Posted on 01/29/2021 6:57:50 PM PST by ebb tide
I think it is important to note that reports include — fatigue, temperature, myalgia, arthralgia. All of which are minor, and do make up the majority if reports.
If truth be told, we understand that 18 deaths are under investigation, although the timing is quite suspect (weeks or month after injection).
Please, folks, listen to Dr. Gold.
Do not run out willy-nilly to volunteer as a guinea pig for Big Pharma.
Do you have any problems with treating Wuhan infected patients with HCQ or Ivermectin?
Have you administered either of the two to your patients? Would you have even been allowed to use them? They have a much better record regarding adverse reactions. Thanks in advance for any comments you may have.
But I disagree with you on Gator's intention to misrepresent me.
What is for sure is that this is a discredited group of alleged physicians who really are not on the front line, and simply advocating for a position that they have no particular expertise in.
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I saw the video of Dr. Gold and she said she was an emergency room doctor (and attorney). She seemed very credible and made what seemed like very good points.
Now you are saying she is ‘discredited’ and an ‘alleged’ physician (you lumped the whole group together). Well, it’s a fact that she is an emergency room doctor so that tells me that you are a liar and a slanderer. Not to mention pretty damn self righteous. And it tells me how much attention I should pay to anything else you post here.
Oh. And do have a blessed weekend.
What is your opinion on this statement from the article?
“Recipient may become more vulnerable to virus
The AFLD White Paper stated that one of the greatest safety concerns relates to how “(p)rior coronavirus (and other respiratory) vaccines have failed due to the scientific phenomena known as pathogenic priming that makes the vaccine recipient more likely to suffer a sudden fatal outcome due to massive cytokine storm when exposed to the wild virus.””
Have been on HCQ+zinc since April, no issues whatsoever. Not even a sniffle. Have travelled, attended indoor events, restaurants, etc. I’ll stick w what I know. No vaccine for me.
You don’t take it. I’ll go with the statistics. Why are some people so credulous as to believe some anti vaxer bs.
STOP CALLING IT A VACCINE!!!
It meets zero thresholds of definition by law and the dictionary. Look to what it does NOT do.
It is a genetic altering injection. Period.
Also. Covid19 has never been isolated in a human. IOW......there is no proof it exists.
Well, how can they create a vaccine for something like this?
Story is China sent a short genetic sequence to CDD. Of a basic common cold. Fake news is of Wuhan residents dying in the streets, wailing heard throughout city at night, (defectors) saying it was genetically modified, blah blah blah.
Fact. No actual evidence of its existence is ever offered. All you get is Cases! Cases! Cases! Of positive PCR (tests), which are not a test at all, and are geared to create panic.
Every look you have seen of this virus is a cartoon rendering, occasionally, they will show a stock photo of the common cold virus that was taken in I believe 1972, but, somehow, the most deadly 99.97% survival rate PANDEMIC ever they cant see it.
It is all BS.
Sorry, should be CDC, not CDD.
Grr..
This ‘Frontline Doctors’ group.......which you seem to dismiss....
....were the ONLY ones I know of who would prescribe Hydroxychloroquine + zinc and Azithromycin !.......during the crucial months when it was prohibited from the citizens of this country!
Dr. Gold IS a physician......she was fired for prescribing this medicine to a patient.
President Trump promoted this medicine, even took some.......so therefore Big Pharma made sure We The People couldn’t get it!.....My own physician joined them!
Yep.
Vaccines are ONLY recommend when no other available options are ready.
In fact, they are illegal.
Why they killed people on purpose by giving them death sentence amounts of this drug in a couple of (studies) at the very outbreak.
The vaccine is the goal.
DO NOT TAKE IT!!!!
Just note the vaccine package labels all say, “Not guaranteed to prevent Covid infection.”
bkmk
This group claims they are frontline doctors. It is inaccurate. They claim the take care of Covid patients everyday, it is inaccurate. They have along them a so called physician who believe totally strange crap. One of their founders is a dentist who is no longer permitted to practice.
The HCQ issues being a different story, the point I am making and please see my above posts is that true is a fringe group and most of us real frontline physician are embarrassed of this Group. Their latest bit on the vaccine is factually inaccurate. Again, please see what I posted from physician new groups and the American academy of family physician.
They are on the whole, complete kooks.
Also, Dr Gold was recently arrested. She likely will not have her license all that much longer
It’s based on questionable data from the original work on the SARS Vaccine in 2002 which is completely different vaccine. It makes no sense. If this vaccine which makes antibodies to Covid 19 causes this kind of vulnerability then every patient who has had the disease is equally vulnerable. As they also make antibodies to a Covid 19 infection.
It is complete and utter nonsense from a scientific point of view
She is not an emergency physician. She is a primary care physician. She is not on the front line. Please see the above articles I have posted.
And my wishes for ebb to have a blessed evening were indeed sincere. Unlike your which appear to be not genuine.
Your problem is. It with me. It is with the facts that this is considered to be a completely fringe groups within the ranks of medicine. Anyone who violates their oath as these physicians currently are doing are indeed pariahs within the field. This groups is disavowed by most of medicine
I have presented data of the same. You simply quote your memory.
You are certainly entitled to your own opinion. I have backed mine up with tangible facts
Have a pleasant morning.
3 of my sisters could not have children because my mother took DES? Heard of it?
How about Thalidomide?
We are experimenting on millions of human beings due to a virus with a 98% survival rate.
We may not know the true consequences for several years.
Thalidomide babies:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=thalidomide+babies&t=chromentp&atb=v134-1&iax=images&ia=images
Please see 38.
Can you promise us with greater than 98% certainty (roughly Covid’s survival rate) that the Covid vaccines will be proven safe in 5 years, sufficient to justify vaccinating millions of people in 2021 with what must only be called experimental drug after a very fast 9 month developmental process?
You are aware that Merck dropped out, and why?
Absolutely I have administered both HCQ and ivermectin. Please recall, sir, that I am an intensive care physician so I am generally dealing with late phase disease.
HCQ and azithromycin are not effective treatments. I saw no results at all. Ivermectin has had some limited use. But in the hospitals where I work it was barred after about three weeks. I raised hell about that under the right to try law but to no avail
Recently I had a hypothetical family member become sick. This family member had severe comorbidities. I immediate hypothetically started he on ivermectin and decadron plus all the vitamins and minerals.
She started to progress toward severe disease. As the still was outpatient and deteriorating we had her dosed with Bamlanivimab (regeneron) and she significantly improved at the 24 hour mark.
I would seriously encourage everyone out there if you have the disease and comorbid conditions to get the monoclonal antibodies without delay. They have a strong ready record and are a targeted treatment for the disease.
I think they are not as objectionable as the vaccine to those who are wary of the vaccine for any reason. It is a strong treatment and the one president Trump had
Once in late phase disease it is a real crap shoot and not a lot works.
I appreciate your question and hope I have provided a reasonable answer.
Have a great morning
If typos please forgive. I am writing from a cell phone.
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