Robert G. DamusAssociate Administrator for Space Science
Posted on 01/19/2021 4:47:21 AM PST by OneVike
This thread was posted back in December of 2000. I found it on the internet archive wayback machine web site. It's pertinent to todays news, because in 2 days SCOTUS would declare the Florida vote count over, and thus Bush would be the next President.
Today Donald Trump will leaving in a few days and the left is freaked out over the many pardons and executive orders He may sign. Well, here was Clinton doing what the left is trying to stop Trump from doing. It's a great read, especially the comments by the Freepers, manor whom are no longer around.
It's a hit an miss as to which links work. After all the thread is 21 years old. Remember, this is an old archive that is no longer on FreeRepublics archive system. That's because after FR lost it's lawsuit by many MSM outlets, the court ordered Jim stop allowing us to post full articles, and he had to scrub everything prior to the ruling from their archive system. So everything prior to about the time of the 9/11 attack is gone. Well thank God for the Wayback Machine
Clinton Cranks Out Last-Minute Executive Orders
INSIGHT MAGAZINE
By Sean Paige
December 11, 2000
Everything else about the Clinton administration has been strangely backward, so one shouldn't be surprised that this particular White House has saved the most controversial remnants of its agenda--the radical items that the president and his Cabinet couldn't or wouldn't try foisting off on the American people in the first seven years--for its frenetic final days.
Hundreds of executive orders and federal regulations both costly and controversial have been held by the administration for implementation until this, its 11th hour, when the risk of political backlash is minimal and Congress is in no position to raise much of a fuss. This holiday season will seem like a "miracle on Pennsylvania Avenue" for Democratic Party constituencies to whom a pander or two are owed, as Bill Clinton, playing Santa Claus, empties the goody bag of going-away presents.
It began weeks ago, with the Food and Drug Administration's approval, in the midst of the election campaign, of RU-486, the so-called abortion pill. In a bow to animal-rights fanatics, the Department of Agriculture then made new rules granting civil rights to lab rats--much to the chagrin of medical researchers, who said the new rules would bog them down in whirlwinds of paperwork and possibly slow the march of science. The president, using his preferred method of governance, issued executive orders that would guarantee translation services for federal-program beneficiaries who don't speak English--creating a logistical nightmare for government field offices--and another that would boost Hispanic hiring by the federal government according to quotalike goals.
But that was only the beginning of the administration's grand finale. Once Congress was effectively sidelined and the public distracted by the vote-count carnival in Florida, the Occupational Safety and Health Administration moved to finalize new workplace ergonomic standards that many businesses and industries oppose, saying they will require monumental workplace overhauls and reduce worker productivity. In all, they will add nearly 1,700 new pages to the Federal Register and cost industry (and, indirectly, consumers) as much as $100 billion.
Throwing another bone to the labor unions, the administration also is rushing to ram through new federal government-contracting rules that will allow the blacklisting of contractors that are deemed antiunion or environmentally incorrect. And a news set of criteria will limit competition, make the contracting decisions of federal personnel vastly more complicated and give labor unions and environmentalists veto power over federal-contracting decisions.
Also recently, the U.S. Forest Service published the final version of its roadless initiative, a measuring sparking heated controversy in the rural West, where 60 million acres of purportedly "public" land will become de facto wilderness and off-limits to resource development--all without a word from Congress, yea or nay. Of course, in reality, the initiative is as much about blocking timber harvesting and public access as it is about blocking roads. And the measure is being hastened along despite last summer's fiery testimonials affirming the necessity of better human management of tinderbox Western forests, including manual thinning.
Following the recommendation of Interior Secretary Bruce Babbitt, who is desperate to lock away his beloved West from everyone but wealthy eco-elitists like himself, Clinton seemed to be announcing a new national monument or two every week, often over the protests of people and officials in the states directly affected, casting himself as the greatest conservationist since Teddy Roosevelt.
When not issuing executive orders, the administration has been wearing out the presses printing new regulations in the Federal Register. The Environmental Protection Agency, for instance, recently provided Congress a catalog of 88 new regulations it hoped to finalize before the fat lady sings the Clinton era to a close. Many of these "midnight regulations" are considered significant, entailing potential economic impacts of at least $100 million.
Previous administrations have engaged in similar legacy-building orgies before leaving town--most notably, the administration of President Carter, which rushed through so many new regulations before Reaganauts stormed the ramparts that the Federal Register couldn't print them fast enough. But the Clinton White House is poised to shatter all previous midnight-regulating records, according to a recent study by George Mason University's Mercatus Center--and probably bt a large margin. (Readers interested in learning more about "midnight regs" can do so by visiting the Mercatus Center's Website at www.regradar.org.)
The next president, whomever he may be, will have a limited ability to reverse some of the most ill-considered of the last-minute laws, as Ronald Reagan did with some of Carter's. But most new presidents are usually too interested in making a good first impression with the public to begin their tenure by taking a wrecking ball to the last official acts of a predecessor--even one as desperate to leave his muddy boot prints on the political bed as Clinton is.
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Clinton To Govern By Executive Order
EXECUTIVE ORDER 13083 And Our Freedom - Both Parties Were Going To Finish You Off
AMERICA - A Fascilist Country? - Major Landgrabs
Robert G. Damus
Associate Administrator for Space Science
Robert G. Damus significantly contributed to enactment of the first balanced budget in 30 years and was a leader in involving stakeholders in successful management of Federal budget issues. Mr. Damus is the recognized leader in the Executive Branch in devising and negotiating effective and innovative budget control legislation, including the major deficit reductions laws of 1993 and 1995, as well as the landmark Balanced Budget Act of 1997. Mr. Damus is also in charge of all orders signed by the President, and has been a leader in creative use of Presidential orders to carry out Administration policy.
The "Something" Undermining Our Nation
COVERUP BY CONGRESS - Feds Close IRSgate, Filegate, Livingstonegate
AN IRRESPONSIBLE CONGRESS - Treason Is OK
EXECUTIVE ORDERS
Executive Orders Declaring National Emergencies
Understanding Executive Orders - Must See
Executive Orders and other documents
Executive Orders Declaring National Emergencies
President William J. Clinton's Executive Orders
The Hidden Power of the Presidency
Clinton to Govern by Executive Order
Presidential Decision Directive #63 - (PDD 63)
Presidential Decision Directive #25 - (PDD 25)
House Resolution Challenges Constitutionality of Executive Orders
Congress challenge to national IDs, executive orders - Barr, Paul spearhead legislation
Clinton's Power Grab Through Executive Orders
Advancing N.W.O. with Executive Orders (abuse of powers )
A Tale of Three Executive Orders
President plans blitz of executive orders
EMERGENCY POWERS of the President
Executive Orders & Clinton's Use of Them - Joel Hefley - Congressman
EXECUTIVE ORDERS & the 10 PLANKS OF THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO
EXECUTIVE ORDERS USHERING IN SOCIALIST DICTATORSHIP
Executive Orders: How the Clintons Dusted Off a 35 Year Old Book on How to Govern Without Congress
Executive Orders: Bonfire for the Constitution
EXECUTIVE ORDERS - World In Review - Dr. John Coleman
Congress Must Deal With Executive Orders
EXEC ORDERS/TREASON/CHANGING THE WAY OUR GOV'T WORKS
Rep. Metcalf-"Presidential Executive Orders Eroding Congressional Authority"
The Failure of Congress to Challenge Clinton’s Executive Orders
Restricting the Executive Orders - Ron Paul
Emergency Rule, Abuse of Power?
Clinton's executive orders still are packing a punch
Courage to Fight Executive Orders
Clinton's executive orders sweeping, controversial
Restricting the Executive Orders
Executive orders go too far? - Hatch Thinks Clinton Has Gone Too Far(HaHa)
Executive Orders Meet Separation of Powers Act - Ron Paul
Inside Politics / King of the Hill (Executive Orders)
EXECUTIVE ORDERS AND REGULATIONS
The Impact of Executive Orders on the Legislative Process
The Imperial Presidency - Overturning the power of Executive Orders
Executive Orders: H.Con.Res.30 Testimony
Congressional Responses to Executive Orders
BARR TESTIFIES FOR LIMITS ON EXECUTIVE ORDERS
Ron Paul Bill Will Stop President From Abuse of Executive Orders
Two U.S. House subcommittees hold hearings - No Democrats Show Up
Executive Orders and the Demise of Liberty
Are Clinton's 'Executive Orders' Legal?
Clinton to Bypass the Congress and the US Constitution again with Executive Orders..Land Grab!!!
Executive Orders: A Blueprint for Dictatorship?
Clinton to use Executive Orders for GUN CONTROL
"Stroke of the pen, law of the land. Kind of cool." - Paul Begala
"The Fall of the Republic"
1 Posted on 12/03/2000 01:43:31 PST by Uncle Bill
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bump
2 Posted on 12/03/2000 01:46:14 PST by t-shirt
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Bookmarking this!
