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Major Covid Vaccine Glitch Emerges: Most Europeans, Including Hospital Staff, Refuse To Take It (spike In Allergic Reactions)
Nation And State ^ | 12-27-2020

Posted on 12/27/2020 7:36:05 PM PST by blam

Major Covid Vaccine Glitch Emerges: Most Europeans, Including Hospital Staff, Refuse To Take It

All is not going according to plan in the biggest global rollout of what is arguably the most important vaccine in a century, and it is not just growing US mistrust in the covid injection effort that was rolled out in record time: an unexpected spike in allergic reactions to the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine (and now, Moderna too) may prove catastrophic to widespread acceptance unless scientists can figure out what is causing it after the FDA’s rushed approval, and is also why as we reported yesterday, scientists are scrambling to identify the potential culprit causing the allergic reactions.

Making matters worse, Europe rolled out a huge COVID-19 vaccination drive on Sunday to try to rein in the coronavirus pandemic but even more Europeans than American are skeptical about the speed at which the vaccines have been tested and approved and reluctant to have the shot.

While the European Union has secured contracts drugmakers including Pfizer, Moderna and AstraZeneca, for a total of more than two billion doses and has set a goal for all adults to be inoculated next year, this is looking increasingly like a pipe dream: according to recent surveys, the local population has expressed “high levels of hesitancy” towards inoculation in countries from France to Poland, with many used to vaccines taking decades to develop, not just months.

“I don’t think there’s a vaccine in history that has been tested so quickly,” Ireneusz Sikorski, 41, said as he stepped out of a church in central Warsaw with his two children.

“I am not saying vaccination shouldn’t be taking place. But I am not going to test an unverified vaccine on my children, or on myself.”

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(Excerpt) Read more at nationandstate.com ...


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KEYWORDS: allergic; antivaxxers; badreactions; covis10; europe; fakenews; fearporn; questions; tinfoilfreepers; toofast; vaccines
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To: JennysCool

My mother in law is not being mis-diagnosed with COVID , she has COVID. And she has been a big skeptic of COVID up to this point.
COVID is real and its dangerous .
Any doctor or nurse that I know, knows this is very serious. And one doctor is particular got very pissed off when it came up in a discussion that hospitals might be entering codes with COVID so they could make more money.

However for people under 40, its probably not that dangerous.
Yes the left has used COVID as a weapon to go after Trump, thats 100% true.

But when people on our side say its a hoax, that just makes us look bad.
Its very deadly for older people..

I don’t feel Trumps campaign however did a good job telling voters what he had done to fight COVID.
The fact we had more than one vaccine developed in 10 months is astounding.
The fact that our economy didn’t crater in March is also astounding.


81 posted on 12/28/2020 6:57:35 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Leave me alone, I have no incriminating evidence on the Clintons)
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To: Mom MD

Looks like it’s in ones DNA......I read a study that Irish seem to suffer from Bell’s Palsy more than average.

Cause[edit]

Facial nerve: the facial nerve’s nuclei are in the brainstem (represented in the diagram by “θ”). Orange: nerves coming from the left hemisphere of the brain, yellow: nerves coming from the right hemisphere. Note that the forehead muscles receive innervation from both hemispheres (yellow and orange)
The cause of Bell’s palsy is unknown.[1] Risk factors include diabetes, a recent upper respiratory tract infection, and pregnancy.[1][5]

Some viruses are thought to establish a persistent (or latent) infection without symptoms, e.g., the varicella zoster virus[15] and the Epstein–Barr virus, both of the herpes family. Reactivation of an existing (dormant) viral infection has been suggested as a cause of acute Bell’s palsy.[16] This new activation could be triggered by trauma, environmental factors, and metabolic or emotional disorders.[17]

Familial inheritance has been found in 4–14% of cases.[18] There may also be an association with migraines.[19]

In December 2020, the U.S. FDA recommended that recipients of the Pfizer and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines should be monitored for symptoms of Bell’s palsy after several cases were reported among clinical trial participants, though the data was not sufficient to determine whether a causality link exists.[20]


82 posted on 12/28/2020 6:59:41 AM PST by David Chase
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To: jmacusa

What does the Polio vaccine have to do with it?


