Posted on 01/03/2021 1:19:30 AM PST by RandFan
MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - Mexican authorities said they are studying the case of a 32-year-old female doctor who was hospitalized after receiving the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine.
The doctor, whose name has not been released, was admitted to the intensive care unit of a public hospital in the northern state of Nuevo Leon after she experienced seizures, difficulty breathing and a skin rash.
“The initial diagnosis is encephalomyelitis,” the Health Ministry said in a statement released on Friday night. Encephalomyelitis is an inflammation of the brain and spinal cord.
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Your knowledge of genetics immunology and virology is as pathetic as your sunny disposition. Many have attempted to teach you but you prefer to argue and name call rather than try to learn something. You are. it deserving of the time it would take to try again. enjoy your ignorance as you apparently do
You are either a liar, willfully ignorant, stupid, or a combination thereof.
You don't even know what mRNA is. You don't know what a virus is or how it replicates. But by golly, do you keep on talking about it and spreading false information. "Genetic material" and "genetical modification" are far from the same thing, yet you just talk like one is the same as another. Do you not know how ridiculous the things you are saying are?
You have absolutely no credibility.
So you've had a viral infection...by your definition, you are permanently "genetically modified" by having this infection since viruses replicate using the method you claim will "genetically modify" you.
“These are the publicized immediate bad reactions. No one knows about long term negative outcomes because of inadequate testing time. “
How long until adequate testing time has been achieved?
You failed.
You reverted back to your default of telling me what I know.
I didn’t ask either of you for an opinion on my credibility, I asked simply for either one of you geniuses to refute the very simple statement that genetic material being modified and injected into your body involves the modification of genetic material.
You won’t do it.
You’ll pretend that I said this process modifies your genetics, which is of course a lie neither of you can let go of. I didn’t say that in this thread or the other one. Your own phony self-righteousness led you to that, not me.
I stated, truthfully, that this ersatz “vaccine” isn’t one. It’s a modification of cells inside your body, using a modified genetic material that is intended to cause the creation of an immune system response to certain proteins that you hope the immune system will identify with the SARS - CoV2 virus only.
That hasn’t been proven.
But back to the issue...
Modifying genetic material in order to cause our bodies to create a non-natural protein intended to trigger an immune system response, that may or may not create specific T-cells intended to fight off a virus that in the case of most of the vaccinated, their body has never been exposed to, is the very definition of genetic modification.
You don’t like that being said, but neither of you has anything to say about it...
I don’t see that supporting your credibility.
I’m sure you read just like me that the vaccine doesn’t prevent you from getting covid and spreading it, the vaccine lessens the impact. That’s why you’ll still need to mask up and social distance even after the vaccine. So no, I still don’t see why someone under 40 and healthy would get the vaccine. To each their own though, if you want it, get it.
I’d love to be tested to see if I even need a vaccine, or if I already have some degree of immunity to the virus, but that option is not available to me, either.
There are other options such as QUERCETIN + ZINC + D + C + B-COMPLEX to boost your resistance, or 350mg/day of BHT which will kill the virus outright.
There is nothing even remotely correct about post 36. It is a bad amalgamation of whacked out left wind conspiracy talking points from the internet that are unproven. And anyone who doesn’t know what an amino acid is should not be commenting on anything scientific.
If you read the data it does prevent you from getting the illness. it even if it just prevented severe illness it would be worth it. The ICUs are full of people that work agree with that
“That’s why you’ll still need to mask up and social distance even after the vaccine.”
Question, seriously, are we to wear a mask forever and ever, and “closed” forever and ever?
Basically what I got from Pfizer data was 43,000 were in trial. 84 with placebo got covid, 8 with vaccine got covid. Later on, Fauci himself was saying vaccine doesn’t prevent transmission. Based on that, I wouldn’t consider the vaccine if under 40 and healthy. Not enough data to satisfy me for risks. People disagree with me, including those much more credentialed, that’s fine, I get it. My main fight is to make sure a free people can make choices on such things.
No kidding. There’s a local political pundit that for the most part tries to straddle the fence but often supports conservative politicians. His forum is plagued with leftist comments to the extent his website really useless. And this is in a pure red state.
