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Vice President Pence Must Reject Swing State Biden Electors Absent Certification by State Lawmakers
The Epoch Times ^ | December 28, 2020 | Stephen B. Meister

Posted on 12/29/2020 1:36:40 PM PST by mbj

[Read the original - it has much better formatting.]

(Article was updated: December 29, 2020)

Governors and state administrators have trampled upon the exclusive constitutional power of state legislatures to decide the manner of selecting presidential electors

In late November, I wrote on these pages that “the Founding Fathers made a wise and prescient choice in setting up the Electoral College and vesting the state legislatures with exclusive authority to decide upon a state’s presidential electors. The multifaceted fraud issues that infect national elections (especially this one) aren’t easily and timely raised within the tight contours of a judicial ‘case or controversy.’”

Later, I wrote that lawmakers in the six swing states still in dispute—Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona, and Nevada—should adopt “reclamation resolutions” reclaiming their exclusive constitutional power under the Electors’ Clause (Article II, Section 1) to decide the “manner” by which their states choose presidential electors.

I argued that, absent such formal resolutions putting the two sets of “dueling electors” on equal footing—each of the six swing states and New Mexico saw Biden and Trump electors cast votes at the Electoral College—“objections” to the Biden-pledged electors (formally certified by those states’ governors) would never pass both houses of Congress at the Jan. 6 joint session of Congress.

That the objections to the Biden electors wouldn’t pass both houses was a given, in light of the Democratic majority in the House, and the cowardice so far shown by most GOP senators, “led” by Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), who has abandoned President Donald Trump (not to mention any semblance of principles) despite the irrefutable evidence of massive voter fraud.

However, the six swing state legislatures won’t meet at a regular session until after Jan. 6, and they can’t be called into an earlier special session without the say-so of the governors (all of whom are Democrat other than Georgia’s Brian Kemp and Arizona’s Doug Ducey). Unelected secretaries of state and election officials (who are nothing but Democratic operatives) have certified their fraudulent election results without consulting state lawmakers.

Thus, to adopt the reclamation resolutions I proposed, the lawmakers would somehow have to overcome their inability to call a special session without gubernatorial intervention, and then act in contravention of state law (though in compliance with the Constitution) in asserting their right to override the fraudulent “certified” election results and appoint Trump-pledged electors. Lawsuit Contends State and Federal Statutes Disenfranchising the State Lawmakers Are Unconstitutional and Void, as Applied

Given this constitutional crisis, on Dec. 22, lawyers for the Amistad Project of the Thomas More Society brought a lawsuit in the federal district court for the D.C. Circuit, making the case that the electors clause of the Constitution grants each state’s legislature the “exclusive and non-delegable” power and duty to determine the manner of selecting the state’s presidential electors.

That is, federal and state statutes relating to the Electoral College have shifted the power to decide the “manner” of choosing a state’s presidential electors from the legislative branch of the state’s government to the executive branch (i.e., the governors) and even un-elected administrative officials (e.g., the secretary of state).

For example, federal statutes—namely, 3 U.S.C. Sections 5 and 6—establish a process where, in contrast to the exclusive power being vested in the state legislatures as mandated by Article II of the Constitution, presidential electors are designated by the governor, following a popular vote, without any post-election certification by the legislature of the state. Most state statutes follow this process. That’s why we see so many news articles reporting that the legislators of six disputed swing states claim there was massive election fraud, yet they seem powerless—ironically, despite their exclusive constitutional power—to do anything about it.

In short, not only have these federal and state statutory laws not faithfully implemented the Constitution’s vesting of the state legislatures with exclusive authority to decide the manner of choosing electors, they have instead, and contrary to the Constitution, vested the states’ executive branches with such authority, to the exclusion of the state legislatures. The Exclusive Power of the State Legislatures to Determine the Manner of Choosing Electors Is ‘Non-Delegable’

As I previously wrote, “unlike men, all laws are not created equal.” The U.S. Constitution reigns supreme. Thus, the Amistad suit contends that these federal and state statutes, as applied, are unconstitutional and as such void, and asks the D.C. federal court to issue a judgment declaring that the votes of the Biden-pledged electors from the six disputed swing states not be counted at the joint session of Congress on Jan. 6.

Of course, while the federal laws relating to the Electoral College were enacted by Congress, the parallel state laws were enacted by the respective state legislatures. Thus, to the extent these state laws do shift power to decide the manner of choosing electors from a state’s legislature to its executive branch, such a shift was previously approved by the state lawmakers themselves.