83 posted on 12/28/2020 7:10:43 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (You are in far more danger from an authoritarian government than you are from a seasonal virus.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Quarantines are for sick/vulnerable people, not healthy people.

Quarantining healthy people is a crime against humanity.

Decorative cloth masks do nothing to protect against the virus. Their only purpose is to condition people to shut up and do as they are told.


84 posted on 12/28/2020 7:16:33 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (You are in far more danger from an authoritarian government than you are from a seasonal virus.)
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To: Mom MD

You are very confident about this vaccine. I am still on learning curve, and I have a family member who can opt in to take it for work...I have questions:

1. Do you trust those in leadership on this—from what I read, they were involved with the H1N1 outbreak which may not be a study in what to do.

2. Have you and family members had both shots yet?

3. Since this is an experimental vaccine using new therapy with no animal trials, why is it not rational to be concerned about side effects emerging in 6 months? A year? etc.


85 posted on 12/28/2020 8:02:31 AM PST by Freedom56v2 (Republicans will get the government they deserve if they do nothing :()
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To: Mom MD

One case was three days following the vaccine the other was two days following the vaccine these people came down with covid symptoms and a few days later tested positive for covid. I think it’s more than a little suspicious.


86 posted on 12/28/2020 8:21:33 AM PST by McCarthysGhost (q)
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To: Mom MD

How do you know you are free of latent vaccine effects? Dr Judi Mikovits Explains this in her research.


87 posted on 12/28/2020 8:40:53 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

It was a vaccine designed to eradicate a serious and often fatal illness. Did you get one? If you did, obviously you benefited from it, didn’t you? So why should someone be afraid of this vaccine?


88 posted on 12/28/2020 8:41:00 AM PST by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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To: McCarthysGhost

I don’t. If you understand incubation periods abs how vaccines work there is nothing suspicious


89 posted on 12/28/2020 8:56:34 AM PST by Mom MD
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To: Jan_Sobieski

No thanks


90 posted on 12/28/2020 8:56:54 AM PST by Mom MD
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To: Freedom56v2

No one has had the second vaccine yet - it has not been approved long enough. the 6 month time range is already covered by the clinical trials. There could be longer range effects although unlikely. I made the decision based on the risk of the disease I am very familiar with vs the slight chance there could be a longer term side effect of the vaccine. For me the benefit outweighs the risk. Everyone can make their own decision


91 posted on 12/28/2020 9:02:23 AM PST by Mom MD
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To: jmacusa

Seems the polio vaccine underwent more testing for longer period.

[These studies] were necessary to solve many problems before an oral polio vaccine could become a reality.” At first the vaccine virus was grown in cells taken from minced monkey kidneys. The vaccines were then safety-tested on rhesus monkeys, young mice, guinea pigs and rabbits, before being used on people #1

The 1954 field trials that followed, the largest in U.S. history at the time, were led by Salk’s former University of Michigan colleague, Dr. Thomas Francis, Jr. In the late 1950s, Polish-born physician and virologist Albert Sabin ...

Take-away points:
The 1954 polio vaccine field trials used a singular statistical design

Over 600 000 schoolchildren were injected with vaccine or placebo and over a million others participated as “observed” controls

This dual protocol illustrates both the power and the limitations of randomised clinical trials to legitimate therapeutic claims #2

On this day (April 26) in history – 1954 – Polio vaccine trials begin
On this day in 1954, the Salk polio vaccine field trials, involving 1.8 million children, begin at the Franklin Sherman Elementary School in McLean, Virginia. Children in the United States, Canada and Finland participated in the trials, which used for the first time the now-standard double-blind method, whereby neither the patient nor attending doctor knew

On April 12, 1955, researchers announced the vaccine was safe and effective and it quickly became a standard part of childhood immunizations in America. In the ensuing decades, polio vaccines would all but wipe out the highly contagious disease in the Western Hemisphere. #3

#1 https://www.understandinganimalresearch.org.uk/news/video-of-the-week/sixty-years-of-the-polio-miracle-vaccine/

#2 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1114166/

#3 https://www.heraldchronicle.com/entertainment/local/on-this-day-april-26-in-history-1954-polio-vaccine-trials-begin/article_6fed1061-1294-5bff-93c9-3535ac432b0e.html


92 posted on 12/28/2020 9:26:19 AM PST by Freedom56v2 (Republicans will get the government they deserve if they do nothing :()
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To: Mom MD

How has the 6-month range been covered by clinical trials? From what I read, the trials were conducted from First of August until early November?


