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Capitol riots: Did Trump's words at rally incite violence?
BBC ^ | 13 January 2021 | Sam Cabral

Posted on 01/13/2021 4:00:23 PM PST by walford

...In a 70-minute address, [Trump] exhorted them to march on Congress where politicians had met to certify Democrat Joe Biden's win. The attack began moments after he took the applause.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antifa; capitolriots; democrats
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"...'We won this election, and we won it by a landslide' This is three minutes into his speech and repeats a false claim that Democrats say is the starting point for the incitement charge."

It is by no means a Fact of Nature that Biden won the election. There was plenty of evidence in the form of sworn affidavits and videos. The Courts refused to consider it one way or the other. We all saw with our own eyes poll-watchers being ejected to the cheers of the vote-counters -- some of whom were sporting Biden gear. Then the lead mysteriously switched in the wee hours. To assert that questioning the election results under these circumstances as 'false' is demagoguery. -------------------------------- "...'You don't concede when there's theft involved. Our country has had enough. We will not take it anymore.' At one point, the president says the Biden presidency has to be challenged. 'You will have an illegitimate president. That is what you will have, and we can't let that happen'..."

Let us not forget that the Hard Left and their #PartyofJimCrow has been saying that Trump is not legitimately PoTUS since before he was sworn-in. There are numerous examples of Trump Admin officials, Republicans being harassed and even assaulted [e.g. Rand Paul, Dan Bongino & wives] after being instigated by Pelosi, Waters, Booker, et al. People wearing #MAGA gear have been beaten up and even killed. So spare us your crocodile tears. --------------------------------- "...'If you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore' This is the longest quote from Mr Trump's speech that appears in the charge sheet. It could also be the one that his lawyers will find hardest to defend if the impeachment goes to trial in the Senate."

Democrats have literally been fighting Trump and his supporters since Day 1 resulting in bloodshed. Again, crocodile tears. --------------------------------- "...'I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.' The language is very different from other sections which borrow more from combat or war."

Let us remember that the context of these remarks is subsequent to AntiFa/BLM Sturmabteilung looting, burning, cracking heads. Our Constitutional Republic was born from battling against illegitimate government imposed w/o popular mandate. This is precisely what the Democrats have done to the majority of the legit American voter. ------------------------------------- "...'We're going to walk down to the Capitol and we're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women, and we're probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them'..."

And that's what peaceful, patriotic protesters did while Congress was dismissing calls to audit the election results for 10 days. If the Democrats were confident that they won a free and fair election, they would have agreed, so their legitimacy to govern would be beyond question. But they knew their conduct at the polls would not withstand such scrutiny.

It is also curious how the media is not curious as to the actual identities of the violent rioters. They certainly didn't look like the actual Trump supporters. Some may have been wearing MAGA gear, but they also wore body armor, helmets, goggles -- and clubs. Has anyone seen such people at a Trump rally before?

Furthermore, the fact that the police had advance warning of possible mob violence before Trump's speech gives lie to any assertion of incitement.

It is not reasonable to call for unity after trying to overturn the previous election via fraudulent, illegal means [e.g. FBI spying, fraudulent FISA testimony, perjury traps, Russia collusion hoax, Ukraine quid-pro-quo fabrications].

The Left considered Trump to be illegitimately PoTUS precisely BECAUSE the American people overcame Democrat dirty tricks in 2016 and chose their own Head of State. Now that we have had the most feckless, addled, corrupt person possible installed in the White House by a fascist junta, we are supposed to keep our mouths shut and accept it? Unity by instituting censorship, propaganda to obtain submission?

What Trump said is mild compared to what he, his Administration and supporters had to endure during his entire presidency from Democrat politicians, the media and entertainment industry. And most of the attacks against him were actually directed at a feared, despised American people.

1 posted on 01/13/2021 4:00:23 PM PST by walford
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To: walford

No, he did not.


2 posted on 01/13/2021 4:02:14 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

They literally twist reality at the Fascist Left Beeb.

People were already there trying to get through before President Trump finished his speech 1.5 miles away.

Suspected Antifa was leading it up front.


3 posted on 01/13/2021 4:03:31 PM PST by romanesq (TRUSTY THE PLAN! So ChiCom Joe is the Plan? Que magnificent! /s 👹.)
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To: walford

The break-in to the Capital occurred when Trump was only 15 minutes into his speech!!!!

