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And in the NY Post...

https://nypost.com/2020/12/16/how-mlbs-negro-leagues-decision-affects-record-book/

1 posted on 12/17/2020 6:40:12 PM PST by foreverfree
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2 posted on 12/17/2020 6:40:55 PM PST by foreverfree
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They were not major league teams, though

They should not be regaded as such.

Nothing wrong with accurate history.


3 posted on 12/17/2020 6:42:49 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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The timing of this doesn’t come off as pandering at all.


4 posted on 12/17/2020 6:44:20 PM PST by Trump20162020
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I wonder if anyone looked into Negro League owners being against integration. It seems to me that they would have had a vested interest in not letting their stars go to MLB. That’d kill their narrative though.

I have a hard time believing the decision to not allow blacks into MLB was solely up to the people running the league back then. I know quite a few were, but there were a LOT of people upset that blacks were not allowed to play for MLB teams ... my grandfather was one of them :-) ... when the Pittsburgh Pirates all but stunk after the 1920s, he followed the Homestead Grays and had said that many Negro League players should have been on major league teams :-).


6 posted on 12/17/2020 6:46:26 PM PST by edh
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Great news. The Cleveland Indians can change their name to the Cleveland Negros to honor the group. I’m sure that will be well received. /s


8 posted on 12/17/2020 6:47:22 PM PST by Abbeville Conservative (Preventing the theft of the 2020 Presidential Election is that hill we've talked about)
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What about the Pacific League and the Women’s Baseball League?


9 posted on 12/17/2020 6:50:22 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Who built the cages, Joe?)
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Until Robinson, and Branch Rickey, the players in the Negro League, no matter how good they were, did not have the option to play in the American or National League.


11 posted on 12/17/2020 6:53:07 PM PST by Meatspace
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Ah, we’re now to the point where ‘history’ is being officially rewritten. How Orwellian of them. This is not to say that the best stars of the Negro League weren’t major league quality and would have performed well in the majors but for the racism of the time, but they were competing in a minor league against mostly minor league players.


12 posted on 12/17/2020 6:57:13 PM PST by hanamizu
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Baseball seems hellbent on alienating its fan base. Baseball is a game of records - now they’re meaningless?


14 posted on 12/17/2020 7:10:19 PM PST by NotSoFreeStater (If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice)
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There was a field semi close to where I live that I saw some of the best baseball games ever. Black Sox Field was the site.
15 posted on 12/17/2020 7:10:50 PM PST by jy8z (When push comes disguised as nudge, I do not budge.)
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Yeah! We gots da home run record and s—t dawg!


16 posted on 12/17/2020 7:11:10 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Trust the plan of the 17th letter of the English alphabet!)
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It makes sense to me. If you’re going to include other (defunct) pro leagues for stat purposes, then the Negro Leagues should be included as well.
MJ


18 posted on 12/17/2020 7:15:33 PM PST by mjustice (Apparently common sense isn't so common.)
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My favorite team name:

The Atlanta Black Crackers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_Black_Crackers


19 posted on 12/17/2020 7:20:27 PM PST by PAR35
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I am a long time baseball fan, 64 years, and I am totally on board with this.

Good job MLB for doing this. The Hall of Fame in Cooperstown has already welcomed the stars of the Black League back in that era.


20 posted on 12/17/2020 7:24:20 PM PST by Sam Clements
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Many radio game announcers would refer to Negro League stats when covering a game. White Sox as among the first to also brake the ban.


21 posted on 12/17/2020 7:24:50 PM PST by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin posting here for the record hoping somebody might read and pass around)
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This is really only a problem because of Interleague Play, which is why I stopped watching baseball for 20+ years.

Before Interleague Play, all the records outside of the World Series were contained within the leagues themselves. Yes, Ruth’s HR records and Gehrig’s Iron Man record are recognized as all MLB, but the vast majority of stats: batting crowns, ERA leader, etc. are thought of in terms of the player’s league, as the leagues never played each other outside of the World Series.

Since the Negro Leagues were not included in the World Series, those records are untouched. The rest of the records can be regarded as within their leagues, where they are certainly valid.

The kind of all MLB records likely to go to a Negro Leaguer (e.g. most strikeouts in a game) are likely to be followed only by hardcore baseball stat fans who will know the context.


23 posted on 12/17/2020 7:26:35 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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Should have done this years ago.

At this point, however, I’m not that interested anymore in professional sports for a variety of reasons.

I’ll watch a few minutes here or there, but meh.


25 posted on 12/17/2020 7:29:03 PM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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Baseball... I seem to recall that stupid sport... before the world went crazy even I used to watch that nonsense...


27 posted on 12/17/2020 7:31:23 PM PST by Professional ( )
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But what of the “Old Negro Space Program” ?


28 posted on 12/17/2020 7:35:22 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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But what of the “Old Negro Space Program” ?


29 posted on 12/17/2020 7:35:22 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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