It’s for precisely this reason that the Amistad suit argues that the Constitution vests the state legislatures with both the “exclusive” and “non-delegable” power to decide the manner of choosing a state’s electors. That is, absent the constitutional “non-delegability” of the state legislatures’ power to decide the manner of choosing presidential electors, their previous enactment of state statutes conferring such power upon the governors would defeat the central claim of the suit.

I agree with the Amistad lawyers on this score. As I previously noted, in McPherson v. Blacker, 146 U.S. 1, 29-30 (1892), the U.S. Supreme Court wrote, “There is no doubt of the right of the legislature to resume the power [of appointing presidential electors] at any time, for it can neither be taken away nor abdicated.”

That is, to the extent state statutes purport to give away to the executive branch the exclusive power of the state legislatures to choose the manner of appointing presidential electors, such delegation (even though grounded in state statutes) is an unconstitutional abdication of the electors clause power, and therefore invalid. The Courts Can’t Choose a State’s Electors, but They Can Adjudicate Violations of the Constitution and Law

Given the exclusive and non-delegable nature of the state legislatures’ Article II power over the manner of appointing presidential electors, how can the courts, even the U.S. Supreme Court, intervene and decide who the “true and correct” electors for a given state are? Amistad claims they cannot. Thus, in footnote 55 to their complaint, the Amistad lawyers wrote:

“’Is the U.S. Supreme Court the final adjudicator for certification of Presidential electors?’ The Plaintiffs’ answer is no; the respective state legislatures are the final determiner of post-election certifications of Presidential votes and of Presidential electors—and, in a non-delegable way.”

Yet the Amistad lawyers are seeking judicial intervention over an election matter by this very suit. And that’s not a contradiction. Though the state legislatures are the exclusive body to determine the “manner” of choosing a state’s presidential electors, the courts can, indeed must, adjudicate violations of law, including when federal and state statutes violate the Constitution or when an individual’s constitutionally guaranteed rights are infringed.

Thus, the Amistad lawyers don’t ask the D.C. district court to decide who the correct electors are for any swing state; rather they seek a court ruling that the federal and state statutes purporting to divest the state legislatures of the power to decide the manner of choosing a state’s electors are unconstitutional and void, as applied, and that—because there has been no post-election certification by the state legislatures of the Biden-pledged electors—the votes of those electors may not be constitutionally counted by Vice President Mike Pence, as president of the Senate, at the joint session of Congress on Jan. 6.

Said differently, the Amistad suit doesn’t ask the court to adjudicate election results, only that certain federal and state statutes violate the Constitution, and that the resulting election process was constitutionally defective, and yielded electoral votes that can’t be counted (absent post-election certification).

Similarly, the courts can and do decide cases where individual constitutional rights are infringed by election procedures, such as where equal protection rights of voters are infringed by such procedures. Indeed, that was the basis for the Supreme Court’s intervention in the “hanging chad” Bush v. Gore cases, in which different Florida counties considered the hanging chad ballots in differing manners, and as a result one party—and those individuals who voted for that party’s candidate—were unconstitutionally favored other the other (and those individuals who voted for that other party’s candidate). Zuckerberg’s $400 Million Funding Allegedly Violated Equal Protection Rights of GOP Voters

Indeed, the Amistad suit argues an equal protection violation as well. The suit makes a compelling case that Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg’s funding of the Center for Technology and Civic Life (CTCL), to the tune of more than $400 million, resulted in egregious violations of swing state voters’ equal protection rights under the 14th Amendment because the ballot drop boxes were intentionally placed disproportionately in Democratic strongholds.

To understand the scale of Zuckerberg’s interference, consider that, on March 27, Trump signed into law the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act (CARES), which provided $400 million to states to manage the 2020 elections during the pandemic. Thus, Zuckerberg’s funding exceeded that of the entire federal government.

For example, the suit alleges that “CTCL provided funds to 100 percent of the Pennsylvania counties carried by Hillary Clinton in 2016, including over $10 million to Philadelphia County. The charity required the heavily Democratic county to establish 800 ‘satellite’ voting locations and implement the drop box collection of ballots. In neighboring Democratic Delaware County, Pennsylvania one drop box was available for every 4,000 voters and one drop box was placed for every four-square-miles. On the other hand, Trump carried 59 of 67 Pennsylvania counties in 2016. CTCL contributed to 22 percent of those counties providing much smaller grants. There was one drop box for every 72,000 voters and every 1,159 square-miles in those counties.”

