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Morgan Stanley: Gasoline Industry Is About to Become Totally Worthless
Oilprice ^ | Feb 09, 2021 | Alex Kimani

Posted on 02/11/2021 1:41:15 AM PST by nickcarraway

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To: Soul of the South

Not just generating capacity, transmission.


21 posted on 02/11/2021 3:01:28 AM PST by steve8714
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To: raybbr

>>There is no such thing as renewable energy.<<

Entropy.

Learn it.

Love it.


22 posted on 02/11/2021 3:04:28 AM PST by freedumb2003 (No matter what, resist and stop the agenda of blow bidet and hairass the whore)
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To: dalight

ow many companies are developing EV Harvesters, Combines, disc cultivators, etc etc?

Gonna get mighty hungry.


23 posted on 02/11/2021 3:09:00 AM PST by Kozak (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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To: dalight

In discussions with my sister and my “woke” adult children most of whom view themselves as being among the coastal elite and not beholden to flyover country. The vaunted “green new deal” relies heavily on nuclear power. Their claim is the safety issues have been solved by new technology and that energy source is what will make up the shortfall between wind and solar production and the current level of “fossil fuel” generation.
This was quite a revelation to us baby boomers who remember well how rabidly opposed the left was to nuclear power. To the point that they bankrupted LILCO by refusing to allow the Shorham plant to open on LI. That turned out to be part of the left’s master plan as that area is serviced by a government owned and run outfit


24 posted on 02/11/2021 3:17:37 AM PST by scottteng (Why fight it out lets split up the country peacefully now)
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To: Soul of the South

The governments own estimates are that. 8000 charging stations (with 3 units each) are needed to service just 7 million cars. There are almost 240 million passenger vehicles in America. Then factor in that charging will take about 30 minutes instead of 5 minutes for a tank of gas. Want to spend half your day in an EV charge station lineup?

https://electrek.co/2017/10/05/electric-car-charging-infrastructure-needed-support-7-million-evs-study/


25 posted on 02/11/2021 3:20:15 AM PST by littleharbour ("You take on the intel community they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you" C. Schumer)
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To: dalight
Yes.

Still More #ComDem_Insanity!

26 posted on 02/11/2021 3:26:07 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: dalight

Not just in terms of generation, but the distribution lines have to be able to carry the increased amperage for load demands. And properly sized transformers, and metering, and secondary cables...


27 posted on 02/11/2021 3:26:58 AM PST by EEGator
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To: nickcarraway

Until they solve the range issues and create a charging infrastructure it’s all just a bad joke. I wouldn’t mind driving an electric car if it had the same range and convenience as a gas car. But they flat out don’t yet.

CC


28 posted on 02/11/2021 3:28:36 AM PST by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: nickcarraway

There is a good reason why I pay no attention to “oilprice” articles.


29 posted on 02/11/2021 3:36:33 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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To: MalPearce
What is your solar peak watt output?

How much did your panels cost, installed, without subsides?

What you are describing is not what I have seen, and I live in Arizona.

30 posted on 02/11/2021 3:39:48 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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To: nickcarraway

morgan stanley will collapse from its own stupidity before the internal combustion engine is equal to the buggy whip.

This is absolute myopic tunnel vision.


31 posted on 02/11/2021 3:44:17 AM PST by Migraine ( Liberalism is great (until it happens to YOU).)
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To: eartick

giddap! the eealty distortionists are really “fkyibg” until they hit rick bottom


32 posted on 02/11/2021 3:44:20 AM PST by Theophilus (Breathe free!)
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To: dalight

You have to realize these so-called analysts that work for Big Banks such as Morgan Stanley are no different or no better than the hedge funds that got a massive beat down from the GameStop situation. They’re just talking heads with an opinion they really don’t have any facts just agendas, which generate market movements which equals money for them..


33 posted on 02/11/2021 3:49:03 AM PST by Article10 (Roger That)
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To: freedumb2003

Uh, sure. Not sure . What’s your point?


34 posted on 02/11/2021 3:50:01 AM PST by raybbr (The left is a poison on society. There is no antidote. Running its course will be painful. You )
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To: MalPearce
What is your actual energy usage?

Any house can be run off of solar power if they don't use much energy.

For example, you do not mention air conditioning or heating.

35 posted on 02/11/2021 3:50:46 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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To: nickcarraway

a great resource page. have noted headlines from just the last 3 days:

Stop These Things
11 Feb: Frequency Freak-out: Chaotic Wind & Solar Threaten to Cripple Europe’s Power Grid

10 Feb: It’s Subsidised Wind & Solar or Meaningful Well-Paid Jobs: But You Can’t Have Both

9 Feb: Coal Comfort: Total Collapse in Wind & Solar Output Leaves Freezing Germans Desperate for Coal-Fired Power
https://stopthesethings.com/


36 posted on 02/11/2021 3:54:08 AM PST by MAGAthon
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To: nickcarraway
Coal-powered power plants have been shuttering at an alarming clip as the price of electricity from natural gas and renewables undercuts them while wind and solar generation continue to gain the ascendancy.

Biden has already made moves to reverse that trend.

His executive orders to stop Fracking and his moratorium on leases of federal land for oil and gas exploration is going to drive up the cost of energy across the board and electricity in particular.

37 posted on 02/11/2021 3:57:10 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: RC one

That is the best response when talking to the green cult. No amount of fact will convince them otherwise. Any discussion on the topic will lead to a trip through the Wonderful Land of Oz or Wonderland.

I would love one of them to explain how wind and solar will produce the tar to make asphalt. I would also like one of them to show me alternative energy producing the material to make itself without the use of oil. Mining the raw materials, transport, manufacturing and then deliver the windmills, solar panels and other devices, Now that would be interesting to see with out the use of oil.


38 posted on 02/11/2021 4:02:33 AM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: nickcarraway

Garbage 🗑 “yo energy cost gona sky rockit “


39 posted on 02/11/2021 4:03:19 AM PST by Recompennation
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To: marktwain

I’m in North Yorkshire, in the UK. It’s midday, currently -2 degrees and cloudy... And right now it is generating 1,670w. It hasn’t hit peak yet; that’s well over 4kW and we won’t get the full benefit of that until after the spring equinox.

The system is comprised of 12 410w Canadian Solar panels, a Sofar HYD 6000 inverter, and Pylontech US-3000 battery which is charging from solar.

We’ve got the washing machine, dishwasher, tumble drier and electric fan oven on right now so are using 2760kw. Stick the cooker on too, and we might hit 5.5kw.

The total spend was £8k but that included a partial house rewire with 16 energy monitoring plugs, critical load split, voltage optimiser to stabilise the grid input, Evohome multizone heating controls, and a Raspberry pi which I use to control and monitor the entire stack.

And the cost of the scaffolding for a week, as we had some roof repairs done at the same time.

No grants or subsidies.


40 posted on 02/11/2021 4:08:57 AM PST by MalPearce
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