93 posted on 12/28/2020 9:27:52 AM PST by Freedom56v2 (Republicans will get the government they deserve if they do nothing :()
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To: guthunde47
That’s what Dr Madej said that if you take the vaccine, you are changed, and have become property subject to the whims of the patent holder. Enjoy being owned by Bill Gates.

I think you forgot the sarcasm tag.

What I don't get is that for the people that don't want or are not getting the vaccine, some seem genuinely MAD that some people are getting they vaccine. Why? They hopefully made a data informed decision - but it is their decision to get the vaccine.

94 posted on 12/28/2020 9:35:09 AM PST by Fury (.)
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To: Mom MD

Small Hospital and she is being pressured by her doctors. In her case one doctor can have her fired, and he has told all the Nurses as much. He has that kind of control, he is the reason she is retiring in June.

Within her group only two nurses out of about 15 accepted the vaccine. Hence the pressure. They have been working with COVID patients daily and not one nurse has gotten sick or if they caught COVID they were asymptomatic. The guidance sent out to all the nurses clearly states that there was no study done on the affect of the vaccine with regards to people who have autoimmune diseases. While they do not BELIEVE it will harm them they cannot say with any certainty because no study was ever conducted. She asked for exemption as she has numerous health issues including a serious autoimmune disease, so far they have told her no. She wants to wait for a more traditional vaccine or until they can say with some level of certainty that it will not make her current situation worse. She has a autoimmune disease, works with COVID patients regularly and has not gotten sick, but the vaccine could be worse then COVID for her.

I feel the hospital is acting this way for two reasons. One to keep staff safe but more then that the Hospital was embarrassed that so many of their healthcare professionals declined the vaccine. Initially a number of doctors also refused, they were pressured into taking the vaccine before the nurses.

Why would anyone want a vaccine that MAY do more damage to them personally then the virus?


95 posted on 12/28/2020 9:44:36 AM PST by OldGoatCPO (No Caitiff Choir of Angels will sing for me.)
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To: Mom MD

Well there is the crux of the problem, we cannot make our own decisions.

Congress has waived liability for employers and the drug dealers. The EEOC has determined you cannot file a complaint through them if you are terminated for refusing the vaccine. Already they are talking about economic and travel restrictions on anyone not taking the vaccine.

So explain to me again how “everyone can make their own decision.”


96 posted on 12/28/2020 9:53:11 AM PST by OldGoatCPO (No Caitiff Choir of Angels will sing for me.)
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To: OldGoatCPO

i have not seen anyone forced to take the vaccine. if you want it take it if you don’t then don’t


97 posted on 12/28/2020 10:04:39 AM PST by Mom MD
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To: OldGoatCPO

i’m sorry she works with a jerk on a power trip. The larger organizations are not requiring the vaccine


98 posted on 12/28/2020 10:07:17 AM PST by Mom MD
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To: Freedom56v2

human trials started at least as far back as march


99 posted on 12/28/2020 10:08:24 AM PST by Mom MD
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To: Freedom56v2
I believe it became available in February of 1954. I remember as a kid going with my mother to one of our local public schools to get the shot. What I remember most is a bunch of screaming kids and harried mothers. I'm 64 so I think my mother had taken me around 1961 or 1962, I'm not quite sure but I know I was a young kid. But the polio vaccine was developed from technology from over sixty years ago. We live in a different world today. Heck here we are talking over miles on an electronic communication device that was considered science fiction in 1954.
100 posted on 12/28/2020 10:15:38 AM PST by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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