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1 posted on 12/19/2020 8:35:44 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
First you have to reshape their "lower" education.

Foundations in the sand soon crumble.

2 posted on 12/19/2020 8:46:40 AM PST by G Larry (Authority is vested in those to whom it applies.)
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To: Kaslin

Defund.

Defund the entire thing.

There is no reason university chancellors should be paid a quarter of million dollars a year. Or more.

It’s insane. And obscene.


3 posted on 12/19/2020 8:47:22 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: fatima; Fresh Wind; st.eqed; xsmommy; House Atreides; Nowhere Man; PaulZe; brityank; Physicist; ...

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4 posted on 12/19/2020 8:48:34 AM PST by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: Kaslin

They just don’t get it. Yes, the high cost is unacceptable. But the value of what is received for the cost is not addressed. Apparently, it’s very expensive to get indoctrinated.

Burn them to the ground.


5 posted on 12/19/2020 8:58:35 AM PST by brownsfan (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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To: Kaslin

Why is it daunting??

Just eliminate the entire central-state public school ‘indoctrination’ complex and leave it to at-home or parental choice.


6 posted on 12/19/2020 9:01:08 AM PST by Bellagio
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To: Kaslin
The Daunting Task of Reshaping Pennsylvania’s System of Higher Education

Not just Pa. but all states both higher and lower. The 1619 project is gaining steam. It is treason personified. More than 4000 schools already feature it.

8 posted on 12/19/2020 9:17:39 AM PST by Don Corleone (The truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth)
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To: Kaslin

........Liberalism aka socialism which has infected Higher Education nationwide will and should kill off “Higher Education” as it is known today. No more government loans!


9 posted on 12/19/2020 9:25:08 AM PST by Cen-Tejas
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How much of the drop in enrollment is due to students from New York and New Jersey choosing to go elsewhere?

A lot of New York and New Jersey high school graduates, especially New Jerseyians, headed to Pennsylvania for a better education than they'd get in New Jersey.

New York and New Jersey residents have been fleeing those states long before the Wuhanic Plague and it has to impact Pennsylvania college enrollments.

10 posted on 12/19/2020 9:35:07 AM PST by T.B. Yoits
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Used to be that the PA state colleges fit a spot between community colleges and higher cost universities. Costs were low and education was adequate for graduates to succeed in life after graduation. Didn’t have a lot of prestigious and we’ll placed alumni that could get you ahead of the line in business or politics, but if you’re going to work as a public school teacher, that’s not a draw anyway.

Then they started chasing the Joneses, focusing on endowments, rock climbing walls in the student union, progressive political sensibilities and the accountrements that staff and faculty at “nicer” colleges got.

If the towns want to keep their colleges, spin them off into private schools and see what happens. If the state system wants to get serious, which they only want to do to the extent that they’re allowed to keep going on without any more changes, they’d standardize curricula across all of the colleges and streamline all of the coursework. There’s no reason for 14 aligned colleges to have more than one intro to biology course or book. There’s no reason for an educational system with that amount of buying power to offer that course book for more than the cost of printing. The opportunities for slashing costs and eliminating redundancies are everywhere... Yet they’re not even attempted.


11 posted on 12/19/2020 10:47:47 AM PST by jz638
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Get rid of the faculty union that forces the state universities to pay salaries and benefits far exceeding other universities.

I was a professor at one of their universities for quite a few years and got paid far too much. Often joked that after that I never wanted a real job.

I was full time. That meant 10 hrs per week teaching, 28 weeks per year. My office hours were between classes. Most years I only taught classes Tues. and Thurs. Month off at Christmas, week at Thanksgiving and Easter. Off from first week in May through the end of August.

Real rough job... LOL


12 posted on 12/19/2020 11:46:25 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: Kaslin

And zero pressure to do research or publish.


13 posted on 12/19/2020 11:47:24 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: Kaslin

I was on several search & screen committees to hire new faculty. The union pay scale, while super high for social arts faculty was low in the business, computer and science areas.

End result, the only faculty you could hire with the credentials required for accreditation were the losers rejected for tenure at many other universities.


14 posted on 12/19/2020 11:52:11 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: Kaslin

At this point, you have the best case made for homeschooling when public schooling is likely to make your kid fall behind for their age.


16 posted on 12/19/2020 2:12:24 PM PST by Morpheus2009 (If you want me to be afraid, then be consistent in your logic, standards, and your lies!)
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To: Kaslin

why? it needs to be purged and rebuilt form the ground up with American values and pride


18 posted on 12/19/2020 2:44:57 PM PST by ronnie raygun ( Massive mistakes are made by arrogant fools; massive evils are committed by evil people.")
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