8.5 hours (0.5 is lunch).

Every once in a while, an inspector would come to make sure walking your route took a full five and a half hours. It was called "going out on check".

Making your 2.5 hour route take 5.5 hours is VERY VERY DIFFICULT with a pedometer and an inspector.

But productivity? Fuggedaboutit!

Nobody - and I mean NOBODY - wants to get their mail at 3 PM. If you can hit every house by 11 AM, your customers win, the local diners win, the housewife girlfriends win (or so I've been told), the liquor stores win - the only losers are the little bosses who report to the big bosses that, yes, every route takes exactly 5.5 hours.

"Workgroup connectivity" is a myth. Remote is the future.

27 posted on 02/16/2021 7:20:25 AM PST by Jim Noble (He who saves his nation violates no law)
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To: PeterPrinciple

“And it all depends on how you define work and productivity. Most work these days is done to satisfy the computer, not the public.”

Productivity is job specific and it is the adherence to the goals and job description which will determine the degree of productivity.

A person whose job it is is to take sales reporting from 300 Salesmen spread over a like number of sales districts in 50 States and create a graph has no need to satisfy the public.


28 posted on 02/16/2021 7:21:12 AM PST by billyboy15 (')
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Yep one thing big tech, and most businesses, have now figured out is you don’t need 30K sq. feet and and a 50K a month rent these days. Let 80% work from home and keep a rotating 20% on site in much smaller and cheaper offices. And add to that all the restaurant and small retail businesses that have and will go under. Commercial property is and will keep taking a big hit. Amazon, Wal-Mart and the other global corporatists make out big.


29 posted on 02/16/2021 7:29:11 AM PST by circlecity
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To: billyboy15

A person whose job it is is to take sales reporting from 300 Salesmen spread over a like number of sales districts in 50 States and create a graph has no need to satisfy the public.


I was there when computers started. We used it to analyze numbers to help make management decisions but found our internal computer was better at it, because we had more variables we understood. Then the computers became a life of their own, generating lots of reports and numbers because it was easy.

Now, regarding your above statement. How was it done before computers? and yes it was done very well.

Do you really want a boss that is only looking at numbers, or you as an individual? Which is more productive?


30 posted on 02/16/2021 7:33:16 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

White accountants have been banned—_that_ is how you show a surplus!


31 posted on 02/16/2021 7:40:48 AM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I am in San Francisco right now, for a couple of weeks.

The description is apt, especially in the downtown business district. There is hardly anyone commuting in, and most businesses in the area are closed, such as the myriad lunch places, many boarded up. Even high toned deal-making restaurants like the venerable Tadich Grill are closed.
Elsewhere in downtown SF the look is even worse. The homeless swarm is greater than ever. And boarded up businesses are the rule, not the exception, from all around Union Square to Market St. and beyond. Its more Great Depression than tomb, because the homeless are alive at least.
There is even a homeless “gated subdivision” at Civic Center, with the Pioneer Plaza between the Library and the Asian Art Museum closed off by gates and fencing, as a homeless encampment.
At night the vibe is even more grim, purely “Omega Man”, if you remember that Charlton Heston Apocalyptic movie.

Its extremely depressing.


32 posted on 02/16/2021 7:42:31 AM PST by buwaya
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To: atc23
You’ll never get near the productivity from work at home workers. People take off, go shopping, go to the beach. Etc There’s no connectivity to others in your work group.

That statement is true very often--when the managers are brain dead.

Good managers know how to measure properly, motivate properly, and get outstanding results from folks who work at home.

However, less than half of the managers have even the beginning of a clue...
33 posted on 02/16/2021 7:42:45 AM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: SamAdams76

Heh, I call it the AI monitoring how much time I spend goofing off.

The Microsoft package sends me a breakdown of my working day.
My top collaborators.
Time available for moar meetings

Yada, yada yada


34 posted on 02/16/2021 8:21:25 AM PST by Steven Tyler
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Companies Embrace ‘Work from Home’
Your computer belong to ours like much Xi.


35 posted on 02/16/2021 8:22:48 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: circlecity

And Municipal taxes take a hit, unable to support a vast group of gubmint workers and their pensions.

Too bad


36 posted on 02/16/2021 8:29:21 AM PST by Steven Tyler
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To: Steven Tyler

Blue states, especially their big cities, are not worried about their terrible financial situation. P * Biden and the Dems will bail them out.


37 posted on 02/16/2021 8:31:41 AM PST by Freee-dame
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To: PeterPrinciple

“Do you really want a boss that is only looking at numbers, or you as an individual? Which is more productive?”

I am an old guy, well, WELL past retirement and my expectations re working are old school.

The boss owes me NOTHING except a paycheck based on my contribution and ability to help the company. If I feel I am being mistreated in any way including under paid I will make my unhappiness known and seek a solution. If I get none I leave and get another job.

My way worked for me and I was able to retire at the age of 52 because I always did my best and made sure I was rewarded for my efforts.


38 posted on 02/16/2021 8:38:04 AM PST by billyboy15 (')
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To: bert
It’s simple...... many will not actually work at home. They lack the discipline required to control their inherent laziness.

The work from home model is not that easy to do, it does require self discipline.

I know, I used to have a home office.

It is however, easy to track and trace the workers from the laggards.

Since working from home requires the use of electronic equipment, the monitoring of any given employee and their production is not too hard.

In my case, as a sales guy, with a quota, the measurement was easy, where are you in relationship to quota.

In today's world, I could not function.

I was always, way over quota, and way behind on reporting.

In one company, I was 250% of quota but six months behind on expense reporting and they threatened to fire me.

I axed if they were serious, and they were, and screamed bad stuff at me.

I told them to shove the job up their collective a____ {after I had already had another job with a competitor} and walked out the door.

At home or in an office, reporting was not high on my list.

39 posted on 02/16/2021 8:56:10 AM PST by USS Alaska (NUKE ALL MOOSELIMB TERRORISTS, NOW.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Good question...

https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2020/11/12/san-francisco-faces-116m-budget-gap-after-election.html


40 posted on 02/16/2021 9:03:49 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds. )
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