In other words, the density of ballot drop boxes in Democratic counties was 4,636 times greater measured by drop boxes per square mile of land area, thanks to interference by a private billionaire who contributed funds equal to or greater than government funding, with directions to disproportionately benefit Democratic voters.

Recall, in contrast, that at President Barack Obama’s 2010 State of the Union address, he publicly rebuked the Supreme Court justices, to the visible embarrassment of Chief Justice John Roberts, for the court’s then just-handed-down Citizens United decision. The ruling effectively freed labor unions and corporations to spend money on electioneering communications and to directly advocate for the election or defeat of candidates. That is, the Democrats were in an uproar when they thought “corporate” funding (which they presumed would exceed union funding), favored the GOP. Of course, we haven’t heard a peep from Democrats over Zuckerberg’s massive funding, because it helped the 2020 election for Biden.

I believe this unprecedented public scolding of the chief justice is what led to Roberts’s obvious subservience to the liberal agenda in later cases, including his unsound opinion validating the Obamacare “individual mandate” as a tax. The Amistad Suit, Unlike the Texas Suit, Would Appear Not to Suffer From Standing Issues

Nor would it appear that the Amistad suit presents potential standing issues. The plaintiffs include, besides swing state voters themselves and voter rights groups, swing state lawmakers whose Article II powers were stripped from them. Of course, not being a suit between states—as the Texas suit was—it must begin in district court and will go to the DC Circuit Court of Appeals before (potentially) making its way to the Supreme Court. Pence’s Oath of Office Obligates Him Not to Count the Votes of the Swing State Electors

Pence, who took an oath of office to uphold the Constitution, must consider whether he would be violating his solemn oath of office, by violating the Constitution, if he counts the Biden-pledged electors in the absence of post-election certification by the swing state legislatures.

That is, while Democrats will surely argue that, absent objections to the Biden electors carrying in both houses, Pence should honor their votes, Pence must make his own decision whether, under the present circumstances—i.e., irrefutable proof of widespread fraud and the governors’ blocking the lawmakers from exercising their exclusive constitutional power—he himself would be dragged into his own willful oath violation by counting the votes of the swing state electors absent the lawmakers post-election certification of those electoral votes.

Indeed, a legitimate question can be raised whether the Supreme Court’s power of judicial review, established under the landmark case Marbury v. Madison, extends so far—given our separation of powers principle—as to empower the court to inform Pence of how he must act given his oath of office and his role as president of the Senate, where he assesses the evidence and the lack of certification by the state lawmakers.

Nor does the vice president’s apparent self-interest disqualify him from making his own assessment. That is the position any incumbent vice president will find him or herself in, and history teaches that the vice president can count his “own” votes as Thomas Jefferson did in the election of 1800.

The vice president’s insistence on post-election certification by the lawmakers wouldn’t place an undue burden on the governors. All they have to do is call a special session and ask the lawmakers to vote on and approve the certified vote. If the governors refuse to do that simple thing, the only inference that can plausibly be drawn is that they know the fraud was so egregious, well-documented, and systemic that the approval of the lawmakers will never be gotten. Pence would be fully justified in drawing that negative inference should the governors fail to seek and obtain the lawmakers’ approval.

The governors shouldn’t be allowed to bypass the lawmakers’ exclusive, non-delegable, and plenary constitutional power to decide the manner of choosing electors through blatant gamesmanship. That’s why Pence shouldn’t hesitate to fulfill his oath of office by refusing to credit the swing state electors’ votes absent post-election certification by the lawmakers.

For precisely the same reason, Republican senators likewise shouldn’t hesitate to throw their full-throated support behind Pence fulfilling his solemn constitutional duty.

Mr. Vice President, there’s only one option available to you if you’re firm on upholding your sacred oath of office—not counting the votes of the electors from the six disputed swing states, unless and until, such votes are certified, post-election, by the lawmakers.

Stephen B. Meister is a lawyer and an opinion writer. Twitter @StephenMeister. Opinions expressed here are his own, not his firm’s.

