Posted on 12/27/2020 7:36:05 PM PST by blam
My mother in law is not being mis-diagnosed with COVID , she has COVID. And she has been a big skeptic of COVID up to this point.
COVID is real and its dangerous .
Any doctor or nurse that I know, knows this is very serious. And one doctor is particular got very pissed off when it came up in a discussion that hospitals might be entering codes with COVID so they could make more money.
However for people under 40, its probably not that dangerous.
Yes the left has used COVID as a weapon to go after Trump, thats 100% true.
But when people on our side say its a hoax, that just makes us look bad.
Its very deadly for older people..
I don’t feel Trumps campaign however did a good job telling voters what he had done to fight COVID.
The fact we had more than one vaccine developed in 10 months is astounding.
The fact that our economy didn’t crater in March is also astounding.
Looks like it’s in ones DNA......I read a study that Irish seem to suffer from Bell’s Palsy more than average.
Cause[edit]
Facial nerve: the facial nerve’s nuclei are in the brainstem (represented in the diagram by “θ”). Orange: nerves coming from the left hemisphere of the brain, yellow: nerves coming from the right hemisphere. Note that the forehead muscles receive innervation from both hemispheres (yellow and orange)
The cause of Bell’s palsy is unknown.[1] Risk factors include diabetes, a recent upper respiratory tract infection, and pregnancy.[1][5]
Some viruses are thought to establish a persistent (or latent) infection without symptoms, e.g., the varicella zoster virus[15] and the Epstein–Barr virus, both of the herpes family. Reactivation of an existing (dormant) viral infection has been suggested as a cause of acute Bell’s palsy.[16] This new activation could be triggered by trauma, environmental factors, and metabolic or emotional disorders.[17]
Familial inheritance has been found in 4–14% of cases.[18] There may also be an association with migraines.[19]
In December 2020, the U.S. FDA recommended that recipients of the Pfizer and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines should be monitored for symptoms of Bell’s palsy after several cases were reported among clinical trial participants, though the data was not sufficient to determine whether a causality link exists.[20]
What does the Polio vaccine have to do with it?
Quarantines are for sick/vulnerable people, not healthy people.
Quarantining healthy people is a crime against humanity.
Decorative cloth masks do nothing to protect against the virus. Their only purpose is to condition people to shut up and do as they are told.
You are very confident about this vaccine. I am still on learning curve, and I have a family member who can opt in to take it for work...I have questions:
1. Do you trust those in leadership on this—from what I read, they were involved with the H1N1 outbreak which may not be a study in what to do.
2. Have you and family members had both shots yet?
3. Since this is an experimental vaccine using new therapy with no animal trials, why is it not rational to be concerned about side effects emerging in 6 months? A year? etc.
One case was three days following the vaccine the other was two days following the vaccine these people came down with covid symptoms and a few days later tested positive for covid. I think it’s more than a little suspicious.
How do you know you are free of latent vaccine effects? Dr Judi Mikovits Explains this in her research.
It was a vaccine designed to eradicate a serious and often fatal illness. Did you get one? If you did, obviously you benefited from it, didn’t you? So why should someone be afraid of this vaccine?
I don’t. If you understand incubation periods abs how vaccines work there is nothing suspicious
No thanks
No one has had the second vaccine yet - it has not been approved long enough. the 6 month time range is already covered by the clinical trials. There could be longer range effects although unlikely. I made the decision based on the risk of the disease I am very familiar with vs the slight chance there could be a longer term side effect of the vaccine. For me the benefit outweighs the risk. Everyone can make their own decision
Seems the polio vaccine underwent more testing for longer period.
[These studies] were necessary to solve many problems before an oral polio vaccine could become a reality.” At first the vaccine virus was grown in cells taken from minced monkey kidneys. The vaccines were then safety-tested on rhesus monkeys, young mice, guinea pigs and rabbits, before being used on people #1
The 1954 field trials that followed, the largest in U.S. history at the time, were led by Salk’s former University of Michigan colleague, Dr. Thomas Francis, Jr. In the late 1950s, Polish-born physician and virologist Albert Sabin ...
Take-away points:
The 1954 polio vaccine field trials used a singular statistical design
Over 600 000 schoolchildren were injected with vaccine or placebo and over a million others participated as “observed” controls
This dual protocol illustrates both the power and the limitations of randomised clinical trials to legitimate therapeutic claims #2
On this day (April 26) in history – 1954 – Polio vaccine trials begin
On this day in 1954, the Salk polio vaccine field trials, involving 1.8 million children, begin at the Franklin Sherman Elementary School in McLean, Virginia. Children in the United States, Canada and Finland participated in the trials, which used for the first time the now-standard double-blind method, whereby neither the patient nor attending doctor knew
On April 12, 1955, researchers announced the vaccine was safe and effective and it quickly became a standard part of childhood immunizations in America. In the ensuing decades, polio vaccines would all but wipe out the highly contagious disease in the Western Hemisphere. #3
#2 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1114166/
How has the 6-month range been covered by clinical trials? From what I read, the trials were conducted from First of August until early November?
I think you forgot the sarcasm tag.
What I don't get is that for the people that don't want or are not getting the vaccine, some seem genuinely MAD that some people are getting they vaccine. Why? They hopefully made a data informed decision - but it is their decision to get the vaccine.
Small Hospital and she is being pressured by her doctors. In her case one doctor can have her fired, and he has told all the Nurses as much. He has that kind of control, he is the reason she is retiring in June.
Within her group only two nurses out of about 15 accepted the vaccine. Hence the pressure. They have been working with COVID patients daily and not one nurse has gotten sick or if they caught COVID they were asymptomatic. The guidance sent out to all the nurses clearly states that there was no study done on the affect of the vaccine with regards to people who have autoimmune diseases. While they do not BELIEVE it will harm them they cannot say with any certainty because no study was ever conducted. She asked for exemption as she has numerous health issues including a serious autoimmune disease, so far they have told her no. She wants to wait for a more traditional vaccine or until they can say with some level of certainty that it will not make her current situation worse. She has a autoimmune disease, works with COVID patients regularly and has not gotten sick, but the vaccine could be worse then COVID for her.
I feel the hospital is acting this way for two reasons. One to keep staff safe but more then that the Hospital was embarrassed that so many of their healthcare professionals declined the vaccine. Initially a number of doctors also refused, they were pressured into taking the vaccine before the nurses.
Why would anyone want a vaccine that MAY do more damage to them personally then the virus?
Well there is the crux of the problem, we cannot make our own decisions.
Congress has waived liability for employers and the drug dealers. The EEOC has determined you cannot file a complaint through them if you are terminated for refusing the vaccine. Already they are talking about economic and travel restrictions on anyone not taking the vaccine.
So explain to me again how “everyone can make their own decision.”
i have not seen anyone forced to take the vaccine. if you want it take it if you don’t then don’t
i’m sorry she works with a jerk on a power trip. The larger organizations are not requiring the vaccine
human trials started at least as far back as march
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