3 Posted on 12/03/2000 01:52:05 PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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What is needed to back these orders out? Can Bush do that with a countermanding order, once seated as President? if he can, are we determined to hold his feet to the fire to do so?
4 Posted on 12/03/2000 01:52:57 PST by drlevy88
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The next president, whomever he may be, will have a limited ability to reverse some of the most ill-considered of the last-minute laws, as Ronald Reagan did with some of Carter's. But most new presidents are usually too interested in making a good first impression with the public to begin their tenure by taking a wrecking ball to the last official acts of a predecessor--even one as desperate to leave his muddy boot prints on the political bed as Clinton is.
Especially with Daschle screaming bloody-murder in a 50/50 senate.
That answer your question?
5 Posted on 12/03/2000 01:57:38 PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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.......another classic Uncle Bill
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6 Posted on 12/03/2000 02:04:39 PST by Elle Bee
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George Bush can get rid of all of them. He won't get rid of any. He'll be too afraid. The press will jump on him. Clinton will grab the nearest microphone if Bush tries to touch any of this. The wimps in Congress won't do anything because the American people are asleep, despite what people think now, they're still asleep for the most part. Congress could and should get rid of the entire executive order scheme. The American people, even the ones toiling away with their remote control that think executive orders is a new movie coming out on DVD will be sorry when that night comes. And it is coming. They don't do this just to bypass Congress. They have other reasons. Americans will find this out. Actually, they don't even need executive orders. Clinton and Martial Law It doesn't matter that Y2K is past and Clinton slithers out to Hollywood. The pieces are still in place for the one who will use them.
7 Posted on 12/03/2000 02:06:06 PST by Uncle Bill
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Can Bush do that with a countermanding order, once seated as President?
I believe there was a thread at the beginning of the Clinton hegemony discussing the Reagan and Bush EOs that he had rescinded. Bush may not be able to rescind anything in the first 6-9 months while he generates support for his presidency, but I would expect he'd be strong later on and here's why:
I believe W understands that the dems cannot be placated but only defeated. He's extended the olive branch to several of them and they've refused it.
George Sr. learned (too late) that the dems extend the right hand of fellowship while holding a dagger in the left. I don't think that lesson has been lost on W.
Finally, James Baker has learned the same lesson as G. Sr. and, as we all have learned, has acted on it. This is war.
8 Posted on 12/03/2000 02:06:15 PST by Dataman
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If these are all EOs, an incoming president can veto each and all or just some of them and it has been done. If he fails to do so, then they are "law" until some future president vetoes them. EOs have to be curtailed by Congress, have to be, because it's ruling by fiat. Someone tell me that's constitional.
9 Posted on 12/03/2000 02:07:16 PST by EastCoast
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Thanks so much! Tell everybody you know to get rid of these things! I know it won't happen, but we can still keep on trying. 8-)
10 Posted on 12/03/2000 02:08:13 PST by Uncle Bill
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I mentioned here several times that he was going to do it before he left. It's unconstitutional and a tragedy for Americans and the Republic. Dataman, I hope you're right, but he'll have to do it right away. I don't think he'll do anything but perhaps massage a few things. All I asked several months ago was for some reporter to ask Bush what he thought of executive orders and what he would do about them, etc. As far as I know, he never got that one question. It's amazing to watch this legislation by fiat without a whimper from the American people. I don't know how closely folks read the article above, but if a person is a contractor, and they deem you unacceptable because of your feelings on unions and environmental issues they can tell you to take a hike. Fascism.
11 Posted on 12/03/2000 02:17:05 PST by Uncle Bill
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A masterpiece, as always...There isn't much time left.
12 Posted on 12/03/2000 02:32:00 PST by Lion's Cub
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Thanks so much. It draws near my friend.
Executive Orders - A Blueprint for Dictatorship?
13 Posted on 12/03/2000 02:35:28 PST by Uncle Bill
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"Someone tell me that's constitutional"
Hi Eastcoast. As you know, it's not. I would like to issue just two more. One to get rid of all of these pukes. Two, to get rid of executive orders.
History of the National Security Council 1947-1997
Executive Orders And Laws relating to National Emergencies Laws
Numerical Listing of Presidential Executive Orders Available Electronically
14 Posted on 12/03/2000 02:56:38 PST by Uncle Bill
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W will NOT be afraid. He will do what is right for America.
15 Posted on 12/03/2000 03:00:25 PST by Robert_Paulson2
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Executive Orders and the Demise of Liberty - James L. Hirsen, J.D., Ph.D. - November 12, 1999
By-Passing Congress - Clinton's Executive Orders
Executive Orders about Advisory Committees and Commissions
16 Posted on 12/03/2000 03:07:32 PST by Uncle Bill
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Hi Bob. Define what is right for America? You mean get rid of executive orders since its unconstitutional, right?
17 Posted on 12/03/2000 03:09:27 PST by Uncle Bill
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Thanks for the links. Didn't realise Olson had testified before congress on this. Since he obviously has W's ear right now, maybe he can help in this matter if we prevail.
18 Posted on 12/03/2000 03:28:53 PST by Lion's Cub
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"Tell everybody you know to get rid of these things! I know it won't happen, but we can still keep on trying." 8-)
Not to worry, Uncle Bill, my computer whiz son & I deleted them all this morning! :-)
19 Posted on 12/03/2000 03:52:13 PST by Hanging chads cause dimples (in the next ballot in the deck during machine counting)
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Maybe you're confusing William Olson (the one who writes about EOs) with Ted Olson, the one who is fighting for W at the Supreme Court?
20 Posted on 12/03/2000 04:43:06 PST by Pamela
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You are right. When I saw that William Olson was a Consitutional lawyer, I jumped to a conclusion. Bad move. Thanks for straightening it out...
21 Posted on 12/03/2000 05:04:53 PST by Lion's Cub
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Great post. Great links. Many thanks - bookmarked it. Lots of projects to work on here, tremendous amount of work to do killing all these things.
22 Posted on 12/03/2000 05:46:29 PST by XBob
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Presidents don't work for the American people, they work for the elites who control our country and want world rule. Bush is going to push us further into the control of the UN, just like any democrat or republican would do.
The only way to stop or slow down this desent is to vote for third party candidates, you know the ones most American's call "Losers". America has been losing for a long time now and unless voters change their way of thinking we will continue towards the largest socialist government in history. And probably the bloodiest.
23 Posted on 12/03/2000 06:17:46 PST by Eustace
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bump for later use
24 Posted on 12/03/2000 06:21:19 PST by Betteboop
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Every last EO needs to be repealed by Bush.
25 Posted on 12/03/2000 06:22:58 PST by Lazamataz
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Leave it the liberals to give more civil rights to lab rats and criminals than to law-abiding citizens.
26 Posted on 12/03/2000 06:30:05 PST by bloodmeridian
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Uncle Bill bump!
27 Posted on 12/03/2000 06:55:15 PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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I did too. I thought it was odd when all of us were asked at work if we need any new chairs and whatever. I replied smiling is OSHA back? Then I happened to read about Clinton's midnight executive orders. Bingo, OSHA is back. Hopefully Bush will get rid of them. And just maybe Congress will find a backbone and start acting like our ELECTED representatives.
28 Posted on 12/03/2000 08:27:47 PST by freekitty
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This is a keeper...Thanks.
29 Posted on 12/03/2000 08:36:01 PST by jellybean
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Another masterpiece, Uncle Bill. Thanks.
Heads up, to the rest o' ya.
30 Posted on 12/03/2000 08:41:37 PST by logos
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Fine post!
31 Posted on 12/03/2000 08:50:51 PST by SuperLuminal
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....while I take a Clinton!32 Posted on 12/03/2000 08:54:19 PST by jetson
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"Especially with Daschle screaming bloody-murder in a 50/50 senate."
I think New York needs a recount.
33 Posted on 12/03/2000 08:59:03 PST by Michael Rivero
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The democraps are dreaming again, Bush will whack off the executive orders just as fast as Sick Willie put them in. That is just plain on democrap BS that the new president will be timid about throwing out the trash that the trashy Clinton admin. put in.
34 Posted on 12/03/2000 09:03:38 PST by Texbob
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I take it you didn't read my #5......
35 Posted on 12/03/2000 09:06:18 PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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Uncle Bill- Well I guess it will be up to the American people to make things right, Do you think they are up to it?
36 Posted on 12/03/2000 09:16:59 PST by Lizzy 65
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37 Posted on 12/03/2000 09:28:31 PST by AnnaZ
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Every last EO needs to be repealed by Bush.
Ref: Uncle Bill's post #7...
...think he'll do it?
38 Posted on 12/03/2000 09:54:19 PST by Mercuria
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The American people, even the ones toiling away with their remote control that think executive orders is a new movie coming out on DVD
Too funny.
39 Posted on 12/03/2000 09:58:12 PST by patriot x
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Kudos for your fine efforts...thanks appreciate it all.
I too feel that Bush is too much of a compromiser, that he will not lead but defer.