Views expressed in this article are the opinions of the author and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elector; epochtimespaywall; nochanceinhell; statelegislature
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To: mbj
A few problems with Meister's analysis:

In late November, I wrote on these pages that “the Founding Fathers made a wise and prescient choice in setting up the Electoral College and vesting the state legislatures with exclusive authority to decide upon a state’s presidential electors.[”]

No, the Constitution grants state legislatures the power to "direct" the "manner" in which states appoint their electors. Importantly, it also grants Congress the power to set the date on which states appoint their electors. Meister gets it right elsewhere in the article, but his conclusion suggests that he doesn't grasp the distinction.

Later, I wrote that lawmakers in the six swing states still in dispute—Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona, and Nevada—should adopt “reclamation resolutions” reclaiming their exclusive constitutional power under the Electors’ Clause (Article II, Section 1) to decide the “manner” by which their states choose presidential electors.

They have decided the manner by which their states choose presidential electors. What he proposes isn't to "reclaim" a power they've never lost, but to change the manner of choosing electors after the date Congress set for choosing them. If state legislatures could do that, then the grant of power to Congress to set the date for choosing electors would be meaningless.

That is, federal and state statutes relating to the Electoral College have shifted the power to decide the “manner” of choosing a state’s presidential electors from the legislative branch of the state’s government to the executive branch (i.e., the governors) and even un-elected administrative officials (e.g., the secretary of state).

I agree that federal statutes can't strip state legislatures of their constitutional power to direct the manner of choosing electors, and, as explained below, they don't. But how can a state statute, which is necessarily passed by the state legislature, ever violate the Electors Clause? Isn't the statute simply an exercise of the legislature's power under the Electors Clause?

For example, federal statutes—namely, 3 U.S.C. Sections 5 and 6—establish a process where, in contrast to the exclusive power being vested in the state legislatures as mandated by Article II of the Constitution, presidential electors are designated by the governor, following a popular vote, without any post-election certification by the legislature of the state.

He's wrong about both statutes here. 3 U.S.C. 5 does not establish any process for choosing electors. It simply provides a date by which a dispute regarding the appointment of electors may be resolved in the manner directed by the state legislature. This seems a pretty straightforward application of Congress's power to set the date on which electors are chosen. 3 U.S.C. 6 does not give the governor the power to "designate" electors. It simply requires the governor to transmit the certificate of ascertainment of electors to Congress, the National Archives, and other bodies. The Constitution requires the electors to transmit their votes to the President of the Senate so that they can be opened and counted in the presence of Congress. Congress plainly has the power under the Necessary and Proper Clause to make provide by law for how the votes are transmitted and to provide by law for how the President of the Senate and Congress can ascertain the identity of the electors.

And where in the Constitution does he imagine there is a requirement for "post-election certification" of electors by the legislature?

As I previously noted, in McPherson v. Blacker, 146 U.S. 1, 29-30 (1892), the U.S. Supreme Court wrote, “There is no doubt of the right of the legislature to resume the power [of appointing presidential electors] at any time, for it can neither be taken away nor abdicated.”

The Supreme Court is actually quoting a Senate report there. That is not a holding by itself. Also, the Supreme Court also recognized in McPherson, "Congress is empowered to determine the time of choosing the electors and the day on which they are to give their votes, which is required to be the same day throughout the United States; but otherwise, the power and jurisdiction of the state is exclusive..."

Pence, who took an oath of office to uphold the Constitution, must consider whether he would be violating his solemn oath of office, by violating the Constitution, if he counts the Biden-pledged electors in the absence of post-election certification by the swing state legislatures.

He is really off the rails here. The Constitution apparently not only empowers, but obligates, President of the Senate to require legislatures of "swing states" to make a "post-election certification" of electors before he will carry out his explicit Constitutional duty to open their votes so they can be counted in the presence of Congress. Wherever he found this requirement, it certainly wasn't in the Constitution.

22 posted on 12/29/2020 2:49:27 PM PST by The Pack Knight
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To: mbj

Pence cannot accept or reject any slate of electors. As the presiding officer of a Joint Session, all he can do is entertain an objection from 1 senator and 1 congressman.

So he does that. What happens?

The two houses retire to debate the objection. In the event of a tie-—as best I can determine-—the officially submitted certified slate stands.

So the House will reject any but the certified slates. My guess, however, is that the senate will too. I do not see Trump getting 51 senate votes.

After AZ is rejected (it will be first), I suspect that there will be a motion to forego any further objections. This may be unconstitutional, but my guess is that it will pass.


23 posted on 12/29/2020 2:59:45 PM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix) )
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To: The Pack Knight

Thank you.


