Posted on 01/21/2021 5:20:54 AM PST by karpov
90%+ of incumbents win their primaries. Then what? We’ve got to play by GOPe rules now. That means voting for Democrats when a Quisling Republican is on our ballot. Right now that would be any elected Republican who voted for McCarthy and McConnell for leadership. They must go. All of them.
“The Patriot Party, here we come!”
This Rove piece proves it. It’s the same bromides as after every GOP loss (‘92, ‘96, ‘02, ‘06, ‘08, ‘12, ‘18), with some added lies about Proud Boys and “militias” and Sidney Powell.
Conservative Third party has always been perilous, but Trump/2020 has uncovered the GOP’s betrayal for certain. No more insanity.
If a party cannot unify around the most basic of all rights and successfully restore that right then they are worthless. Republicans are worthless. Their future is bleak.
“...and the third is a group (militia types) of secessionists and extremists.”
Not how he throws in people (sucessionists) who want one thing - to have this country run according to its constitution, whether that be the USA or a new entity. And note how he considers ANYONE talking about sucession as ‘militia types’, even though there are plenty of example of peaceful separation of territories in recent history, throughout the world (with the Soviet Union and Czechoslovakia being just 2 of them).
Now that they are comfortably in the minority again, the GOP will start talking conservatism for fundraising purposes. It is their MO. The unofficial slogan of the GOP is, "Words not Deeds."
"If only we can win back the house..."; "Now that we have the house, we need the senate to truly implement our agenda..." etc.
It has always worked for them in the past, and then when the grass roots gives them what they ask for, they are like the dog that finally caught the car he has been chasing for years, and has no clue what to do with it. I think, hope and pray that this time it is different. Grass root conservatives need to stop sending money to the fraudulent scam known as the GOP.
There is no Republican future.
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Neither in the party or Rove. Just not salvageable and lacks credibility. The Titanic is in better shape.
“Republican party is dead.”
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No. The Republican party is deep state. It is a part of the swamp. It is a political show to fool us, as long as we allow ourselves to be fooled. And so many are fooled.
Third parties don’t win elections. It is far too late for that.
Agree with you. I am no longer a republican. It doesn’t even deserve a capital R.... I look forward to voting against them all on the state/federal level. Locally, all of the Republicans are huge Trump supporters. State..... not sure- federal- all snakes- Braun is going down next election cycle. It can’t come soon enough
FU Rove. The GOP is dead.
If it forms, I will transfer my membership.
There’s a great analysis here on why McConnell prefers being the minority leader.
The GOP is more dangerous than the Democrat party. It’s time to face this.
You cannot continue to fund an organization that flat out lies to it’s members and then nakedly works against their interests.
That’s the most refreshing thing that happened in the last four years - it’s no longer a theory. The entire party structure is designed to work as faux opposition to the Democrats that are naked about their agenda.
It needs to be faced. It should be starved out of existence, but corporations will prop it up until the GOP can’t get anybody elected. The D’s need some sort of fake opposition for the next two years. It’ll take about that long to lock it all down sufficiently.
A reading of the comments on this thread makes it clear that the overwhelming opinion is that the Republican Party must be abandoned because it cannot be reformed. I am reluctantly inclined to agree.
It is not easy to set up a new national political party in the American system which is a Winner take all game incentivizing one party or the other to swallow upstarts. We all know the history of the Whigs in 1856 and the subsequent bloodiest war in American history.
Our chances today are perhaps even worse than the Republicans of 1858 and 1860 when they elected Abraham Lincoln. We conservatives hold not one consequential institution of American life. The hard truth is the left dominates them all. The harder truth is they will be ruthless in their dominion. The Whigs, at least, had the momentum generated by the insuperable high moral ground caused by slavery.
To form a new party we need two things: a charismatic leader and an overwhelming moral factor.
That’s right; the “future” of the Republican Party was doomed when they wouldn’t support Trump’s agenda - from the very onset, when they wouldn’t overturn ObamaCare (after pledging for years to do so). They then stalled any attempts at border or immigration controls, and refused to defend him against bizarre, empty assaults from the Dems.
Now that he is safely removed, the enemedia is actually starting to give Trump credit for at least the “Pax Trumpicana” - now new endless wars, and scaling down of those he inherited.
The GOP is dead to me.
Bump!
F the GOP, it's MAGA or bust.
If a party cannot unify around the most basic of all rights and successfully restore that right then they are worthless. Republicans are worthless. Their future is bleak.
The GOP gave the Dems a mulligan to defeat Trump and now they want us to give them a mulligan for that too. Yeah, no thanks. It’s time for GOP voters to play by GOPe rules now.
Yeah. Karl Rove. That’s the answer.
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