To rescind all of Clinton's 11th hour EO's, Bush needs to make a case before the American people. Bush needs to present the situation that it it patently disingenuous, dishonorable that Clinton, at the 11th hour, under the view of Congress, writes these EO's that will effectively hamstring the incoming administration. Bush needs to present to the American populace the total ramifications of all these EO's.
It can be done, though it will take a carefully worded speech, presented in an earnest, sincere manner. Hell get Dr. Alan Keyes to contribute.
40 Posted on 12/03/2000 10:10:19 PST by Stand Watch Listen
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Throwing another bone to the labor unions, the administration also is rushing to ram through new federal government-contracting rules that will allow the blacklisting of contractors that are deemed antiunion or environmentally incorrect. And a news set of criteria will limit competition, make the contracting decisions of federal personnel vastly more complicated and give labor unions and environmentalists veto power over federal-contracting decisions.
This seems to say something is coming up, not that it has been signed. Do you keep track of EO's ? Could you direct me to on eon this topic, either now or when it is issued ?
Thanks
41 Posted on 12/03/2000 10:19:57 PST by Leper Messiah
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Hold on kids, the nightmare is almost over!!!
42 Posted on 12/03/2000 10:24:41 PST by HangFire
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"Do you keep track of EO's ? Could you direct me to on eon this topic, either now or when it is issued ?"
Reagan still holds the record for most EO's issued / year. Clinton has a way to go, about 38 needed to tie. :)
'Recent' EO's can be found at:
NARA: Executive Orders - Disposition Tables - January 24, 1953 -- November 27, 2000
43 Posted on 12/03/2000 10:28:22 PST by Tickle Me Pank
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"Every last EO needs to be repealed by Bush." -- Lazamataz
Wanna bet that none of them will be repealed by any president-elect?
44 Posted on 12/03/2000 10:36:47 PST by Buckeroo (gibraltar@discover.net)
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I will hold the Republicans responsible if these executive orders are not repealed or nullified.
45 Posted on 12/03/2000 10:43:44 PST by dr_who
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Bump for further study post.
46 Posted on 12/03/2000 10:49:22 PST by Dog Gone
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Excellent post! Thank you. BTTT!
47 Posted on 12/03/2000 10:53:26 PST by Ms. AntiFeminazi
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48 Posted on 12/03/2000 10:55:29 PST by Ms. AntiFeminazi
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Pardon me while I take a Clinton!
Make sure you wipe your Clymer! Don't want any hanging chads you know.
49 Posted on 12/03/2000 11:09:23 PST by Nateman
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A POLICE STATE OF YOUR VERY OWN, COURTESY OF YOUR US SENATE
EO 13083 - OBSCENE POWER GRAB (My title - A MUST READ)
H.R. 4210, A REIGN OF TERROR - Which future will you choose?
50 Posted on 12/03/2000 11:15:45 PST by Ms. AntiFeminazi
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I did read your #5 and disagree with you. You must think the minority demcraps in congress even though narrow are going to rule the roost. No way.
51 Posted on 12/03/2000 11:16:19 PST by Texbob
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THE WAR ON PRIVACY: NEWS FROM THE FRONT
INTERNATIONAL VERSION OF "KNOW YOUR CUSTOMER" (HR 3886/S. 2972)
bump
52 Posted on 12/03/2000 11:22:09 PST by Ms. AntiFeminazi
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You must think the minority demcraps in congress even though narrow are going to rule the roost. No way.
I don't want to start a flame war so I just say this. For the past six years we've had a majority in the House and the Dems have "ruled the roost". And the senate? That's a laugh! Lott lets Dascle walk all over him now, just wait 'til it's really 50/50 (107th CONgress).
Lott, Hastert and the rest of the tragic traitors will have to start wearing industrial-grade adult diapers. Not to mention the wear-resistant knee-pads. Little Dick Gephardt was on Meet the Depressed this AM trying to calmly explain how they planned to castrate Bush, they are sharpening the knife as we speak. He could barely contain his glee. BTW, you guessed it, I did "read between the lines". Gephardt never tells the truth so one has to concentrate on how he speaks.
No flame intended but I think you are disillusioned. I hope you're right about Bush scrapping all of these EOs, really I do. But I think its a monumental pipe-dream......
53 Posted on 12/03/2000 11:49:52 PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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Oh yeah, add Klintler beating his chest on all of the Sunday Shows to my above scenario. Along with the Irrelavent Jessie Jerkson.
Provided they're really leaving, I'd say Sam Donaldon (and the rest of the Sunday Morning propiganda ministy) have these scumbags booked solid for the next four years with an option to renew in the event of a Bush re-election.
Just thought I'd add that to my above nightmare scenario.....
54 Posted on 12/03/2000 11:59:56 PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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Hold on kids, the nightmare is almost over!!!
55 Posted on 12/03/2000 12:06:12 PST by AnnaZ
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One last thing to add to my #53 (promise). Hell-on-wheels-ary in the Senate. Anybody that thinks this narcissistic freak is gonna spend any time in the senate chamber needs a head examination and an cold-water enema.
Carville said, "It's funny what you get when you drag a hundred dollar bill through a trailer park". Use his logic, "It's sickening what you get when you drag a lapdog reporter and a camera past Hellary's office".
Bush even breathes on any of these EOs and the media assault will make the anti-impeachment campaign look like a freshman journalist's poorly executed lab experiment.....
56 Posted on 12/03/2000 12:13:57 PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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oops! #56 was supposed to be addressed to you, not me. Sorry!
Nothing more to add to the doom and gloom scenario. I promised!
57 Posted on 12/03/2000 12:24:57 PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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In arguing the point that he will leave... have you seen this?
Thanks Uncle Bill!
58 Posted on 12/03/2000 14:03:09 PST by susangirl
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FROM HERE:
GOP CONGRESS AFRAID TO CHALLENGE CLINTON'S EXECUTIVE ORDER DICTATORSHIP
Marc Lacey observes (New York Times, 7/5/00, p. A11) that "White House officials say they will continue drafting and carrying out policies, Congress or no Congress, until Mr. Clinton's final day.
"Through executive orders, memorandums, proclamations, regulations and other flexing of presidential power, Mr. Clinton has already put in effect a host of measures concerning the environment, health care and civil rights. And with the presidential campaign in high gear, and the Republican-controlled Congress not inclined to give Democrats any boost, Mr. Clinton's aides intend to continue making policy by decree -- putting federal land off limits to development, reorganizing government agencies, tightening pollution control rules and pushing other measures that would otherwise stand little chance of congressional passage. ..."
DICTATORSHIP IS MORE EFFICIENT THAN "DEMOCRACY"
"'This president will be signing executive orders right up until the morning of Jan. 20, 2001,' said Bruce N. Reed, the president's domestic policy adviser. 'In our experience, when the administration takes executive action, it not only leads to results while the political process is stuck in neutral, but it often spurs Congress to follow suit.' ...
"Another goal of executive actions these days, of course, is to aid Vice President Al Gore's presidential bid. It was Mr. Clinton who signed the order earlier this year granting increased protection to 250,000 acres of federal land in Oregon and Washington State. But it was Mr. Gore who announced the creation of the Cascade-Siskiyou and Hanford Reach National Monuments, an act that pleased environmentalists."
DO REPUBLICANS FEAR STRIPPING "PRESIDENT" DUBYA OF SIMILAR POWER?
"Over the course of his seven and a half years as president, Mr. Clinton has signed an average of about one executive order or other policy-making declaration a week, or 450 in all, according to the Office of Management and Budget. ...
"Mr. Clinton points to his predecessors to justify his approach. Former President Jimmy Carter, for instance, signed an order creating a national monument in Alaska that exceeded 53 million acres. Mr. Clinton now holds the record for total land set aside in the lower 48 states. ...
"No consensus has emerged on Capitol Hill on whether future presidents ought to be reined in. Legislation limiting the acres that presidents can protect with the stroke of a pen cleared the House but not the Senate. Bills requiring Mr. Clinton to justify his executive orders to Congress or win subsequent approval from lawmakers have also stalled. ...
"Lawmakers have little doubt that the next president, whether it is Mr. Gore or Gov. George W. Bush of Texas, will continue the pattern of past presidents.
"'I do not believe that the romance with the executive order is restricted to the Clinton White House,' said Representative George W. Gekas, Republican of Pennsylvania, who has held hearings on the issue. 'Every president has used them. Some, though, have used more restraint than others.'"
"Once again, though, the only people with the authority to curb the misuse of executive orders are the members of Congress, who have 30 days from the issuance of an order to reject it by majority vote. Trouble is, they seldom bother to read them. And the press seldom bothers to cover them — even when they represent sweeping new interpretations of human rights and compromises of U.S. national sovereignty."
[Partial Transcript]
59 Posted on 12/03/2000 14:45:01 PST by Uncle Bill
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BUMP!