24 posted on 12/29/2020 3:01:50 PM PST by mbj
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To: The Pack Knight

“obligates, President of the Senate to require legislatures of “swing states” to make a “post-election certification” of electors before he will carry out his explicit Constitutional duty”

What if they don’t? What if one or more of those states where fraud is alleged/proven, say, bugger off, we’re not certifying. Then what does the VP do?


26 posted on 12/29/2020 3:19:58 PM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: blueplum
Meister, the author, takes the position that the VP should not count those votes. I disagree with him. My point is that the Constitution does not require a "post-election certification" of electors by the state legislatures. The state legislatures have already provided by law for certification of the electors by their respective governors or secretaries of state, who, in those states, certified the electors who voted for Biden. The VP will have no basis for refusing to count those electors' votes.
27 posted on 12/29/2020 3:25:39 PM PST by The Pack Knight
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To: VinL

“Pence’s allegiance is to the Establishment.”

is it? Pence is 61, and at the pinnacle of his career ladder. Why not retire, travel with life-time SS escorts and write some books while enjoying his family?

Pence is a nice guy but he lacks the X factor we waited decades for (and likely will again). And, he’s not and never will be a Deplorable. That makes him unelectable; the last brass ring won’t be his to take.


28 posted on 12/29/2020 3:30:03 PM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: mbj

I assume the suit will be dismissed for plaintiffs’ lack of standing, leaving the merits of this case non- adjudicated — just as no evidence of fraud has yet been adjudicated — leaving an opening for Pence to take his shot. Whether Pence would take it is another matter.


29 posted on 12/29/2020 3:31:26 PM PST by eastsider
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To: mbj

VERY GOOD ARTICLE!
(Though as far as I know there is no basis to claim the electoral role of the Legislature is “non-delegable.)
Without researching I feel confident that our Founders’ state Legislatures assigned the execution of their elections to the Executive Branch.
That is what Executives do!

And what our Founders thought Constitutional is what I think Constitutional.
And when the Constitution says “shall”, it means “shall”- so Pence can’t do anything but open “all” the votes.
Like the Constitution says- maybe he can do some other acts in the process that would help.

Anyway, well presented even though wrong.
And there was a point I thought was well-grounded in the Constitution- but don’t remember now LOL!


30 posted on 12/29/2020 3:50:03 PM PST by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: shaven_llama

What serious journalist have you seen that’s reporting Pence has this supposed power to do anything other than count the votes?

I haven’t seen any serious journalists say that myself - just click-bait websites.

Be more than dubious. He doesn’t have that type of power. (Can you imagine the Constitution “really” giving one person the power to toss or change EC votes? If so, that’d be one messed up Constitution. Imagine Al Gore or someone like that having the final say so on which EC votes to count. Constitution doesn’t say that, and it shouldn’t say that. What it does provide for is at least 1 Senator and 1 Congressional rep to submit a written objection, at which point both houses vote separately on what to do. They need to agree to change the result - which in this case obviously would never happen).


31 posted on 12/29/2020 3:53:14 PM PST by jstolzen
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To: LS

“This may be unconstitutional, but my guess is that it will pass.”
Yep, that’s our boys! LOL!

That may be something so egregious that Pence could put the kibosh on it though, without being overruled by the Houses.
... not even sure how joint sessions deal with motions- may be UC.


32 posted on 12/29/2020 4:01:19 PM PST by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: The Pack Knight; mbj
https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF11641

Congressional Research Service
Informing the legislative debate since 1914

Updated October 22, 2020

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December 23, 2020: Certificates Must Be Delivered to the Designated Officials

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Failure to Deliver Certificates by December 23

If the certificates from any state have not been delivered by December 23, 2020, the President of the Senate, or in their absence the Archivist, is required to request the secretary of state or equivalent officer in that state to send one of the copies they hold to the President of the Senate by registered mail (3 U.S.C. §12, 13). The Code also directs them to send a messenger to the judge of the U.S. district court in the state directing the judge to transmit the certificate they hold by “hand ... to the seat of government.”

January 6, 2021: Joint Session of Congress to Count Electoral Votes and Declare Election Results Meets

On January 6, or another date set by law, the Senate and House of Representatives assemble at 1:00 p.m. in a joint session at the Capitol, in the House chamber, to count the electoral votes and declare the results (3 U.S.C. §15). The Vice President presides as President of the Senate. The Vice President opens the certificates and presents them to four tellers, two from each chamber. The tellers read and make a list of the returns. When the votes have been ascertained and counted, the tellers transmit them to the Vice President. If one of the tickets has received a majority of 270 or more electoral votes, the Vice President announces the results, which “shall be deemed a sufficient declaration of the persons, if any, elected President and Vice President.”

