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Lindsey bucks McConnell: $2,000 payments 'not socialism'
The Hill ^ | 01/01/21 04:34 PM EST | BY ZACK BUDRYK

Posted on 01/02/2021 9:16:25 AM PST by RandFan

Sen. Lindsay Graham (R-S.C.) pushed back Friday on Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s (R-Ky.) characterization of $2,000 coronavirus relief payments to Americans as “socialism for the rich.”

“With all due respect to my Republican colleagues, a $2k direct payment for individuals and families who are struggling is not socialism,” Graham tweeted. “In my view it is necessary in the times in which we live.”

Last month, congressional leaders reached a long-sought deal on a new coronavirus package that included $600 checks for taxpayers, though both Democrats and President Trump have called for the amount to be increased to $2,000.

The House has passed a stand-alone bill increasing the payments, but McConnell has signaled it is going nowhere in the Senate.

"We do not need to let the Speaker of the House do socialism for rich people in order to help those who need help," McConnell said Thursday after blocking the measure for the third consecutive days.

McConnell has introduced a proposal that would tie the larger checks to tech and electoral provisions also supported by Trump, but the measure is unlikely to reach the floor before the Senate’s session ends Sunday


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: gop; lindseygraham; sc; senate
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To: ConservativeMind
Does anyone here wonder why Pelosi got the severed pig’s head and McConnell didn’t?

The vandals didn't want to give Mitch a free meal.

21 posted on 01/02/2021 10:06:18 AM PST by MarMema
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To: The Pack Knight

Let’s talk Politics and not all the Fiscal issues. You have Trump pushing the $2000 checks. You have Polls saying 80% of voters supporting the checks. You have the GA Republican Senators running for reelection supporting the checks. Any addition to the Deficit will be Biden’s problem. Just what the hell was McConnell gaining by killing this? “Politically” it just doesn’t make sense. Somebody must have their hand in his pocket.


22 posted on 01/02/2021 10:10:05 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: KarlInOhio

Well, regardless, it’s useless for those of us whom paid the most taxes, as we each get $0 checks...


23 posted on 01/02/2021 10:10:47 AM PST by dinodino ( )
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To: vpintheak

It isn’t socialism. You’re an idiot if you believe that giving us back our own money is welfare. It’s giving me back a fraction of what I have paid in by being overtaxed.


24 posted on 01/02/2021 10:12:29 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama (Self Defense is a Basic Human Right!)
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To: The Pack Knight

You’re right. I withdraw. McConnell is your friend. Go with that.


25 posted on 01/02/2021 10:20:24 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: RandFan

Graham is right: it is not “socialism.” It is a handout of money ... vote-buying, we might say.

It really can’t even be called “redistribution,” because the debt is so incalculably stratospheric that there may never be any actual ... anything ... behind this.


26 posted on 01/02/2021 10:24:14 AM PST by Tax-chick (O Radiant Dawn, splendor of eternal light, sun of justice, come and shine on us!)
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To: Tax-chick

I still don’t understand the “Political” rational for McConnell’s actions.


27 posted on 01/02/2021 10:27:01 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: RandFan

I say give me back as much as possible, before Biden gives it to some moron who never paid into the system to begin with. Starve the beast!


28 posted on 01/02/2021 10:38:03 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

I have no idea what any of them are thinking these days.


29 posted on 01/02/2021 10:43:43 AM PST by Tax-chick (O Radiant Dawn, splendor of eternal light, sun of justice, come and shine on us!)
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To: ConservativeMind
Does anyone here wonder why Pelosi got the severed pig’s head and McConnell didn’t?

Where do you even buy a pigs head? I don't see them as a thing in the local supermarkets.

30 posted on 01/02/2021 10:44:05 AM PST by Flick Lives (#resist)
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To: RandFan

For me a $600 or $2000 payment would be a small tax refund since I’ve paid a lot more than that in Federal tax.

These payments aren’t welfare payments to me. They are my money that’s being given back to me.


31 posted on 01/02/2021 10:50:45 AM PST by cymbeline
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To: The Pack Knight

The 2,000 dollars may be welfare to you and others who don’t pay taxes. But if will be a rebate for me and other genuine tax payers.


32 posted on 01/02/2021 10:53:51 AM PST by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Maybe, although I am very skeptical that this stimulus fight will have any impact on the Georgia runoff. Also, politics are about more than just how an issue polls at this moment. If it wasn’t, then why doesn’t every Republican just sign on to amnesty for illegals or for “universal background checks,” when most polls say those measures are popular as well?

Besides, stopping the giveaway is the right thing to do, and I’d like to think our elected representatives do the right thing for its own sake from time to time.


33 posted on 01/02/2021 10:56:15 AM PST by The Pack Knight
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To: Tax-chick

“When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.”

I used to think Ben Franklin said that, but I guess it can only be supposedly traced to 1951. I wonder if it is true, or if we have actually created an indefinitely sustainable and more effective version of the Roman’s bread and circuses strategy.

Freegards


34 posted on 01/02/2021 10:59:26 AM PST by Ransomed
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

GA Senate is gone. Doesn’t matter what Mitch was doing.


35 posted on 01/02/2021 11:00:52 AM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: napscoordinator

If you qualify for this “rebate,” then I pay more taxes than you do. Yet you get the money and I don’t, because I make too much. And, as you point out, people who don’t pay taxes also get it. That makes it a means-tested benefit, not a tax rebate. Means-tested benefits are what we commonly call “welfare.” Sorry if you are uncomfortable with that, but it’s the reality.


36 posted on 01/02/2021 11:02:17 AM PST by The Pack Knight
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To: Ransomed
I wonder if it is true, or if we have actually created an indefinitely sustainable and more effective version of the Roman’s bread and circuses strategy.

Stein's Law: If something can't go on for ever, it will eventually stop.

I do not thing the world's current monetary and fiscal system is the One Thing that can go on forever.

Therefore, Boom. One day, Boom.

37 posted on 01/02/2021 11:03:15 AM PST by Tax-chick (O Radiant Dawn, splendor of eternal light, sun of justice, come and shine on us!)
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To: The Pack Knight

Elected Representatives doing the “Right Thing”? If you believe that, you are in for a Rude Awakening.


38 posted on 01/02/2021 11:03:26 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Ransomed

The quote comes from De Tocqueville’s Deomcracy in America. The idea probably goes back at least as far as Cicero.


39 posted on 01/02/2021 11:11:04 AM PST by Crucial ( )
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To: AndyJackson

My friend is the one not trying to give away my tax dollars to people who didn’t earn it. In this instance, that does happen to be McConnell.


40 posted on 01/02/2021 11:25:11 AM PST by The Pack Knight
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