60 Posted on 12/03/2000 14:47:28 PST by otterpond
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Separation of Powers - Executive Orders
It may seem strange to begin by stressing the ways in which the Constitution limits governmental power, but we must keep in mind the dilemma the framers faced. They wanted a more effective national government, yet at the same time they were keenly aware that the people would not accept too much central control. Efficiency and order were important concerns, but they were not as important as liberty. The framers wanted to ensure domestic tranquility and prevent future rebellions, but they also wanted to forestall the emergence of a home-grown George III. Accordingly, they allotted certain powers to the national government and reserved the rest for the states, thus establishing a system of federalism.... Even this was not enough. They believed they needed additional means to limit the national government.
The first step was the separation of powers, that is, allocating constitutional authority to each of the three branches of the national government. In The Federalist, No. 47, James Madison wrote, "No political truth is certainly of greater intrinsic value, or is stamped with the authority of more enlightened patrons of liberty, than that...the accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands...may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny."
Separation of powers: Constitutional division of power among legislative, executive, and judicial branches. The legislative branch is assigned the power to make laws; the executive is charged with the power to apply the laws: and the judiciary receives the power to interpret laws.
Government by the People, 14th edition, Burns, Peltason, Cronin, Prentice Hall
American presidents of both political parties; Congress regardless of its majority party; and the courts have failed to honor the American constitutional requirement of the separation of powers – the separation of powers our country’s founders knew to be necessary in order for them and for us to live in liberty.
During the remaining few months of his term in office, how many and what kind of executive orders will President Clinton issue?
"The fact that the amendment did not survive conference was disappointing, and led the administration to issue essentially the same policy in executive-order form."
U.S. Trade Representative Charlene Barshefsky, The Wall Street Journal, May 11, 2000
"We've switched the rules of the game. We're not trying to do anything legislatively."
Interior Secretary Bruce Babbitt, The Washington Times, June 14, 1999
"...he [Clinton] has also pursued an 'executive order strategy' that goes way beyond trying to guide federal agencies in how to implement laws."
The Wall Street Journal (editorial) August 6, 1998
"Stroke of the pen. Law of the Land. Kinda cool."
Paul Begala, former Clinton advisor, The New York Times, July 5, 1998
"Clinton is pushing the envelope. He's consistently trying to take more power than Congress gives him."
David Schoenbrod, New York Law School professor, Los Angeles Times, July 4, 1998
Abuse of Presidential Power - WorldnetDaily - Joseph Farah
"All legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives," says Article 1 of the U.S. Constitution. To that, the Clinton administration replies, "Stroke of the pen. Law of the Land. Kinda cool."
I don't know about you or Congress, but I don't think there's anything cool about totalitarianism."
An unseen cancer on the body politic - Walter Williams
"Through the use of executive orders and regulatory agencies, the Clinton/Gore administration has made a mockery of separation of powers. The administration has summarily bypassed congressional legislative authority in important areas such as environmental, labor and civil-rights law, not to mention waging war in several countries."
William J. Olson P.C. - Attorneys At Law
Hon. Helen Chenoweth, Hon. Bob Schaffer, Hon. Don Young, and Hon. Richard W. Pombo, all in their official capacities, Petitioners, v. William J. Clinton, President of the United States, et al., Respondents.
"On December 30, 1999, we filed an amicus curiae brief in the U.S. Supreme Court on behalf of eight members of Congress (Hon. John T. Doolittle, Hon. George Radanovich, Hon. Tom Tancredo, Hon. Bob Stump, Hon. Barbara Cubin, Hon. Tom A. Coburn, Hon. Wally Herger, and Hon. John E. Perterson) and four nonprofit organizations (Lincoln Institute for Research and Education, Gun Owners Foundation, Citizens United Foundation, and Concerned Women for America).
We believe we gave the Supreme Court good reasons to find that Representatives Chenoweth, Schaffer, Young, and Pombo have standing to challenge the constitutionality of President Clinton's American Heritage Rivers initiative. A victory in this case would be an important step toward obtaining judicial review of unconstitutional Executive Orders generally. (On March 6, 2000, the Supreme Court denied the petition for certiorari.) November 26, 1999"
Clinton power vs. Net power 2 hearings on executive orders this week
"Congress must stop this practice by responding aggressively and quickly every time a President abuses his power to operate the executive branch," ...Blocking this unconstitutional order on federalism is the best place to start. In fact, it's an essential starting point."
Rep. Bob Barr
61 Posted on 12/03/2000 15:29:18 PST by Uncle Bill
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BTTT
62 Posted on 12/03/2000 15:30:58 PST by Uncle Bill
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"Uncle Bill- Well I guess it will be up to the American people to make things right, Do you think they are up to it?"
Hi Lizzy65. Hope all is well. My answer is NO. They have proven that over and over for eight years.
63 Posted on 12/03/2000 15:35:19 PST by Uncle Bill
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Thanks. There's enough reading material here for three or four days.
It does make one think that he DOES intend to leave office soon. That's the only comforting thing about all these outrageous EOs.
64 Posted on 12/03/2000 16:16:10 PST by agrandis
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Clinton To Register Guns By Executive Order
The following alert was provided by the Liberty Study Committee:
June 2, 2000
National registration of all firearms as well as national registration (often called licensing) of owners of firearms will begin no later than January 20, 2001. It's not going to happen because of a law Congress will pass, but because of an executive order President Clinton will soon issue - the action of one man. He will most likely issue the executive order just after the upcoming presidential election regardless of who wins.
If you think my prediction is far-fetched, think again. President Clinton and his supporters desperately want all firearms and all owners of firearms in the U.S. to be registered with the federal government. They desperately need national registration because, as we all know, what they truly want is national confiscation of firearms. National confiscation of firearms happened in Mao's China, Stalin's and Gorbachev's Soviet Union, Hitler's Germany, Pol Pot's Cambodia, and Castro's Cuba. Is Clinton's America next?
President Clinton and his supporters will continue to actively push Congress for so-called "reasonable, common sense" gun-control legislation. However, when President Clinton and his supporters don't get what they want from Congress in the proper constitutional legislative process, he will spit on the Constitution by issuing an executive order to get what they want anyway. He's done it before and he'll do it again.
Don't take my word for it. Take the Clinton administration's word for it. Interior Secretary Bruce Babbitt said, "We've switched the rules of the game. We're not trying to do anything legislatively." [The Washington Times, June 14, 1999] Since President Clinton has grabbed millions of acres of land in the Midwest and West by issuing executive orders, why would he hesitate to issue an executive order to grab millions of guns?
Secretary Babbitt warned us in June of 1999. John Podesta, President Clinton's chief of staff, also warned us in November of 1999. "White House Chief of Staff John Podesta, frustrated with the balky Republican Congress, thinks it's time for President Clinton to show who's boss. How? Clinton plans a series of executive orders and changes to federal rules that he can sign in to law without first getting the OK from GOP naysayers. Since it's Podesta's idea, aides have dubbed it 'Project Podesta.' The namesake told our Kenneth T. Walsh: 'There's a pretty wide sweep of things we're looking to do, and we're going to be very aggressive in pursuing it.'" [Paul Bedard, U.S. News Online, November 1, 1999]
Paul Begala, as a senior adviser to President Clinton in 1998, gave us a big hint when he said, "Stroke of the pen. Law of the Land. Kinda cool." [The New York Times, July 5, 1998]
No, it's NOT cool!!!!
Legislation that will stop President Clinton in his tracks and prevent future presidents from acting like kings is now pending in the U.S. House and U.S.Senate.
Write your congressional delegation today, or get ready to hand over your firearms tomorrow.
Click on http://www.executiveorders.org for an easy way to write your congressional delegation and for extensive background information about executive orders.
Kent Snyder
Liberty Study Committee
http://www.libertystudy.org
PS. Please ask family and friends to help.
65 Posted on 12/03/2000 18:21:39 PST by Uncle Bill
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Johnny Chung info confirms Communist funds are linked to Clinton's 'Executive Order'
66 Posted on 12/03/2000 18:24:43 PST by Uncle Bill
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Clinton Signs Executive Order On Military Anti-Gay Crimes
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67 Posted on 12/03/2000 18:37:15 PST by Uncle Bill
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JUST REMEMBER THIS FREEPERS, EXECUTIVE ORDERS MAY BE RESCINDED BY THE INCOMING PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
68 Posted on 12/03/2000 18:41:19 PST by Mr. Wright
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To Republicans:
In the name of God, in the name of the people that you represent, in the name of the Republic and all the brave men and women that have died for the cause of freedom, will you take a stand against the tyranny of this administration?
We are a peaceful and free people, but we are not free, nor are we peaceful now. If you let this tyranny, this abuse of OUR freedom stand you will be no better than the entity that purposes to take our liberty. Was my voice heard when I elected you to the office that represents me? Was my voice wasted on a promise with no substance? Did I vote for a hero in rhetoric and got a coward in substance?
Don't shame this nation! Stand and deliver the liberty to your people that you promised. Make us proud, don't make us servants of the state!
69 Posted on 12/03/2000 18:49:52 PST by timydnuc
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Well said. Bump & bookmark.
