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Is Joe About To Surrender Taiwan To Beijing?
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Posted on 01/24/2021 11:58:59 AM PST by TigerClaws

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To: Mr. Blond

War with Iran? Curious, why do you say that?


81 posted on 01/24/2021 4:23:35 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: servantboy777

It’s the war the Neocons want, but couldn’t get out of Trump.


82 posted on 01/24/2021 4:31:11 PM PST by Mr. Blond
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To: Mr. Blond

Not that I disagree. Thinking now that Iran has begun enriching at higher levels...yea, may be possible. Perhaps Israel with the backing of the U.S..


83 posted on 01/24/2021 4:38:05 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: pepsi_junkie

Of course Taiwan, Hong Kong down the tubes. Thanks to the democRAT assholes that voted for the demented old fool, the bag man for the Chi coms


84 posted on 01/24/2021 4:48:20 PM PST by kenmcg (tHE WHOLE )
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To: servantboy777
Perhaps Israel with the backing of the U.S

In gratitude for all the help they gave us in Iraq and Afghanistan?

85 posted on 01/24/2021 4:50:14 PM PST by Jim Noble (Lo there do I see the line of my people, back to the beginning)
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To: TigerClaws

With Beijing Biden the real worry is how long before he surrenders the U.S?


86 posted on 01/24/2021 4:50:32 PM PST by iontheball
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To: Jim Noble

>>Perhaps Israel with the backing of the U.S
In gratitude for all the help they gave us in Iraq and Afghanistan?<<

Israeli intelligence was/is invaluable. God bless the nation of Israel.


87 posted on 01/24/2021 5:01:29 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: 17th Miss Regt

I wonder if Taiwan anticipated the US giving up on them and if the have WMD capability in their back pockets. They likely have the technical capabilities.


88 posted on 01/24/2021 5:02:00 PM PST by organicchemist (Without the second amendment, the first amendment is just talk)
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To: rockrr

You won the award for the best post on this thread. Show the contestant what he won Alex!


89 posted on 01/24/2021 5:14:11 PM PST by wjcsux (“You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him.” )
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To: riverdawg

Yes, the Vietnamese will fight, and fight well. But China does not care about taking casualties; we did when we were in Vietnam. So, right off the bat China has the numerical edge. Plus, China is just itching to use their new toys, and it is a lot easier to deploy them against a neighbor with whom you share a border (though, granted, not a very long border) than to move them across seas to another hemisphere.


90 posted on 01/24/2021 5:26:35 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: cba123

“Vietnam and China have a long, long history, but I honestly don’t think the two countries will fight again.”

I guess we’ll see.


91 posted on 01/24/2021 5:27:46 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: elcid1970

Regardless of the reason, you acknowledge they have never declared independence.

I married into a Chinese family, which had migrated to Taiwan and then the US. The way they look at things is...

the indigenous population of Taiwan are inferior humans

the population of America — they call it ‘mei goa’ or ‘beautiful land’ - well, that population is inferior and lazy as well

they consider themselves the rightful rulers of mainland China as well as Taiwan

they look at us as stupid warriors

they are more Chinese than loyal American

they are afraid of civil war but are willing to let Americans fight it for them

Hence, because they have such a large numerical presence in Formosa, they have blocked Taiwan independence.


92 posted on 01/24/2021 5:37:03 PM PST by Kevmo (I'm in a slow motion Red Dawn reality TV show. The tree of liberty is thirsty.)
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To: kanawa

There used to be some kind of Pan-Asia alliance. Don’t be surprised if it forms again, without us. Japan & the Phillipines will join.

The reason the Vietnamese didn’t trust us was because of our white faces. Same with Koreans, same with Philippines, same with all the Asians perhaps including India.

The bible predicts a 200 million man army , ‘the kings of the east’.


93 posted on 01/24/2021 5:37:03 PM PST by Kevmo (I'm in a slow motion Red Dawn reality TV show. The tree of liberty is thirsty.)
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To: ought-six

4) It’s not like America is gonna come to the aid of a former communist enemy responsible for 60k American deaths.
5) Largest warm water port in the region.
6) Good practice run. Bloody the troops a bit before the real battle.
7) Revenge for the 1979 loss/standoff.
8) Make it look more like an attempt at regional hegemony rather than global.


94 posted on 01/24/2021 5:37:03 PM PST by Kevmo (I'm in a slow motion Red Dawn reality TV show. The tree of liberty is thirsty.)
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To: napscoordinator

“ And, what is coming next should scare you even more”

The US has recognized Taiwan as a province of China since 1982. That’s 38 years. I have no interest in how China is governed or organized. Zero.

If China wants to absorb Taiwan that will happen. It would happen whoever is President of the US.

It’s just not our affair.


95 posted on 01/24/2021 5:47:46 PM PST by Jim Noble (Lo there do I see the line of my people, back to the beginning)
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To: organicchemist
I wonder if Taiwan anticipated the US giving up on them and if the have WMD capability in their back pockets. They likely have the technical capabilities.

Very possibly. They have been acutely aware of this in the last 12 or so years as they saw what Obama was like and now they see what Biden is like. If Red China attacks, the Three Gorges Dam will be likely be attacked.

96 posted on 01/24/2021 6:11:12 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: TigerClaws

Right now I’m more concerned over the death of our republic.


97 posted on 01/24/2021 6:17:46 PM PST by Pining_4_TX (We Must All Hang Together, or Most Assuredly, We Will All Hang Separately ~ Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Jim Noble

Not our affair, but will have a lot of bad repercussions. Taiwan has survived because of our support, real or not. Its like missile defence. If you don’t have it, you don’t have it when you need it. If you have it, you likely won’t need it.


98 posted on 01/24/2021 7:20:39 PM PST by Western Phil
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To: TigerClaws

I don’t doubt China’s belligerence and Joe’s pre-paid acquiescence. But is this a done deal? A few things stand out:

If it pulls the trigger,China will only be able to rely on a handful of dubious allies: North Korea, Iran, maybe Cuba and Venezuela, and possibly Pakistan. Could Turkey drift into their orbit?

On the other hand it is surrounded by South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, India, Mongolia and Russia. They would also be opposed by the EU, Australia, Israel and the Mid-east oil producing states. These nations would view the seizure with alarm.

Finally, China’s history has been insular and closed. Colonial or expansionist adventures, rare throughout its history, have availed them little.

I think if China, with relatively few friends, faced a committed resistance it would back down

“If” is a big word.I’m trying to calm myself down from thinking over this. I recently discovered the speech attributed to a mid-level General said to be given in 2005:

https://jrnyquist.blog/2019/09/11/the-secret-speech-of-general-chi-haotian/

I haven’t been able to verify it, if anyone has any info please post it.


99 posted on 01/24/2021 9:14:46 PM PST by tsomer
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To: MercyFlush

Nothing really, but I was making a point that just about any country will feel they can push Biden around.


100 posted on 01/25/2021 4:59:32 AM PST by Texas resident (Biden is China's bitch)
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