Posted on 01/29/2021 6:57:50 PM PST by ebb tide
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Do not take the vaccine.
She sure as hell has my attention.
I am inclined to believe her.
Make the HCQ and Ivermectin available on prophylaxis protocol and opt out of vaccination.
Dr. Vladimir Zelenko has been advocating this since last March.
White papers are opinion pieces. And the headline belies the remainder of the opinion that vaccinations should be administered to risk groups.
Your opinion is of course clear. Of course you are welcome to it. Yet it perplexes me why you feel it necessary to publish opinion pieces as fact. Additionally this physician with some group name does not represent the majority opinion of those of us on the front line.
Blessings on your evening.
Part of the HIPAA law.
To save you time, the synopsis is - there are 7800 COVID-19 vaccine incident reports.
Consider your knowledge of the number of total covid vaccines administered in 2020 - it was not happening till the last few weeks, and was slow to ramp-up. Now, that 7800 seems fairly significant. There are 3 vaccines covered - two for Phizer and one for Moderna.
I recommend going to the link above and looking for yourself at the data. Scroll thru it, comparing the differences between regular vaccines (shingles, measles, etc) to the bottom (its in date order, end of year last) where almost all of the reports are covid vaccines.
I’m retired military. I had an annual this month at the bases off-base clinic. My doctor asked me if I and or my wife wanted the vaccine. I said no. He didn’t make any attempt to talk me into it. Instead, to my surprise he smiled. I asked if he intended to take it? He said, if I had a choice I would not.
If you don’t go yourself to the data, one other point to mention -
The 7800 covid vaccine reports are among 52,000 total reports for the year.
In other words, 15% of the reports are due to covid vaccine. And these 15% occurred in the last 2-3 weeks of December.
Imagine extrapolating out to if the vaccine was admistered all year long, and how many reports ther’d be.
This is diabolical, IMHO.
From medpage today -- a physician news source
We reported that many members of America's Frontline Doctors, a physician group that spread misinformation about the pandemic, had little to no experience treating COVID-19 patients. Here, we take a look at the messages that group has continued to spread during the pandemic. A physician group that rampantly spread COVID-19 misinformation is back in the spotlight -- but this time, sowing doubt about the vaccine.
America's Frontline Doctors, an organization that claims to provide uncensored, accurate information about the pandemic, became infamous in July after a viral press conference that protested government lockdown restrictions and spread inaccuracies ranging from the ineffectiveness of masks to claims that hydroxychloroquine could "cure" COVID-19. Now, those same doctors -- the majority of which have no experience treating COVID-19 patients -- have launched a campaign to warn Americans that they should not be forced to take an "experimental vaccine," while failing to mention the safety trials and large phase III efficacy trials, along with the fact that no vaccine mandate exists. The day before Pfizer's vaccine was administered at healthcare facilities across the country, Simone Gold, MD, JD, who founded the group, spoke in front of the CDC headquarters in Atlanta to warn on potential safety hazards. "The first point that we want to bring out is the fact that this is an experimental vaccine, and not a vaccine at this point," Gold said in a video shared on her Twitter account.
"Experimental vaccines should NEVER be mandated or forced by businesses or govt. This choice should always remain between a doctor and a patient," she wrote in the post. "For anyone considering the Pfizer vaccine, know that you are getting an EXPERIMENTAL vaccine," James Todaro, MD, a member of America's Frontline Doctors, wrote on Twitter. Todaro, a former practicing ophthalmologist who is now a blockchain investor, stated that Americans should "think twice if you are under 50 yrs old with an [infection fatality rate] under 0.02%." These claims were not backed by data and neither member provided examples of vaccine mandates. Gold and Todaro did not respond to requests for comment from MedPage Today. Physicians and medical experts were outraged by these sentiments, stating that clinicians who have actually treated COVID patients on the frontlines would never support these claims. "For the record, nearly all the frontline doctors I've worked with and spoken to who've actually taken care of critically ill COVID-19 patients and seen how horrible this virus can be have been eagerly getting in line and grateful to roll up their sleeves," Craig Spencer, MD, MPH, an emergency physician at NewYork-Presbyterian/Columbia University in New York City,
ebb is anti-vaccine
I’m pro informed consent.
And this whole thing is such a cluster foxtrot that informed consent is nigh on impossible.
And from the American Association of Family practitioners. One of the founders of this group:
And the “frontline doctors”?
One is Douglas Deibele, who claimed on Twitter in March that he’d successfully treated 500 patients on a combined regimen of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin — curious, given that Deibele is a dentist who has not practiced medicine in more than two decades, having set aside teeth in favor of acting. Look fast to see his uncredited bit parts in, for instance, Bad Samaritan. He is not the only member of the group who is no longer practicing medicine, but that didn’t stop them from advising a vulnerable public against wearing masks and maintaining social distance, among other false, potentially lethal rantings.
What is for sure is that this is a discredited group of alleged physicians who really are not on the front line, and simply advocating for a position that they have no particular expertise in.
It is important that people can choose for themselves the information that is presented.
I had no idea....
I am glad you pointed this out. All are, of course, entitled to their own opinion and to govern their lives according to that opinion. However, the intentional distribution of inaccurate information from people fraudulently representing exactly who they are is important to expose.
Have a great evening!
Are white papers less factual than your personal opinions?
Blessing to you also.
Bookmark.
Please see the factual data presented above. I am simply questioning the source, of course, you are entitled to your opinion regarding not wanting the vaccine. But I think in the spirit of discussion, the headlines of this group require exposure of who they really are.
I completely understand and respect your position, though I disagree vehemently with it. I think we agree that no one person should be compelled to take this vaccine if they do not want. But I worry that misinformation may prevent true choice for an individual patient.
All the best to you for a peaceful weekend.
Gator is not telling you the truth. I have informed him I just received the shingles vaccine this year. Yet, he continues to bear false witness.
I have a deep respect for metmom, whom I believe is aligned with you. I am so sorry, I did not realize you were against all vaccines. I have agreed with metmom to be accurate in my observations, so I understand that you disagree and are concerned about this particular vaccines, not all vaccines.
I will keep this in mind for further interactions. Thank you for clarifying. I am equally as certain that is Gator intended no harm.
I can only speak for myself and state that I will keep this in mind while conversing with you in the future.
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