70 Posted on 12/03/2000 18:56:57 PST by xorch
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CLINTON'S POWER GRABS
Congress Must Deal With Executive Orders
"I can do any Godda*ned thing I want. I’m President of the United States. I take care of my friends and I fu*k with my enemies. That’s the way it is. Anybody who doesn’t like it can take a hike."
BILL CLINTON - White House staff meeting regarding the IRS going after Kenneth Starr.
"It is difficult to construe the president's sworn statements ... as anything other than a willful refusal to obey this court's discovery orders."
U.S. District Judge Susan Webber Wright - April 12, 1999.
71 Posted on 12/03/2000 19:18:56 PST by Uncle Bill
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Thanks! I just added this to my site!
72 Posted on 12/03/2000 19:36:46 PST by incindiary
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Uncle Bill, you ROCK!!
73 Posted on 12/03/2000 19:38:57 PST by incindiary
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Who gives a bloody crap what Daschle says. I think George W. should have a single EO, listing ALL Clinton signed EOs drawn up and with one extra line, sign the thing.
The extra line need simply read. "The following Executive Orders and rescinded in their entirity."
74 Posted on 12/03/2000 19:44:38 PST by Ronin
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The New Republican Majority
"SMITH: Have you demonstrated this year that it's possible to run the American government from the Speaker's office, that you can drive the government from here?
GINGRICH: No, you can shape the government from here, you can't run it. The President runs the government.
If we had a Republican President who shared our values, we would have already passed a balanced budget, we wold have a dramatically reformed military. We'd already ben in the middle of the welfare reform being implemented. I mean, you really can't run the government from up here. You can shape it from up here, but you can't run it."
SORRY, MR. PRESIDENT, THIS LAW APPLIES TO YOU TOO
"When President Clinton was accused by a federal judge of a criminal violation of the Privacy Act last month, his defense was that the White House is exempt from the law."
75 Posted on 12/03/2000 19:44:42 PST by Uncle Bill
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Hi Cindy! Thanks. Rock on, pass it on, and bumperoo!
76 Posted on 12/03/2000 19:47:20 PST by Uncle Bill
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Uncle Bill, you ROCK!!
Uncle Bill's one of a kind and yes, he ROCKS!!!
77 Posted on 12/03/2000 19:49:53 PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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BTTT
78 Posted on 12/03/2000 19:51:20 PST by slym
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"JUST REMEMBER THIS FREEPERS, EXECUTIVE ORDERS MAY BE RESCINDED BY THE INCOMING PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Hi Mr. Wright. May be is one thing. Will be is quite another. There are powerful political operatives within the Republican Party that post and read on this site on a regular basis. They're quiet.
79 Posted on 12/03/2000 19:51:58 PST by Uncle Bill
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Will Mumia Abu-Jamal and LePeltier be pardoned? My guess is that Peltier will be.
80 Posted on 12/03/2000 19:55:29 PST by JerseyHighlander
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This is a fantastic collection. Thanks.
81 Posted on 12/03/2000 19:58:49 PST by ridensm
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Who gives a bloody crap what Daschle says.
I'll re-iterate some of my comments from earlier in this thread
For the past six years we've had a majority in the House and the Dems have "ruled the roost". And the senate? That's a laugh! Lott lets Dascle walk all over him now, just wait 'til it's really 50/50 (107th CONgress).
Lott, Hastert and the rest of the tragic traitors will have to start wearing industrial-grade adult diapers. Not to mention the wear-resistant knee-pads. Little Dick Gephardt was on Meet the Depressed this AM trying to calmly explain how they planned to castrate Bush, they are sharpening the knife as we speak. He could barely contain his glee. BTW, you guessed it, I did "read between the lines". Gephardt never tells the truth so one has to concentrate on how he speaks.
No flame intended but I think you are disillusioned. I hope you're right about Bush scrapping all of these EOs, really I do. But I think its a monumental pipe-dream......
Oh yeah, add Klintler beating his chest on all of the Sunday Shows to my above scenario. Along with the Irrelavent Jessie Jerkson.
Provided they're really leaving, I'd say Sam Donaldon (and the rest of the Sunday Morning propiganda ministy) have these scumbags booked solid for the next four years with an option to renew in the event of a Bush re-election.
Hell-on-wheels-ary in the Senate. Anybody that thinks this narcissistic freak is gonna spend any time in the senate chamber needs a head examination and an cold-water enema.
Carville said, "It's funny what you get when you drag a hundred dollar bill through a trailer park". Use his logic, "It's sickening what you get when you drag a lapdog reporter and a camera past Hellary's office".
Bush even breathes on any of these EOs and the media assault will make the anti-impeachment campaign look like a freshman journalist's poorly executed lab experiment.....
Gephardt and Daschle are sharpening their knives as we speak, is Bush man enough to take them (and the entire media corps) on?
I hope so. He's all we've got right now. Let's hold his feet to the fire on this, his re-election depends on us (and some really fancy election law reform).
82 Posted on 12/03/2000 20:05:09 PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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excuse me........while I take a Clinton!
Don't forget to wipe your clymer!
83 Posted on 12/03/2000 20:42:28 PST by buzzsaw6
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"If you won't use the powers of the presidency to help people, step aside. I will,"
Bill Clinton - 1992 - Mr. Begala quoted the president as telling Mr. Bush.
"Clinton is an activist, muscular president,"
Paul Begala
84 Posted on 12/03/2000 20:54:09 PST by Uncle Bill
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Yes get rid of them... and use a few of his own to UNDO several things immediately.. partial birth abortion, gasoline taxes, the federal state of emergency... and all the wacky land grants and new regs restricting the use of our land...
then the congress and judicial branches will need to "catch up" on these as they can, while we work towards expanding our majorities in the Senate and House next election.
85 Posted on 12/03/2000 22:06:05 PST by Robert_Paulson2
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Presidents don't "repeal" exec orders... you know that. Congress does by a fifty percent plus one vote in the house. Presidents can rescind them. Presidents can write new ones to supercede the old ones.
Exec orders are NECESSARY to run the executive branch... When they are used to write law, instead of the executive branch employees... they are wrong... and should be repealed.
There needs to be a delineation between the executive and legislative regarding what constitutes "law" and what constitutes "direction of employees" that work for the executive. Setting aside land as "off limits" to the public is NOT employeed direction... it IS legislation by decree.
86 Posted on 12/03/2000 22:12:06 PST by Robert_Paulson2
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Thanks for the heads up!
87 Posted on 12/03/2000 22:16:58 PST by Alamo-Girl
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BTTT
88 Posted on 12/04/2000 00:48:03 PST by Uncle Bill
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Yes, but will Emperor Slick "Crank Out" another O.K.C. incident to justify these anti-Constitutional measures?
There is more than "a whiff" of Neo-Stalinism in the air...
89 Posted on 12/04/2000 07:34:59 PST by Ticonderoga
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Jeez, it is so much time for them to go. Hopefully, peacefully.
If not...well, nevermind.
5.56mm
90 Posted on 12/04/2000 07:38:47 PST by M Kehoe
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badabump, and thanks for posting this. dadgum, no rest with these perps...
91 Posted on 12/04/2000 08:02:37 PST by cyn (cynic#456,789)
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Hundreds of executive orders and federal regulations both costly and controversial have been held by the administration for implementation until this, its 11th hour
And only a few minutes will be needed to cancel those illegal "laws".
Those bureaucrats celebrating all these new rules will be well-advised to shelf those "first-rapist" orders until late January or so or they might actually have to work to reverse the damage.
92 Posted on 12/04/2000 08:29:44 PST by Publius6961
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EOs have to be curtailed by Congress, have to be, because it's ruling by fiat. Someone tell me that's constitional.
The ultimate irony is that those who blabber the loudest about "democracy" and "every vote must count", are totally oblivious to the effect of executive orders on democratic rule, representative or otherwise.
93 Posted on 12/04/2000 08:33:20 PST by Publius6961
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There is more than "a whiff" of Neo-Stalinism in the air...
94 Posted on 12/04/2000 09:05:36 PST by AnnaZ (notnirvana@all)
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I wish that I could share your optimism that a Bush regime would cancel any of these Executive Orders.
Even if I thought Bush Junior had sound, Constitutional instincts I'd doubt that he had the will, strength of spirit or political capital to cancel the plague of E.O.'s--including many bad ones that Bush Senior signed into being.
95 Posted on 12/04/2000 09:17:26 PST by Ticonderoga
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LOL!!
But Stalinists, like their Neo-Con and Plutocratic cousins, are materialists and deny the battle for our Republic's--and the World's--Soul being waged on the Spiritual plane.
Pax Vobiscum
96 Posted on 12/04/2000 09:23:16 PST by Ticonderoga
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bttt
97 Posted on 12/04/2000 09:33:12 PST by Stand Watch Listen
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BTTT
98 Posted on 12/04/2000 12:52:27 PST by Uncle Bill
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"My son, at the transition tell W. if he tries to
screw with our E.O.'s we will cut-off CIA
black ops. funding."