Therefore, he could NOT have incited the violence!


4 posted on 01/13/2021 4:05:53 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: walford

NO they DID NOT.


5 posted on 01/13/2021 4:06:02 PM PST by PGalt
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To: walford

Was listening to Mark Levin, the people who broke into the Capitol could not have heard Trump’s speech. It’s a 45 minute walk from were Trump was speaking to the Capitol.


6 posted on 01/13/2021 4:06:09 PM PST by Bulwinkle (Bulwinkke, a.k.a. Daffy Duck )
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To: walford

Remember this?
Kill the Bill Rally

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/conservatives-rally-to-kill-the-bill/


7 posted on 01/13/2021 4:06:23 PM PST by silverleaf (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: walford

‘We won this election, and we won it by a landslide’

Yes.


8 posted on 01/13/2021 4:06:23 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: walford

I have to say that his lack of words may have been part of the problem. Meaning there were no new words, no new statements, no new evidence, no new Witnesses, nothing but just another rally.

People drove and flew hundreds or thousands of miles. Spent a lot of money on hotel rooms, gas, food. For what? I still can’t figure it out. I don’t have an extra nickel these days or I would have gone. And I would have been infuriated if I went to that rally and nothing happened out of the ordinary. So I can easily see how decent people could turn their anger elsewhere. That’s also given that I’m certain antifa had a lot to do with the actual violence that took place at the Capitol.


9 posted on 01/13/2021 4:06:54 PM PST by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: walford

You would have to ask the rioters themselves. On the face of it I don’t see anything in what he said that encouraged violence or illegal activites, If others misunderstand his intent then that’s their fault and you would have to prove intent on the President’s part. And I don’t see that anywhere either.


10 posted on 01/13/2021 4:07:44 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: romanesq

“Suspected Antifa was leading it up front.”

Of course it was. Hell, for days before they were publicly saying that was exactly what they planned to do.


11 posted on 01/13/2021 4:07:55 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: walford

Anybody saying anything else is a LIAR.

The lie is the weapon used most often by the criminal.


12 posted on 01/13/2021 4:08:00 PM PST by PGalt
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To: walford

Good post. I agree with you.


13 posted on 01/13/2021 4:08:13 PM PST by nuconvert ( Warning: Accused of being a radical militarist. Approach with caution.)
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To: walford
No.

Antifa had already started the violence.

14 posted on 01/13/2021 4:08:19 PM PST by kiryandil (New Movie: The Assassination Of Ashli Babbitt By The Anonymous Coward)
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To: walford

No he did not he stated peacefully in the speech maybe they should replay Maxine Waters insurrection speech in 2017 and then show the violence Trump supporters have had to endure


15 posted on 01/13/2021 4:08:47 PM PST by Lod881019
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To: All

Apologies for the formatting. The long dashes were supposed to have carriage returns before and after.


16 posted on 01/13/2021 4:09:34 PM PST by walford (https://www.facebook.com/wralford)
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To: walford

I read the entire transcript, only a lunatic would arrive at such a conclusion.


17 posted on 01/13/2021 4:10:28 PM PST by Amish with an attitude
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To: ought-six

“...for days before they were publicly saying that was exactly what they planned to do.”


Do you have a links to quotes?


18 posted on 01/13/2021 4:10:51 PM PST by walford (https://www.facebook.com/wralford)
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To: walford

Nope he did not incite violence. The assault on the captol was underway 20 minutes before he finished his speech.

The fact is that certain radical groups were involved, and likely emplaced there by Trump’s political opponents.

The Rush to impeach the president was done before truth of what happened could be dicovered. The whole Dem party and its undergroud have been shown to be simply bogus, including the coordinated efforts of Schumer, Pelosi, FBI and the Capital Police ( who got royally screwed.)

Kudos to our Presient. We are 75 million plus strong. And we will be comin’ for ‘em by n by. The left is scared to death of us.


19 posted on 01/13/2021 4:11:47 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama Fascism:http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: walford

Not at all


20 posted on 01/13/2021 4:12:06 PM PST by Morpheus2009 (If you want me to be afraid, then be consistent in your logic, standards, and your lies!)
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