Posted on 01/07/2021 9:35:42 AM PST by Kaslin
I don’t see it as a tactical loss.
I see it as a tactical victory.
The politicians were running.
Smells like victory to me.
It didn’t have to be a big, planned operation.
The politicians showed their cowardice and ran.
Brave politicians, honest politicians, would have talked to the people.
Our cowardly politicians ran like chickens.
Absolute nonsense. We protested at the Capitol. The crowd was strong, loud and exuberant. The lack of preparation by the capitol police was stunning. They tossed flashbangs into the crowd and deployed teargas.
At one point a few people clambered up to the bleachers. When it got to about 100, a handful of cops came out and herded them to a lower level. By herded, it seemed they pointed and said “go down there.” I didn’t see any clubs or pepper spray used at that point. They did use lots of pepper spray at other times.
The video from inside seemed very sedate from most. Like the article writer said, they respected the velvet rope lines. They were careful not to wreck the artifacts. That’s not the actions of rioters.
Was the breach correct? Probably not. Was it a riot? Absolutely not.
I look at it this way, in the future, yesterday will be looked at as the “nice” protest.
Help requested for Declaration of removal of the Consent of the Governed.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3922523/posts
The Declaration of the People of the States of America,
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.—That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, —That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.—Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present Federal Government of these United States of America is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over the People of the Sovereign States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
It has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
The Courts of the Federal Government have refused to hear the complaints of lawfully elected president regarding the fraudulent elections of certain States.
The Courts of the Federal Government have refused to hear the complaints of the States as to the fraudulent elections of other States.
The Courts of the Federal Government have refused to hear the complaints of the citizens of the States as to the fraudulent elections of certain States.
The Federal Government in violation of its constitutional duty to ensure a republican form of government to the States permitted certain states to conduct elections not in accordance with their own laws. When these violations were brought to the attention of said government it failed to act.
When presented with ample evidence of fraudulent votes, vote tampering, failure to follow the laws of the State in which the election was taking place and impeding lawful election observers. The Federal Government disregarded the evidence and failed to act to decertify these elections.
When presented with ample evidence of voting machines that were not designed and built to ensure fair elections and resistance to tampering the Federal Government failed to act to rectify the damaged elections or to preclude the use of these machines in subsequent elections.
The Federal Government failed to prevent an ineligible candidate from being placed before the people for election to the office of the Vice-President of the United States.
The Federal Government failed to prevent an ineligible candidate from being placed before the people for election to the office of the President of the United States.
The Courts of the United States when presented with evidence of ineligibility of the said candidates refused to hear the complaints of the people.
The Federal Government has erected a multitude of Federal Agencies, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance. The Federal Government has imposed on the citizens laws and regulations that force the people to act against their religious beliefs.
The Federal Government has, in times of peace, sent our Army to foreign lands without a declaration of war.
The Federal Government has created agencies independent of and superior to the State’s Civil power.
The Federal Government’s courts have struck down our States constitutions amendments, and dully passed legislation without just cause. For protecting Federal officers, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of a timely Trial by Jury:
For failing to enforce our boarders and ensure that aliens crossing our boarders are peaceful law-abiding individuals.
In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A government whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.
Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our elected officials. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their courts to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of our constitutional rights. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.
We, therefore, the People of the United States of America, in Good Conscience, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, withdraw our consent to be governed by the Federal Government of the United States of America.
Aggression and energy attract people.
What looks like fun and “the world turned upside down” attracts people - the silly furry viking dude in the Senate for instance, that is classic, even classically classic, a figure very like a Greco-Roman Sylvanus, say, in one of those festivals where the point is to get people not to take everything so seriously.
Bravery attracts people.
And above all martyrs attract people.
It was great fun until the people with sticks up their butts started shooting.
Not everyone folds as easily as you do. The Left and these elites are not going to like you no matter how hard you grovel at their feet. Grow a damn spine and stand up for the people who fought for all of us yesterday at the Capital, they are true Patriots.
Milquetoast pearl clutchers such as yourself are why Conservatism and the GOP constantly lose.