99 Posted on 12/04/2000 13:23:57 PST by Uncle Bill
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I knew it!,I knew it! I just knew it!! ...lol
100 Posted on 12/04/2000 13:30:58 PST by Stand Watch Listen
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In the mind of a Democrat
In the mind of a Republican
101 Posted on 12/04/2000 13:36:00 PST by Uncle Bill
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In the mind of a Democrat
In the mind of a Republican
102 Posted on 12/04/2000 13:36:24 PST by Uncle Bill
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bump
103 Posted on 12/04/2000 15:27:53 PST by FReethesheeples
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Reagan still holds the record for most EO's issued / year.
Federal Register - List of Executive Orders Although only a partial list (5075 to present), it shows that all the post WWII presidents were slackers.
1011 for Hoover, in 4 years.
3728 for FDR, in 12-1/2 years.
896 for Truman, in 7-1/2 years.
And, for that matter, Carter's 320 in 4 years beats Reagan's average :)
Another bit of misinformation, not terribly surprised.
104 Posted on 12/04/2000 15:29:52 PST by WizWom
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"contrary to the vitriol I sometimes spew, I am a freindly guy"
Really?
I was speaking in ref to Clinton, point being that Clinton is going to move fast to beat Reagan. Maybe as fast as the guy that wrote the article above, and dated it December 11, 2000.
If they ever did away with EO's (which they can't and won't, of course), whatever will the tinfoil hat brigade do? :)
105 Posted on 12/04/2000 15:54:00 PST by Tickle Me Pank
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"point being that Clinton is going to have to move fast to beat Reagan."
106 Posted on 12/04/2000 15:56:40 PST by Tickle Me Pank
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UB, WELL done!!! Peace and love, George.
107 Posted on 12/04/2000 15:57:34 PST by George Frm Br00klyn Park
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Un-italic
108 Posted on 12/04/2000 16:04:40 PST by WizWom
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Un-Italic now
109 Posted on 12/04/2000 16:05:27 PST by WizWom
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Try this.
110 Posted on 12/04/2000 16:06:12 PST by Tickle Me Pank
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BIG bump!
g
111 Posted on 12/04/2000 17:40:44 PST by Geezerette
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Can Bush do that with a countermanding order, once seated as President?
HE ABSOLUTELY CAN. Just like Clinton did to his father's. The second or third Clinton Exec. Order revoked President Bush's order that all unionized companies had to post information related to the Beck decision, i.e. that union members could get refunds from their unions for that part of their dues that was used for political purposes.
I would hope that President-Elect Bush has already assigned someone to research which of Clinton's orders should be revoked.
112 Posted on 12/04/2000 18:13:02 PST by jackbill
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volley bttt!
113 Posted on 12/04/2000 20:25:50 PST by Alamo-Girl
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Thank you Uncle Bill again and again and.....
Bookmarked for another read. What a wonderful resource you are!
114 Posted on 12/04/2000 20:48:52 PST by catfur
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Thanks for the post and all the info!
115 Posted on 12/04/2000 21:03:02 PST by countrydummy (lrrh@inetone.net)
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President Bush could undo the aforementioned mess of Executive Orders by the issuance of a single EO listing each of Klintoon's EO's and PD's and nullifying them, effective immediately, all in one "kinda cool stroke of the pen."
I may even provide the new White House with a draft of said EO written by me and submitted on disk and hard copy to increase the likelihood that the new administration would then have the time to prepare a final version for the President's signature -- preferrably to take place within an hour or so of his being sworn in on Inauguration Day.
Imagine the look on Bill and Al's mugs as they listen to the news bulletin announcing one of the new President's first official acts of "reconciliation" while they and their cabal are fleeing the Nation's Capital at 10,000 feet like the whipped dogs that they are.
These efforts bear duplication for purposes of emphasis and increaded likelihood of penetration into the administrative maze of the new Bush White House.
An Inauguration night (singing?) telegram consisiting only of his immortal "kinda cool" pronouncement re: EO's -- signed by "your friends and admirers at the Free Republic" -- and delivered publically to Paul Begala certainly would be a nice touch as well.......
116 Posted on 12/04/2000 21:50:05 PST by tracer
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Immediately Repeal all Clinton E.O.s GWB! Congress, investigate!
117 Posted on 12/04/2000 21:52:02 PST by FReethesheeples
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You're most welcome and thank you! Get the word out. Thanks again.
118 Posted on 12/04/2000 22:32:54 PST by Uncle Bill
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Excellent. He can do it. The question is will he do it. The Congress and Bush better work this out because many, many people have had it with executive orders. I'm not holding my breath.
Regards, Uncle Bill.
119 Posted on 12/04/2000 22:40:03 PST by Uncle Bill
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Thanks George. BTTT.
120 Posted on 12/04/2000 22:40:54 PST by Uncle Bill
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121 Posted on 12/04/2000 22:59:58 PST by ATOMIC_PUNK
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I understand that the Bush folks had every intention of looking into several of these EO's unfortunatly that was before gore refused to go away. I was not real confident that they would take on these big land grabs before but now am afraid it is going to take real guts to do this. Still I am going to be talking to a certain congressman I know and see what can be done.
122 Posted on 12/04/2000 23:04:54 PST by KernFarmer
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UMMM--EXCUSE ME, BUT I THINK YOU GOT THE TITLE OF THIS THREAD ALL WRONG!.......IT SHOULD READ: "CLINTON DOES CRANK WITH LAST MINUTE EXECUTIVES!"
123 Posted on 12/04/2000 23:15:00 PST by PSYCHO-FREEP
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124 Posted on 12/04/2000 23:24:54 PST by DC Ripper
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Yes, I think the media and the Gorettes will be hounding him about not being the legitimate winner throughout his term. The transition time, even in a normal turnover is quite lengthy. They will be swamped with thousands of positions to fill, and arrangements to be organized and planned for implementation. The moment he would act on the executive orders the media will squeal, the environmental communists will be hanging from bridges, Jesse Jackson's ruckus rousers will be in somnambulism step, and of course Bill Clinton will crawl out from his neurotic dilapidated legacy to grab the first sycophantic microphone available to give us his definition of the word executive, and tell Bush he better really get back to work for the American people, and for the children stop destroying his legacy that was given to us by the god of sluts. We know this, it will never change, so do it anyway. Do what is right. Bush should zero them out. Have a press conference. Explain the Constitution. Explain to the American people just what an executive order is and how much power a president has utilizing this unconstitutional tool. Make it a big media event. A celebration. Have Peggy Noonan write the speech. Have pictures of the founding fathers in the background. The flag, etc. Maybe find one Democrat in the country who will sign on. Maybe just read this to them Then, just do it.
125 Posted on 12/04/2000 23:41:40 PST by Uncle Bill
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From the first time he sat his sorry butt in the leather chair of power, he has schemed, negotiated, manipulated, planned, and organized many, many events with the evil hope of orchestrating Terrorist Tragedy Syndrome on the American people, to execute a national emergency, executive orders, FEMA and military action to set his sorry butt on the throne.
Bloodgate Author's Clinic Burns
Arkansas Blood and Death
Waco Holocaust Electronic Museum
SUDDEN INSTANT DEATH SYNDROME - A Clinton Disease - II
TWA Flight 800 - New Evidence Of Missile Attack
The Federal Government Had Prior Knowledge To OKC Bombing
Multiple Blasts: More Evidence
Town burns; nuclear facililty threatened
Nuclear secrets missing at Los Alamos lab
FBI Allows Bombing Of World Trade Center
Yes Texas, There Are Black Helicopters
Bill Clinton's Helpers and Friends in Corruption:
The Rise of the FBI and The Fall of The Republic
126 Posted on 12/05/2000 02:13:24 PST by Uncle Bill
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How are so many of us ever going to be able to repay you for your efforts? I have no quotes, info or anything else to give...you probably have all of them already anyway.
My deepest gratitude, as always, and God's blessings upon you. Bookmarked, beyond doubt.
127 Posted on 12/05/2000 21:47:23 PST by philman_36
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Thank you so much for the kind words. God bless. And my thanks will simply be that at least some folks, like you, are reading the evil deeds of this administration and then doing as much as possible, within their abilities, to spread the word, start cyber prairie fires, get involved, and somehow shake folks out of their slumber to act. It hasn't been that hard to expose these people. It's been a nightmare to get anyone to do anything after they are exposed. Thanks again.
128 Posted on 12/05/2000 23:06:01 PST by Uncle Bill
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Clinton to sign, 30,000 Pages of New Federal Regulations - Fox News - December 6, 2000
129 Posted on 12/07/2000 01:59:59 PST by Uncle Bill
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I read a title once that fits. It was "Tragedy on the Cliff" by Ilene Dover
Kind o' reminds me o' Bubba, don't ya know!
"A Bridge too Far" is another.