Fortunately here at FR lib trolls are easily spotted and called out. Nonetheless their remarks do take an anxiety elevating toll.
fauci has no credibility. The he vaccine prevents disease and yin can spread what you don’t have. Asymptomatic spread has also been thoroughly debunked. However I agree the vaccine should be an individual choice and will fight to keep it that way.
I’m really hoping we’re not pushed into civil disobedience to get out of this. I wouldn’t be surprised if the biggest fight out of this is with big corporations (they benefit from lockdowns) and their shaming ‘karen’ foot soldiers.
Yes. . .but the question remains: How long is a study of the long term after effect to last? Forever and ever?
You need to find a mirror. And how dare you, you liar. Apparently that poster is far more knowledgeable than you! The mRNA gene therapy most definitely tells the human cells to produce synthetic genetic codes, and you know it, or should know it. By definition any gene therapy has the potential to cause genetic mutations. Lying does not flatter you.
Why are you and dr gasbag so very threatened by these discussions? Every thread, you show up and insinuate that these adults are incapable of acquiring knowledge, unable to make decisions for themselves, somehow less than you. How arrogant, and unseemly. You attack, but you NEVER can refute, you never provide useful, clarifying information.
In no circumstance ever do you qualify to demand that I do anything with my body. If you are a doctor, which I doubt, you only merely qualify to suggest, to give an opinion, never to demand. I have never in my life known a medical doctor to demean, insult, belittle and cajole people. That you find it necessary to support your posts with such explains everything I need to know about you.
I have no vested interested in what anyone does about this garbage “vaccine”. Why do you find a need to force it on others?
You apparently have no reading comprehension. I have never said i wanted the vaccine forced on anyone in fact quite the opposite. But your fine reading comprehension extends to your knowledge of genetics medicine immunology and virology. You are so far off it’s laughable. Now kindly piss off
100 years at minimum, of course. Ideally, several generations studied from birth to death.
Nevermind that under these insane criteria, no new treatment, therapy, or drug would be available to anyone for the next century. But hey, anything to scare people into making the “right” decision.
"Injecting it into your body" is probably where a lot of this confusion comes from. We ingest RNA and DNA all the time. Every bite of every hamburger you've ever eaten is packed with that animal's DNA, yet you've never grown horns or hooves. There's a reason for that.
A copy of your DNA is stored in every cell in your body. Your body has about 30,000,000,000,000 cells. Each cell has a cell membrane that prevents random things from entering the cell. Anything moving in or out of the cell requires some method of transport. Inside the cell is the cytoplasm, which is all the material that's inside the cell, but outside the nucleus. The nucleus is another membrane that separates the cell's cytoplasm from the DNA that's inside. Again, to cross that membrane, you need a transport mechanism.
Your body requires synthesis of proteins for survival. Each cell does this. To synthesize a protein, enzymes inside the cell nucleus unravel the DNA there and make a copy of the part that encodes for that protein. That copy is made by assembling some mRNA, which is then transported out of the nucleus and into the cytoplasm. In the cytoplasm, it encounters ribosomes, attaches to them, and the ribosomes then create the encoded protein. This is how the process works: a segment of DNA is transcribed by building mRNA. The mRNA doesn't do anything to the DNA. The two don't interact that way.
The mRNA vaccines are composed of an mRNA segment which encodes a protein found in SARS-CoV-2. It's a protein that sticks out of the surface and helps it cross cell membranes. The protein itself is harmless on its own, but your immune system will recognize it as foreign. The mRNA can't pass the cell membrane on its own, so it's enclosed in a lipid (fat) shell. When that shell encounters a cell, it merges into the cell membrane releasing the mRNA into the cytoplasm. Remember, there's no DNA in the cytoplasm. Once there, the mRNA encounters a ribosome and the ribosome dutifully produces the encoded protein. The immune system sees this happening and believes the body is under attack. Its response creates long term immunity.
So as you can see, at no time has the mRNA come into contact with any of your DNA. Nor can it. If it could, it wouldn't matter anyway as mRNA can't make changes to DNA. mRNA is simply the scratch paper used to transport instructions from the nucleus to the ribosomes. There's no danger of any modification because that would be the opposite of how your entire biological system operates.
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