Joint Session Challenges to Electoral Vote Returns

While the tellers announce the results, Members may object to the returns from any individual state as they are announced. Objections to individual state returns must be made in writing by at least one Member each of the Senate and House of Representatives. If an objection meets these requirements, the joint session recesses and the two houses separate and debate the question in their respective chambers for a maximum of two hours. The two houses then vote separately to accept or reject the objection. They then reassemble in joint session, and announce the results of their respective votes. An objection to a state's electoral vote must be approved by both houses in order for any contested votes to be excluded. For additional information, see CRS Report RL32717, Counting Electoral Votes: An Overview of Procedures at the Joint Session, Including Objections by Members of Congress, coordinated by Elizabeth Rybicki and L. Paige Whitaker. [13-page pdf]

January 20, 2021: Presidential Inauguration

On this date, the President and Vice President are to be inaugurated. The Twentieth Amendment set the date for inaugurations as January 20, beginning in 1937. Since 1981, the ceremony has, with one exception, been held on the West Front of the Capitol. The Vice President takes the oath first, followed at noon by the President.

Legislative Proposals to Extend the Post-Election Electoral College Timeline

Concern has been expressed by some that contested or delayed state popular vote results in the 2020 presidential election might prolong counting and ascertainment of results and encroach on the electoral college timeline. Two bills introduced in the 116th Congress would extend the time available for this process. S. 4517, introduced by Senator Marco Rubio, would be effective for the 2020-2021 election. It would change the Safe Harbor date to January 1, 2021, and the date on which electors vote to January 2. H.R. 8492, introduced by Representative David E. Price, would change the Safe Harbor date and also reschedule the electoral college meetings to the first day after January 1. It would also expedite delivery of certificates of the electoral vote and reschedule the joint session of Congress to count electoral votes to the second day after a revised deadline for election certificate delivery to the Vice President or the Archivist.

Thomas H. Neale, Specialist in American National Government

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Disclaimer

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33 posted on 12/29/2020 4:12:40 PM PST by woodpusher
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To: woodpusher

Interesting that Rubio and David Price introduced bills that would have pushed back the timeline, which might have been helpful to Trump.

Price is a very liberal Democrat who has represented Durham and Chapel Hill, NC for decades—he used to be firmly in the party’s left wing, but the party’s leftward movement now puts him in its mainstream. (He also happens to be the Congressman who nominated me to West Point many years ago.). I’m surprised that bill didn’t go anywhere, because, at the time, it was the Democrats who thought they would be litigating the results of the election.


34 posted on 12/29/2020 4:44:50 PM PST by The Pack Knight
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To: mbj

Pense


35 posted on 12/29/2020 4:59:56 PM PST by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA. (Owner of Stars and Bars Flags))
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Pence, as in https://www.whitehouse.gov/people/mike-pence/.

Respectfully,


36 posted on 12/29/2020 5:12:31 PM PST by mbj
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To: montanajoe

“The Constitution says the Vice President SHALL open the votes of the electors. SHALL means he must, there is no discretion, basically his role is ceremonial...”

A few states will be submitting two sets of electors’ votes. Guess he’ll open all of ‘em and then decide which ones to read/accept.


37 posted on 12/29/2020 5:15:27 PM PST by MayflowerMadam ("Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free" Galatians 5:1)
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To: montanajoe

Art II.1.3

The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted.

the president of the senate presiding? if so, he who has the gavel makes the rules.

note that there are elector judges for the House and Senate. For President, the President of the Senate (VP)(pence) seems to be the only presiding officer mentioned with the power to preside over the count.

if pence does not preside over the count then who does?


38 posted on 12/29/2020 5:41:29 PM PST by SteveH
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To: BlackFemaleArmyColonel

Mike Pence is never ever going to do this. Not in a million years. Its just not going to happen. He will never go against his establishment buddies.


39 posted on 12/29/2020 6:35:22 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: SteveH

The members would just vote to have someone else preside and open the certificates, they do that all the time.

The presiding officer basically just has a ceremonial role...whoever is the presiding officer must open the votes and he has no authority under the Constitution to do anything else...


40 posted on 12/29/2020 6:42:57 PM PST by montanajoe ( )
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