130 Posted on 12/07/2000 02:35:05 PST by philman_36
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In Obscurity, Clinton Regime Saves Worst Regulations for Last
131 Posted on 12/07/2000 04:26:28 PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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132 Posted on 12/12/2000 11:30:24 PST by Uncle Bill
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Clinton Set to Unleash Executive Order Onslaught
"Congress should tell him, if he has the gall to move ahead with executive orders that essentially remove natural resources from the market in the U.S., they will veto him with legislative action that President George W. Bush will sign," Jeffrey said.
..When Republican lawmakers met with Dick Cheney on Capitol Hill, some urged a Bush Administration to work aggressively to reverse Clinton's orders. But Bush’s staff is making no promises.
"Obviously, we're going to take a look at all executive orders as part of duties of any administration, and we will do so," said Bush spokesman Ari Fleisher.
The president-elect has limited authority to reverse his predecessor’s orders. It is really up to Congress to pass legislation to undo what President Clinton has done.
"Bush should not try to use the executive power to achieve conservative outcomes. He should also try to shift the power to take these decisions back to the legislature which is where the Constitution puts them, because the legislature is the branch closest to the voters," said Jeffrey.
Most presidents have used executive fiat to get things done in their final days. President Jimmy Carter holds the record for signing the most midnight regulations. Now President Bill Clinton stands ready to topple that record as the clock runs out on his presidency.
Critics call Clinton's executive orders to set aside or expand 10 national monuments an "intrusive federal land grab." But outgoing Interior Secretary Bruce Babbitt is warning President-elect Bush not to reverse any of those designations, saying, "people like their monuments."
BLOOD TRAIL: Arizona's BRUCE BABBITT knew in 1980
133 Posted on 12/20/2000 01:59:03 PST by Uncle Bill
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I tend to agree with #40. Or....could Bush simply, with the stroke of a pen, wipe all the EO's clean? How can we hold his feet to the fire to do the right thing? Seems like I read somewhere that some EO's can only be wiped away within the first 90 days - anybody know about that?
134 Posted on 12/20/2000 03:03:26 PST by Independent Lady
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I hope Bush throws them all out
135 Posted on 12/20/2000 03:42:53 PST by The Wizard
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The GOOD news is that the EU is encountering enormous obstacles in its unification (socialistic agenda) of member states. NATO seldom can agree on anything, and it is becoming increasingly difficult for it to round up the troops it needs for its global police actions. Similarly the EC isn't fairing well either, headed by another socialist, Romano Prodi.
Without a thorough unification of Europe there is no NWO. With regard to domestic politics, I stopped trusting politicians 20 years ago. Everytime I look around it seems a a guaranteed "right" is being converted into a privilege, and quickly revoked, pending on what law has been broken.
The only way anything will ever change for the better is if there is a MASS non-cooperative movement directed to all levels of government. Until we reduce the size of federal, state and local government, NOTHING WILL CHANGE!
136 Posted on 12/20/2000 04:59:02 PST by Aura Of The Blade
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Seems like I read somewhere that some EO's can only be wiped away within the first 90 days ..
I'm not sure its 90 days, thought it was 60...then again I may be wrong. Well anyway, Congress needs to act of the president's EO's within the alloted time. That's why this forum makes such a fuss over the issuance dates of EO's. The clock is ticking.
Congress can review the EOs, vote them down or do nothing (which is the case in the last two Congress) and the EO becomes a law. Hence Paul Begala's .."stroke of the pen, law of the land, kinda cool"..."
137 Posted on 12/20/2000 06:26:31 PST by Stand Watch Listen
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That'll be hard to do with presidents ruling as commanders in chief under the emergency powers act.They want to increase the executive branch until it consumes everything.
Exposure will hurt them. Demanding us out of the UN, will hurt them bad.
Stopping city governments from putting city land in heritage site programs will hurt them also. My mayor and governor ran to kiss clintons' ass a while back, and the governor went to Florida to support gore. So my State is over run already, but I keep telling people, for now it's all I can do. It is not all I will do if they keep attacking my country and freedom.......
138 Posted on 12/20/2000 15:43:46 PST by Eustace
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Hence the reason for a MASS non-cooperative movement directed to all levels of government: federal, state and local. This is the only way out of this mess. If we took half the money we waste in global handouts, and reinvested the same in encouraging small business, manufacturing, ect., we would not be fortifying the economies of socialistic/communistic territories.
In short, the insurance companies and multinational corporations have respectively undermined this nation. Hence, we need to get back to the basics, that is, MOM and POP run businesses'. Anything other than that will assuredly result in the further errosion of our Bill of Rights (what's left of it).
139 Posted on 12/21/2000 16:10:43 PST by Aura Of The Blade
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You have to wonder if this incredible amount of E.O.s were intended *not* for the Bush era, but for the one to (Clinton-planned) follow it.
140 Posted on 12/26/2000 16:53:50 PST by Defend1
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George W in a confidential, encrypted secure land line to Uncle Bill:
Will you do it Uncle Bill?
141 Posted on 12/26/2000 17:04:41 PST by Defend1
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bump and a link to a related article
Carte Blanche (re:Clinton's abuse...recess appointments)
Source: CNS Commentary from the Free Congress Foundation
Published: January 03, 2001; Author: Thomas L. Jipping" President Clinton is leaving office the way he held office - abusing the Constitution for sport. By his latest partisan stunt, appointing Roger Gregory to the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals without the Senate's consent, Mr. Clinton has once again violated the Constitution, trashed the rule of law, and broken another promise. Accomplishing all this in one stroke is quite an achievement even for him.
In Article II, the U.S. Constitution gives the president power to fill up all vacancies that may happen during the recess of the Senate, by granting commissions that shall expire at the end of their next session.
These so-called recess appointments are a narrow emergency exception to the ordinary requirement of Senate consent. Increasingly, however, presidents have used recess appointments as a scheme for avoiding that consent requirement altogether. ... "
142 Posted on 01/03/2001 07:59:55 PST by Stand Watch Listen
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Thanks. It's pretty depressing that your post got only a couple replies regarding an issue that is so important. And, an issue that would be so easy for Republicans to prove Clinton's law breaking. Thanks for posting it!
143 Posted on 01/03/2001 13:44:10 PST by Uncle Bill
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Link-O-Rama!
Nice work, Uncle Bill.
144 Posted on 01/04/2001 14:08:48 PST by Keyesertarian
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BTTT
145 Posted on 07/10/2001 00:40:46 PDT by Uncle Bill
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bttt
146 Posted on 09/06/2001 20:21:41 PDT by ThreadKiller
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Rubbing Salt, I believe it's called. :-)
147 Posted on 09/06/2001 20:28:31 PDT by rdavis84
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No one should ever forget. It's whats wrong with America today.
148 Posted on 09/06/2001 20:32:34 PDT by ThreadKiller
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"No one should ever forget."
They'd rather get the skinny on Condit Monica Levy. Then bounce on over to one of the faggot shows on TV.
Short Attention Spans.
149 Posted on 09/06/2001 20:38:01 PDT by rdavis84
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Laz and Travis McGee were in there.
Damn I was hoping to see a huge pictorial post from MiaT.
Dunno if i was on that thread from the William Jefferson Criminal days...but...
https://freerepublic.com/memorial/memorial.htm
R.I.P.
Sheesh loved MiaT posts and nwarizonagranny aka Ruth Robinson.
M Kehoe was on that thread too. What a blast from the past!
Many are gone. Been here since 2/98, and I have seen many a friend go home to the Lord.
If you never want to feel the pain of losing fiends on a massive scale, never join a forum like this.
I’m 64, and in a Month I will have been here for 23 years.
The names of those I have known well, who either left FR over disputes or passed on, numbers in the hundreds if not over a thousand. I lose count as I lose track of people I have met here through the years.
This world was not built on coincidence; therefore, why do we see such things?
A simple G-search will give you squat when you look for the commonality of family origins. However, I am not an average researcher, and so here are the uncanny “coincidences.”
Hold on, there are several trails amongst the rabbits below:
#133 cites one Bruce Babbitt:
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Clinton Set to Unleash Executive Order Onslaught
“Congress should tell him, if he has the gall to move ahead with executive orders that essentially remove natural resources from the market in the U.S., they will veto him with legislative action that President George W. Bush will sign,” Jeffrey said.
..When Republican lawmakers met with Dick Cheney on Capitol Hill, some urged a Bush Administration to work aggressively to reverse Clinton’s orders. But Bush’s staff is making no promises.
“Obviously, we’re going to take a look at all executive orders as part of duties of any administration, and we will do so,” said Bush spokesman Ari Fleisher.
The president-elect has limited authority to reverse his predecessor’s orders. It is really up to Congress to pass legislation to undo what President Clinton has done.
“Bush should not try to use the executive power to achieve conservative outcomes. He should also try to shift the power to take these decisions back to the legislature which is where the Constitution puts them, because the legislature is the branch closest to the voters,” said Jeffrey.