[I got flamed yesterday for posting that “the storming of the Capitol” was a terrible thing that would hurt MAGA and the president. So many Freepers were essentially fist pumping in support of this mob. Now they’re saying it was actually antifa posing as Trump people - an admission that I was right and it created a huge setback for MAGA and Trump
Apologies accepted]
I see the birth of a new, scrappier Republican Party. Ashli Babbit may have left us, but she will not be forgotten. Anyone who is not on board will be swept away. All we need are credible primary challengers.
>And if he thinks our marginalization isn’t ensured by the MSM/deep state techno-totalitarians no matter what he’s a moron.
That we have been marginalized for years is why yesterday happened.
Honestly even if it was Antifa doing the destruction, fact of the matter is that a bunch of MAGA supporters went along. And yes this put the cause back for years. There was no reason to go into the capital. If we had a fair media then maybe but we don’t and trump supporters know that.
Just terrible...We should instead wave our flags harder, write our Congressman and vote them out! Oh wait, how are you going to vote for a legitimate candidate when the elections are nothing but a fraud, produced and directed by professional political career criminals?
How's that working out for ya?
The author makes some mystifying statements that I simply don't think are accurate, but he has a way with words that is epic.
The crowd was not a Tea Party crowd. They brought their folding chairs and their canes. They drove more than they flew. They spat their dip on the ground. They peed on the trees. And they didn’t just disrespect the cops guarding the Capitol, they crushed past them.
Those who were the target of the protesters wrath yesterday should be grateful it was not the ghosts of all those aborted dead rising to mete out justice. That would have been a true moment of carnage.
You can really tell who the GOP establishment types are like Domenech because they carefully avoid the topic of the stolen election and the installation of a sham president over the country.
Domenech is more subtle than most, but he paints a false equivalency between BLM and MAGA which can only be posited if you avoid the elephant in the room, which is that the presidential election was rigged and the GOPe has chosen to stand with those who killed free and honest elections.
And the Neocons are not “unserious.” They are as serious as a Soviet gulag.
Why does Left-wing civil disobedience result in electoral wins while Right-wing civil disobedience result in “setbacks”? Until we get our minds right (and stop playing to the narrative foisted upon us) we’ll continue to be losers.
storming of the Capitol” was a terrible thing
Just terrible“
Yes. It has given the left and the GOPe the excuse to end Trumps presidency as of yesterday.
I got news for ya Ben. The kind of Republicans your father in law was, the kind you favor....RINO corporate shills, globalist country club surrender monkeys...them. Well, they’re dying. They’re on their way out. They don’t realize it yet, but rest assured, they are. You all simply don’t have enough people and the truth is that most people are just sick of you. They realize you are far too weak to ever stand up to the Left - and you don’t serve most Americans anyway.
The “Deplorables” - that is the middle and working class as well as nationalists and Patriots from the upper middle class are going to take over. We not only have the energy you lack, we also have the ability to reach out to others you can only dream of appealing to.
Get ready to watch a lot of your RINO icons go down in flames in the next few Republican primaries. All the bright and ambitious stars in the party - Ted Cruz, Josh Hawley, Kristi Noem, Ron Desantis, they’re already with us. They can see which way the wind is blowing.
“Honestly even if it was Antifa doing the destruction, fact of the matter is that a bunch of MAGA supporters went along. And yes this put the cause back for years. There was no reason to go into the capital.”
Correct.
You will also see financial institutions going further in their policies restricting or outright banning certain businesses from having or accessing funds. You want to use your credit card to set up monthly donations to your church? Better not be one that speaks out against abortion.
No, the vast majority of those who were there to protest were NOT rioters. That is the issue here. A relative handful of people whose affiliations are yet to be documented, the actual rioters, succeeded in the marginalization of 75 million Americans.
As for the rest of those present sans rioters, note the author points out, "stayed within the velvet ropes." Other reports have a portion of the crowd trying to stop an obvious antifa type from breaking windows. Those are the archetypal protestors of the right, protestors who would clean up after themselves, leaving the site cleaner than it was found when they arrived.
Whether by design or by accident, look at how the left and never-Trump crowd is trying to capitalize on this situation. All that is missing now is the helicopter landing on the White House roof with a few staffers hanging off the skids.
We're screwed.
Why did you evade the questions?
Since ya can’t vote your way out of this, what are ya going to do? Please tell me!
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