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It’s pretty retarded to compare global deaths between the Spanish Flu and CCP-19. In the first place, as the article points out, there were no antibiotics, and modern medicine, as we know it today, was a century less mature in the US and way, way less advanced in most of the rest of the world - where the bulk of the deaths occurred. So we’re comparing medical technology that varied from 100 years less advanced to centuries or even millennia less advanced.

The only legitimate comparison is between the US 100 years ago and the US now - basically, the only place that had modern medicine (of the respective eras) and decent statistics gathering.

In 1918 there were some 675,000 deaths from Spanish Flu over the 26 month duration of the pandemic in the US. That comes out to be 854 deaths per day, average. Keep in mind that there was a huge spike in October 1918 where a very large hunk of the deaths occurred, so the average deaths per day most of the time was much lower than that 854 count. And that number includes all the “normal” flu deaths as they could not distinguish between flu strains at that time. Normal flu deaths for the first six months of the Spanish Flu pandemic accounted for some 90% of the total based on prior year statistics.

In 2020, since the first US death, we’ve had over 300,000 deaths in the US. We are regularly breaking the 3,000 mark and the daily average is well over 1,000. And contrary to the claims that every death is attributed to CCP-19, we can tell the difference, now, and most non-CCP-19 deaths are not being misattributed. So, given that we have 100 years of medical advances, antibiotics, and the ability to distinguish between various ILIs, even with a population that is triple what we had in 1918 we are still seeing a proportionately higher death rate at the moment. Anything more than 2560 deaths in a day is “worse” than the Spanish Flu, and anything less than that number is “better” than the Spanish Flu. With 100 years better medicine.

And the claim that it’s really the pneumonia that killed people that died from Spanish Flu is disingenuous because that’s what kills you from CCP-19 and most other communicable diseases - opportunistic infections. It’s ridiculous to claim that Spanish Flu was so bad because you’d get pneumonia and die and at the same time claim that CCP-19 is not so bad because you would die from some comorbidity rather than the CCP-19 virus by itself. (How can people not see the hypocrisy?)

CCP-19 is real. Denying it will kill people that don’t have to die. Making ludicrous claims about conspiracies and abusing statistics to support those claims is just manifest denial and a crippling level of normalcy bias.

One thing we can say is this year has been anything but normal. Get used to it. It’s likely to get worse before it gets better. Especially with the same folks that insist it’s a hoax so they refuse to mask and who think they are getting a nanochip implanted with the vaccination - “proud spreaders” one and all.

The it’s going to get worse because people refuse to wear a mask is a canard. Almost everyone has been wearing a mask for months

......”It’s likely to get worse before it gets better. Especially with the same folks that insist it’s a hoax so they refuse to mask”......

Well you really can’t blame people for not wanting to wear a mask. Doing so hasn’t changed the fact Governors are closing things down again and the virus spreads regardless, and apparently worse than the first round. And it’s all debatable what is what regarding this virus and masks.

... that’s what kills you from CCP-19 ... - opportunistic infections.

That is utterly false. It is the cytokine storm that causes filling of the lungs with fluid that kills most of those who die directly from Covid-19. An immune system over response. They are dying before secondary infections even have a chance to get going.

Keep in mind that there was a huge spike in October 1918 where a very large hunk of the deaths occurred, so the average deaths per day most of the time was much lower than that 854 count.

You have just demonstrated that your understanding of statistics is nil.

And that number includes all the “normal” flu deaths as they could not distinguish between flu strains at that time. Normal flu deaths for the first six months of the Spanish Flu pandemic accounted for some 90% of the total based on prior year statistics.

Now explain why we're not having any reported influenza cases this year which means that the usual 34k to 63k deaths by influenza per year will not be going in the records for the '20-'21 flu season.

There’s only one thing anyone needs to know about this idiotic fiasco:

Since this COVID-19 virus first showed up in the news back in early 2020; and through endless government-mandated shutdowns of schools, businesses, etc., the New York City subway system — arguably the worst public place on the planet for exposure to viral and bacterial pathogens — HAS NEVER STOPPED RUNNING.

Just think about that the next time some government asshole gets on TV and tells you to spend Christmas away from your family and wear a mask even when you are outdoors alone without anyone closer than a hundred yards away from you.

decent statistics gathering...hmmm. ok. did covid stimulus pay money to cover anything covid related in the depts reporting those statistics? Conflict of interest IMO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bX-wFVBP94&feature=emb_logo

n 1918 there were some 675,000 deaths from Spanish Flu over the 26 month duration of the pandemic in the US. That comes out to be 854 deaths per day, average. Keep in mind that there was a huge spike in October 1918 where a very large hunk of the deaths occurred, so the average deaths per day most of the time was much lower than that 854 count. And that number includes all the “normal” flu deaths as they could not distinguish between flu strains at that time. Normal flu deaths for the first six months of the Spanish Flu pandemic accounted for some 90% of the total based on prior year statistics. In 2020, since the first US death, we’ve had over 300,000 deaths in the US. We are regularly breaking the 3,000 mark and the daily average is well over 1,000.

You cannot use the highest surge in death rates for Covid or what it presently is and and make that the equivalent to the average of 854 deaths per day for the 1918 flu over the 26 month duration of the pandemic in the US. To do so indicates you are not being objective. Since presently ""the daily death toll from seasonal flu, using preliminary maximum estimates from the 2019-2020 influenza season, stood at an average of almost 332 people" (https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109281/covid-19-daily-deaths-compared-to-all-causes/) then even this year's flu deaths - which are uncharacteristically low - is more then the figure you are using for the 1918 flu.

So, given that we have 100 years of medical advances, antibiotics, and the ability to distinguish between various ILIs, even with a population that is triple what we had in 1918 we are still seeing a proportionately higher death rate at the moment. Anything more than 2560 deaths in a day is “worse” than the Spanish Flu, and anything less than that number is “better” than the Spanish Flu. With 100 years better medicine.

Again, "at the moment" is not how you compare the rate. You need to wait until we reach 26 months or until the Covid pandemic is over. And what you are also not including in what seems to be an intent to magnify Covid, is that in contrast to the 1918 flu which mainly killed the young and even fit persons (though many were weakend by war), only about one percent of Covid-assigned deaths are young people while the vast majority of these deaths are 65 years-old or more, most with 2 or more comorbidities. Meaning the cause of deaths is much clearer for the former, and which was often sudden. In addition, 42% of Americans are overweight/obese, and which, along with diabetes which usually flows from this, and hypertension, is a leading comorbidity.

Meaning in contrast to 1918, relatively speaking hardly anyone dies of Covid who are in good health, which at least outweighs the advancements in treatment now, though in 1918 they rightly encouraged ventilation of rooms and even placed patients outside, and which they reported resulted in better recoveries.

And contrary to the claims that every death is attributed to CCP-19, we can tell the difference, now, and most non-CCP-19 deaths are not being misattributed.

Prove that reported Covid deaths are only those that are confirmed to have Covid - and died from it. For the CCD allows for "presumed" deaths by Covid, and contrary to the claims that deny it, hospitals do receive more money for such. Though not the norm, according to a Colorado coroner the State included a murder-suicide in COVID deaths.

Much data here

Thus since the 1918 flu mainly killed people who ordinarily would not have died, then deaths attributed to the 1918 flu are far more likely to be accurate versus those assigned to Covid, and in which the real cause is usually a preventable heath condition, where it is obesity, diabetes, hypertension, CPD, AIDS.etc.