Most presidents have used executive fiat to get things done in their final days. President Jimmy Carter holds the record for signing the most midnight regulations. Now President Bill Clinton stands ready to topple that record as the clock runs out on his presidency.
Critics call Clinton’s executive orders to set aside or expand 10 national monuments an “intrusive federal land grab.” But outgoing Interior Secretary Bruce Babbitt is warning President-elect Bush not to reverse any of those designations, saying, “people like their monuments.”
Bruce Babbitt, Cheap Crook
BLOOD TRAIL: Arizona’s BRUCE BABBITT knew in 1980
133 Posted on 12/20/2000 01:59:03 PST by Uncle Bill
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Bruce Babbitt was known within the ARIZONA scene. Here is a bio-interview from 2012 in which he lays out some knowledge into the politics of the West and gives some familial background, that he did have family in CA.
Another famous Babbitt was Bob Babbitt from San Diego, who in the professional biking scene, is legendary. I couldn’t find if he is in fact related to the aforementioned Bruce, but as the Arizonian Babbitt was a Clintonian, Bob was a great admirer of one Robin Williams, stout representative of the California Democratic Party (and most won’t do the research, so here it is: Robin Williams, b. 1951, into a lineage of Mississippi Senator and Governor McLaurin
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He became district attorney at age 21 and was described as “one of the foremost lawyers in the State”. He participated in the convention for the writing of the Mississippi Constitution in 1890 and was described as a free-coinage man. A Democrat, as were most whites in the South through the mid-twentieth century, McLaurin was elected by the state legislature to the U.S. Senate, serving from 1894 to 1895.
He was the first Governor of Mississippi to be elected under the Mississippi Constitution of 1890, which disenfranchised most blacks by raising barriers to voter registration. These changes essentially ended the competitiveness of the Republican Party in the state, as well as severely weakening the Populist Party. The last Confederate veteran elected as governor, McLaurin won the 1895 election, defeating Populist Frank Burkitt. He served from 1896 to 1900.
At Hazlehurst in 1898 the Governor explained in a speech that one of the causes of the depleted state treasury was inadequate taxation of the railroad corporations.
In October 1898 McLaurin traveled by train to Forest, Mississippi, after white rioting in nearby Harperville. Blacks had resisted the arrest of one of their community, killing one white man. A mob of whites quickly gathered, killing nine blacks by the next day. The county sheriff and a posse arrested some blacks, while the white mob continued to kill blacks on sight. The New Orleans Picayune said that 11 black men were killed and one white. The sheriff took several black men under armed guard to Meridian, Mississippi, to protect them from the white mobs in Forest.
McLaurin returned to the US Senate in 1901 after being elected by the state legislature to that seat in 1900; he was re-elected January 19, 1904.] - Wikipedia
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McLaurin died Dec 22 1909 while a U.S. Senator - he was quickly replaced in the interim by James Gordon, who has another coincidental past relative to today...
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The day after his appointment by Governor Noel to the United States Senate, Gordon was identified by the Memphis Press-Scimitar as a former fugitive who had been sought as a suspect in the conspiracy to assassinate President Abraham Lincoln. Gordon was listed in 1865 by the United States government as a fugitive, and a reward of $10,000 had been offered for his capture, dead or alive. Later that year, he was ruled out of the suspects. Gordon had admitted that he had met with John Wilkes Booth in Montreal in March 1865, and had discussed plans to kidnap Lincoln, but denied any discussion of an assassination
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This was all done during a post Teddy Roosevelt presidency and a William Howard Taft term (this is another astonishing “coincidence”; let me know if you get the similarities...:
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- President of the United States (1909–1913) and Chief Justice of the United States (1921–1930), the only person to have held both offices.
- chosen successor of Theodore Roosevelt, but was defeated for re-election by Woodrow Wilson (D) in 1912 after Roosevelt split the Republican vote by running as a third-party candidate (Bull Moose party).
- In 1921, President Warren G. Harding appointed Taft to be chief justice
- Taft was born in 1857. His father, Alphonso Taft, was a U.S. Attorney General and Secretary of War.
- Taft attended Yale and joined the Skull and Bones, of which his father was a founding member. {The beginning of Skull&Bones member preceding the popular incumbent, reminiscent of the 2004 election between S&B members GWBush and JKerry}
After becoming a lawyer, Taft was appointed a judge while still in his twenties. He continued a rapid rise, being named Solicitor General and as a judge of the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals. In 1901, President William McKinley appointed Taft civilian governor of the Philippines. In 1904, Roosevelt made him Secretary of War, and he became Roosevelt’s hand-picked successor. Despite his personal ambition to become chief justice, Taft declined repeated offers of appointment to the Supreme Court of the United States, believing his political work to be more important.
With Roosevelt’s help, Taft had little opposition for the Republican nomination for president in 1908 and easily defeated William Jennings Bryan for the presidency in that November’s election. In the White House, he focused on East Asia more than European affairs and repeatedly intervened to prop up or remove Latin American governments. Taft sought reductions to trade tariffs, then a major source of governmental income, but the resulting bill was heavily influenced by special interests. His administration was filled with conflict between the conservative wing of the Republican Party, with which Taft often sympathized, and the progressive wing, toward which Roosevelt moved more and more. Controversies over conservation and antitrust cases filed by the Taft administration served to further separate the two men. Roosevelt challenged Taft for renomination in 1912. Taft used his control of the party machinery to gain a bare majority of delegates and Roosevelt bolted the party. The split left Taft with little chance of re-election and he took only Utah and Vermont in Wilson’s victory.
After leaving office, Taft returned to Yale as a professor, continuing his political activity and working against war through the League to Enforce Peace. In 1921, President Harding appointed Taft as chief justice, an office he had long sought. Chief Justice Taft was a conservative on business issues and under him there were advances in individual rights. In poor health, he resigned in February 1930, and died the following month. He was buried at Arlington National Cemetery, the first president and first Supreme Court justice to be interred there.
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We all have forgotten, but the path precedence has been made in history to have a President appointed to the Supreme Court...
...back to the topic at hand; we left off with Robin Williams...
Laura McLaurin Janin aka Laurie McLaurin Williams (Mississippi model, nicknamed Punky) and dad Robert Williams (executive at Ford) gave Robin the McLaurin name his mother was given and kept during her marriages; here is a brief view into his parents.
Robin would go to the same Yale as Taft’s father and Taft, GW’s father, and GW and JKerry, and cannot know if Babbitt went to Yale, because of the lack of resources available...
But to those researching Ashli Babbitt (second known marriage, after a long first) might she have been married into a long-standing chain of political divisiveness...
Your thoughts?
Hi.
Many good FReepers have left our mortal coil since then.
I’m getting up in age too.
Thanks for the ping.
5.56mm
So many names that we no longer see...........
Oh the wicket schemes Satan thinks he is weaving to deceive and destroy man.
Yet, behind the scenes, God allows Satan to succeed to a certain point for His own glory. What is God’s final solution as to why He allowed Satan to manipulate things the way he has?
The end times.
Just as God allowed Joseph to be sold into slavery so that He could send His chosen people to Israel, where they would be assured of no intermarrying for a few hundred years. Thus when the time was ripe, He moved the Pharaohs to enslave His people so they would want to leave instead of just becoming a section of the Egyptian society.
He moved another Pharaoh to kill the first born and thus save one, who would be raised and thus educated above all other men at that time. God knew Moses zeal for his brethren would lead him to murder an Egyptian soldier, thus he ran away into the desert where he met his wife. After 40 years working as a Shepherd, and the Egypt was out of His blood, God sent Him back to Egypt to get His people back the the land He promised Abraham 500 years earlier.
The things you point out, are just another a pattern of how God works behind the scenes to get what He wants. He knows the desires of evil men, and He uses their evil for His glory.
Time and time again throughout history, even things we think are remotely related, God moves too get what He wants.
I can go from the time Noah stepped out of the Ark, and got drunk because he was clueless of the change of the World that now caused the grape juice to ferment faster and thus became strong wine. This in turn led one of his son’s perverted thought to infect the grandson who did something to cause a curse on Ham, where black men would come from creating slavery that effected the United States tooth’s day.
Follow the rabbit trail through history and see how God used even small things, like a dry bed in the desert that gets an over abundance of water once in awhile during heavy rain to push desert sand into the Red Sea. After about almost a thousand years the sand would make bridge 50 feet below the Sea that when God opened the waters, a quick setting bottom like the sands on the beach when the sea retreats so we can walk on the beach. So much so that 1 million people could cross in safety to escape pharaoh, after God opened the sea .
From the day God made man, He had a plan. He did not guide it, but He knows how we will react to each other. It’s those reactions that He uses for His glory. We have free will, He just knows that we are evil and will reject his advances for the advances of the evil one, Satan. So God used our inborn desire for this World to bring about our Salvation..
The question is, how close are we truly to the day He will return. I think it’s real close.
Oh I’m with you brother.
Yeshua be merciful on your chosen, we love you and we are repentful and sorry for our society. They know not what they do, just as you told us!
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