Posted on 12/30/2020 6:44:45 AM PST by SeekAndFind
I guess whatever evidence Team Trump has is not appealing to the other two Branches along with most of the Executive Branch.
“The peaceful transfer of power” promises is over taking the “Trust the Plan” meme. I am not sure which one is more of a myopic fantasy.
This just takes the cake.
If Pence is part of the coup, then we don’t have a choice. If we want to remain free, it’s going to mean actual war. Not courts, not legislation, actually going out with weapons in hand, locked and loaded, and taking back the country or die trying.
If Pence doesn’t do the right thing and Biden/Harris is ‘officially’ elected, the instant it happens, we need to move.
I honestly believe that if we and Trump do not win the day, the vast majority of us will either be dead or in prison camps by summer of 2022.
You think there was no indisputable fraud in GA? If Pence passes he is inviable to any Trump voter in the future. Never thought Trump should have picked him in the first place, not a fighter.
Are you comparing Trump to Queeg?
Great movie by the way. I own a number of vintage war movies and that's always near the top of my queue. Just a little under "Battleground" with James Whitmore and Van Johnson.
Pence got an envelope at H’s funeral.
Without indisputable evidence, Pence shouldn’t do what is suggested. I love Trump, hate rhinos, and I’m in GA holding my nose and voting for the R senate candidates.
But without overwhelming indisputable evidence, having a VP do this is a terrible precedent. It sets the stage that even the electors votes are meaningless.
The state legislators are the ones that could have and should have intervened in each state to name electors. The idea that the sitting VP will override the electors provided by the states, in order to maintain power is terrifying long term.
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Afraid I have to agree. No one is riding to our rescue at the 11th hour. There is no good ending to this movie.
The only hope is Swamp 2.0 screws up so badly, which has an extremely high probability, that the Biden administration is even more hated than LBJ.
I read article several days ago that Pence will be leaving the Country,
I guess for vacation after the Electors vote Jan 6. If true, looks like Pence
will betray Trump, then leave the country when the heat on him begins.
He has been all along. Yet another terrible personnel pick pushed by Javonka. It is enough to make you think that Kushner has been Trump’s handler all along.
This whole business of throwing Pence under the bus is stupid. Even if he fails to act correctly on January 6, President Trump must have more arrows in his quiver to overcome the steal. Arrows such as the insurrection act and martial law.
I would argue that even if Pence throws out the illegal EC votes, the rats would react violently enough so that martial law would need to be declared.
As I say, the whole idea of putting all our eggs in the Pence basket is ridiculous.
Yes.
And you will be crushed. As far as the state governments, the federal government, the military, etc. are concerned the results of the election are valid. Any attempt to to use violence to keep Trump in power will be seen as an illegal attempt to overturn a valid election and will be dealt with accordingly.
If Trump and his team (and Powell and Lin) had won some court cases and gotten judges to say there was election fraud/malfeasance then you might have seen some arms of the government siding with you, but without that they won’t.
News is just out this morning that Pence’s trip to Ireland has been canceled.
I got an envelope in the mailbox yesterday. just a bill.
What is your point?
“Can they ALL be disloyal?”
I wonder. If by chance Pence is not going to be a team player (Trump’s team, that is), I think Trump would have outed him in a tweet much the same he does others that are disloyal, such as China Mitch.
I’ve noticed a very strong propensity here at FR to be very negative in just about all respects regarding the election. The defeatism, the Debbie Downers, the posting of negative threads and the falling for negative propaganda as though it were the gospel.
We need to wait this out before we judge Pence.
It seems that we are surrounded by traitors. That includes the “professional” de-moralizers out here on FR
This is where Occam's Razor, the invaluable and enduring paradigm of wisdom articulated in the middle ages, comes into play. Given the choice between 2 possibilities, choose the one that is simpler. That is how nature works.
“ It is enough to make you think that Kushner has been Trump’s handler all along”
There are a lot of people who just have not been paying attention.
Starting with why Ivanka and not the boys. And how could a man like Jared Kushner whose reaction to his first Trump rally was fear be allowed within 100 miles of the Oval Office.
This story, I’m afraid, is going to have a very sad ending and it will hurt a lot of people here.
Pence was solid in the VP debates and elsewhere. This is all conjecture designed to whip us up into a circular firing squad.
And it's working. Trump is a solid President but he's not infallible (look at the AGs). He has fought every step of the way. But with the ensuing the weeping and gnashing of teeth after he signed and redlined the latest stimulus package, you'd think he was Jeb! by the commentary.
Well stated.
“NSF?”
“National Science Foundation?”
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