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Gender identity bill divides Spain’s feminists, left-wing
The Associated Press ^ | February 13, 2021 | By ARITZ PARRA

Posted on 02/13/2021 5:36:09 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

MADRID - Victòria Martínez continues to sign official documents with the name that she, her partner and their two daughters ditched four years ago. Barring any surprises, she expects the Spanish government to recognize her as Victòria by May, closing a patience-wearing chapter familiar to transgender people around the world.

Changing her legal identity at a civil registry office in Barcelona will allow Martínez to update her passport and driver’s license and to carry a health card that correctly states she is a woman. But the process, which the pandemic prolonged, has been, in her words, “humiliating” — requiring a psychiatric diagnosis, reports from three doctors and a court’s approval.

A new law proposed by the far-left party in Spain’s coalition government would make it easier for to change genders for official purposes. A bill sponsored by Equality Minister Irene Montero aims to make gender self-determination — no diagnosis, medical treatment or judge required — the norm, with eligibility starting at age 16. Nearly 20 countries, eight of them in the European Union, already have similar laws.

Factions of the Catholic Church and the far-right have focused their opposition to the bill on the fact that it also would allow children under 16 to bypass parental objections and seek a judge’s assistance in accessing treatment for gender dysphoria.

Less expected has been the fierce resistance from some feminists and from within Spain’s Socialist-led government.

“I’m fundamentally worried by the idea that if gender can be chosen with no more than one’s will or desire, that could put at risk the identity criteria for 47 million Spaniards,” Deputy Prime Minister Carmen Calvo, a veteran Socialist and women’s rights advocate, said last week.

Opponents argue that allowing people to choose their gender eventually would lead to “erasing” women from the public sphere.

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: freakshow; homosexualagenda; perverts; spain; transgender

1 posted on 02/13/2021 5:36:09 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
..."that correctly states she is a woman"

Until someone brings up that dreaded "biologically" argument.
2 posted on 02/13/2021 5:39:54 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Telepathic Intruder

That ‘correctly’ does look jarring in a publication that hedges its statements in words like ‘alleged.’


3 posted on 02/13/2021 5:45:21 AM PST by posterchild
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

4 posted on 02/13/2021 5:46:47 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

As a man I do not have a dog in this fightm but as i said to another person a while back, feminists who support stuff like this are screwing their own sisters over in the long run.


5 posted on 02/13/2021 5:56:35 AM PST by the_individual2014
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

LOL!

“But the process, which the pandemic prolonged, has been, in her words, “humiliating” — requiring a psychiatric diagnosis, reports from three doctors and a court’s approval.”

They could have skipped all the psychiatric tests and simply asked it to drop its pants to determine the “gender”.


6 posted on 02/13/2021 5:56:49 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Transgenderism is merely a consequence of the Western neo pagan decadence that began in earnest in the 1960s. The Chinese are right to view Western culture as an old dying oak rotting at its core. The only question is if the young saplings that surround it will somehow grow into something healthy and strong.


7 posted on 02/13/2021 5:58:13 AM PST by allendale
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To: Telepathic Intruder

“...”that correctly states she is a woman” “

Leave it to the AssPress to mainstream this insanity.


8 posted on 02/13/2021 5:59:51 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: allendale

“The Chinese are right to view Western culture as an old dying oak rotting at its core. The only question is if the young saplings that surround it will somehow grow into something healthy and strong.”

I’m sure President Xi is rubbing his hands with glee, as are the islamists.

It’s going to be interesting which one of those two will simply walk in and take over. And frankly either one would be an improvement over the insanity we currently live under.


9 posted on 02/13/2021 6:06:29 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Maybe Spain is pioneering chromosome transplants?


10 posted on 02/13/2021 6:10:30 AM PST by Midwesterner53
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Amazing how insanity is taking over the world. If a male declares he’s a female, we are now required under severe penalties to acknowledge that and to use the “correct” pronouns. But if a light skinned person claims to be a Privileged Person of Color, that person is fired, trashed, ostracized and blackballed.


11 posted on 02/13/2021 6:26:41 AM PST by I want the USA back (The nation is in the grips of hysterical insanity, as usual.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“...and to carry a health card that correctly states she is a woman.”

That’s all well and good until he-she-it goes to the doctor claiming he-she-it has an intrauterine infection...and then flops the old Johnson out on the examination table.


12 posted on 02/13/2021 6:49:56 AM PST by moovova (Yo GOP....we won't forget.)
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To: Midwesterner53

Chromosome transplants? Reattaching Spock’s brain would be child’s play by comparison.


13 posted on 02/13/2021 7:41:26 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Farmer John has breeder mules for sale hurry while supply lasts.


14 posted on 02/13/2021 8:28:51 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Divide and conquer.


15 posted on 02/13/2021 10:25:33 AM PST by Persevero (I am afraid propriety has been set at naught. - Jane Austen )
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To: moovova

And then sues the doctor for misdiagnosis and mistreatment.


16 posted on 02/14/2021 3:37:17 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Don't wish your enemy ill; plan it.)
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