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Virginia General Assembly Considers Legalizing Marijuana
NBC4 Washington ^ | January 19, 2021 | Drew Wilder

Posted on 01/20/2021 9:27:53 AM PST by NobleFree

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To: MikeyB806
I never understand why dope users are such big fans of legalization.

You'd have to ask a dope user. I support legalization because the primary effect of criminalization is to give violent criminals a profitable monopoly on the marijuana market, to the detriment of us all - and because marijuana sale and use do not in and of themseles violate any rights, and so are not any of government's proper business.

61 posted on 01/20/2021 10:58:47 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Shadylake
You sound like someone haunted by a lot of demons and have a serious history/current substance abuse problem.

No "demons", but I've left all substance use in the past and am better off for it. What's your point?

62 posted on 01/20/2021 11:00:10 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

Dopers, like most leftists, like to point to a lack of research papers as proof of anything. It’s like the lack of papers proving that man-made climate change is a myth.

Sorry, we have enough legal crutches for societal losers. Drink up. For those who have no self-control, keep doing you’re pathetic mind altering substances in the shadows. ANd I’m a former recreational drug user.


63 posted on 01/20/2021 11:01:01 AM PST by MikeyB806
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To: NobleFree

You should certainly be against easier access to drugs, you seem to be obsessed and from admission have substance abuse issues.

If anything, I’d think you’d want less legal access to them. Maybe you have no sense though.


64 posted on 01/20/2021 11:02:44 AM PST by Shadylake
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To: MikeyB806
like to point to a lack of research papers as proof of anything.

Wrong as usual - the lack of proof is cited as a lack of proof.

It’s like the lack of papers proving that man-made climate change is a myth.

Man-made climate change is a myth because the papers saying otherwise have been shown to be flawed - very much like many papers alleging grave harms from marijuana.

Sorry, we have enough legal crutches for societal losers.

How do you know we have enough, rather than too many or too few?

65 posted on 01/20/2021 11:05:11 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

Drugs, Gambling, cigs, booze, etc. If it can be taxed, it will be legalized eventually.

And once a state gets on the tax train, it can’t get off, it can only raise existing taxes and add more new ones.


66 posted on 01/20/2021 11:07:50 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Donald J. Trump is the rightful President of the USA and his own party won't admit that.)
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To: Shadylake
You should certainly be against easier access to drugs,

Pot criminalization does much more to enrich violent criminals than to reduce access - you should be against that as am I.

from admission have substance abuse issues.

Plenty of FReepers are acknowledged recovering alcoholics; what's your point?

67 posted on 01/20/2021 11:07:59 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

I’m a former dope user, and I know lots of people whose lives were effed up by doing drugs. Let the criminal element exist; let the criminals kill one another.

Today’s mj is a horrible drug, so much like harder drugs that it will inevitably lead to harder drugs. YOu don’t need a research study to know this.

More users, more car accidents, more high school and college drop-outs. FDA won’t approve new drugs without years of safety data; for loser dopers, our government is going to approve a drug that cannot be withdrawn (like alcohol). Once you start feeding the beast, you can’t go back.

It’s a shame that Prohibition didn’t work; we’d have a more productive society.


68 posted on 01/20/2021 11:08:02 AM PST by MikeyB806
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To: NobleFree

“Plenty of FReepers are acknowledged recovering alcoholics; what’s your point?”

I’ve never seen an ex or even current alcoholic rampaging like you about how great it would be to legalize it more. Not even hardcore DUI maniancs are as delusional as you. Troll.


69 posted on 01/20/2021 11:09:48 AM PST by Shadylake
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To: Fai Mao

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70 posted on 01/20/2021 11:12:10 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Donald J. Trump is the rightful President of the USA and his own party won't admit that.)
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To: MikeyB806
Let the criminal element exist; let the criminals kill one another.

They don't kill only each other - they victimize many innocents.

Today’s mj is a horrible drug, so much like harder drugs that it will inevitably lead to harder drugs.

Nonsense - it's a more concentrated version of the same active ingredient, like Everclear versus beer.

It’s a shame that Prohibition didn’t work

Its failure was inherent in its nature, as with marijuana prohibition.

71 posted on 01/20/2021 11:12:13 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Shadylake
rampaging like you

You're projecting, noob.

72 posted on 01/20/2021 11:13:21 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree
Man-made climate change is a myth because the papers saying otherwise have been shown to be flawed And yet, the government says differently; because money. Eff the "research" or lack thereof. Witness the inner city drug losers and look at our future. Keep it illegal; make it hard to get and out of the sights of the kids as much as possible. Otherwise, we'll just have more people incapable of holding a job and being productive members of society.
73 posted on 01/20/2021 11:15:08 AM PST by MikeyB806
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To: MikeyB806
Keep it illegal; make it hard to get and out of the sights of the kids as much as possible.

Keeping it illegal has failed in this goal; since well before any state legalized, kids have reported that they could get pot almost as easily as beer or cigarettes, despite the latter drugs being severalfold more widely used by adults. This evidence indicates that the better way of keeping a drug away from kids is to legalize it for adults only, thus giving sellers an economic incentive to not sell to kids.

74 posted on 01/20/2021 11:19:49 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree
Nonsense - it's a more concentrated version of the same active ingredient Since you're not a drug user, let me educate you because I couldn't find a research paper that says that one hit of the concentrated stuff gives a high that is unattainable from smoking leaf. Bad stuff. Easy to get messed up. Prohibition failed because the country had become reliant on it, economically and culturally. Losers. Much better to be clear-minded, and better for society to be the same.
75 posted on 01/20/2021 11:21:42 AM PST by MikeyB806
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To: SaxxonWoods

We are already there.


76 posted on 01/20/2021 11:21:54 AM PST by Fai Mao (Biden is a pedophile, Kamala is a slut.)
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To: napscoordinator
Why not. A lot of states have.

Because those states, California, Colorado, etc are not what we aspire to. Of course you could argue Virginia is pretty far gone and you would be right.

77 posted on 01/20/2021 11:23:41 AM PST by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: NobleFree
Keeping it illegal has failed in this goal You don't know this until you legalize. Fact is, kids experiment with it, but many are uncomfortable with it because of its illegality. I didn't smoke pot for 25 years until med mj became available. And that was a but of a hassle because I wasn't a legal user and had to go through someone. Would I do more if I could obtain it easily and legally? Nah, I'm not a loser or subject to addictions. Just wanted to try it. Many lack my strong will.
78 posted on 01/20/2021 11:26:19 AM PST by MikeyB806
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To: NobleFree

Just legalize it nationwide, tax it, regulate it (much like booze) and be done with it. You don’t like it, don’t smoke it, you don’t like booze, don’t drink it but stop this pointless bickering


79 posted on 01/20/2021 11:27:08 AM PST by The Louiswu (Dylan is right once more...”The times, they are a changing”)
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To: palmer

The blue states have almost entirely gone this legalization route, Oregon really going for it with legalizing all. They may be leftist as hell, but dammit you’re going to see that propaganda pushed on here as well.


80 posted on 01/20/2021 11:27:13 AM PST by Shadylake
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