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Trump's End Game
American Thinker.com ^ | December 16, 2020 | Mark Landsbaum

Posted on 12/16/2020 5:14:04 AM PST by Kaslin

The good news is it’s still entirely possible for Donald Trump to be reelected. The bad news is that it is likely to come down to the RINOs.

Joe Biden, in his cough-punctuated speech Monday night, declared victory and enumerated all the ways that he defeated Donald Trump – seven million more votes, a “landslide” in Electoral College votes coupled with Trump’s zero batting average in every courtroom to hear his case so far.

But there is now also a hugely encouraging fact: on Monday Trump won his most significant battle yet when seven swing states sent pro-Trump electors to Washington. Now, someone must decide whether to accept the Biden slate of electors for those states, which also were sent on Monday, or the Trump slates.

Millions of Americans are persuaded there was widespread systemic fraud and corruption in the 2020 vote. But, a number of courts have seen heaps of evidence, affidavits etc. Yet, they've taken zero action favorable to Trump.

That’s because the electoral system, as devised, makes it impossible to effectively challenge voting fraud. No court can process sufficiently and fairly all the evidence, claims and counterclaims, testimony, etc. in the time between election day and the day electors are chosen. It takes about half the available time just to research and pull together cases and file them. Cases this complicated take months, even years to be resolved in courts.

No court was about to overturn a national election based on what are essentially only allegations in a lawsuit without testing their veracity in a full-blown trial with the accused allowed to present their case, and both sides engaging in cross examination, discovery and other requisite legal niceties to determine whether the allegations hold water.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2leavewithdignity; china; iran; joebiden; presidenttrump; russia
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1 posted on 12/16/2020 5:14:04 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Why would the Republican party challenge the Electoral College result when it produced the desired result of removing Donald J Trump from office?


2 posted on 12/16/2020 5:18:57 AM PST by buckalfa
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To: Kaslin

the Blackrobe seditionists and traitors and the
despicable RINOs and Utah backstabbers have exposed
themselves to American Patriots WHOM THEY HATE.


3 posted on 12/16/2020 5:19:23 AM PST by Diogenesis ("when a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced" )
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To: Kaslin

A political solution is fantasy. Insurrection Act is the only solution.


4 posted on 12/16/2020 5:20:52 AM PST by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues th the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: Kaslin

I’m not going to hold my breath, but if we get through and the Good Guys come out on top, we need to force election reform on all the states. Money is a great incentive. Per the Constitution, elections are a state matter and the feds do not really have a say. But if the feds just start withholding any and all money, perhaps the states will get the urge to do what they’re told.

Everyone has their list of feature — purple ink, voter ID, etc. I think one feature should be an auditable system that can complete a vote count by midnight on election day. No counting after that point for any reason.


5 posted on 12/16/2020 5:22:36 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: DarthVader
Insurrection Act is the only solution.

To what end? If it is to order are elections or delay when the President's term starts per the 20th Amendment, that won't occur.

6 posted on 12/16/2020 5:24:50 AM PST by Fury (.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

You’re only looking at the symptoms. The real problem is that a major political party is specifically trying to hold Saddam-style elections. As long as one of the major forces that controls our election system is trying to enable election fakery, we’re going to have a lot of fake elections.


7 posted on 12/16/2020 5:30:27 AM PST by Keb
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To: buckalfa

At the end of the day, each party member has to answer to his constituents. I don’t hold out much hope for the spineless RINO’s supporting Trump, but it may come down to them, and their futures may depend on their individual votes.

Remember, everybody may hate Nancy around the country, but she’s still in office because her constituents like her. This goes for all of ‘em.

And this time they also know that the stakes are high enough that it’s not just their political career that is at stake. It may be their very lives. This one is serious. There are a lot of very, VERY disgruntled Americans out there with guns that are not constrained by the love of Jesus.


8 posted on 12/16/2020 5:30:54 AM PST by cuban leaf (We killed our economy and damaged our culture. In 2021 we will pine for the salad days of 2020.)
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To: DarthVader
Insurrection Act is the only solution

.Shakespeare had this, and so many other things, covered:

Glendower: "I can call spirits from the vasty deep"

Hotspur: "Why, so can I, or so can any man; But will they come when you do call them?"

It is apparent that the leadership of the US military is either committed to neutrality or to the installation of Biden.

There are, as I know you will say, soldiers and marines who would support Trump. But there are also many who either would not, or who would obey their chain of command as they have been taught to do.

Without a unified chain of command, you can have a bloody mess - but you can't have a second term via the Insurrection Act.

9 posted on 12/16/2020 5:32:28 AM PST by Jim Noble (Lo there do I see the line of my people, back to the beginning)
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To: Diogenesis

Yep.


10 posted on 12/16/2020 5:32:37 AM PST by sauropod (Balls to humblegunner.)
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To: Kaslin

McConnell has already said (yesterday, during a call with all R Senators) that they will vote down any attempt to recognize the alternate electors. He reportedly “pleaded with” his caucus not to do that because it would put them in the position of having to publicly act against Trump (and, more likely what he really cares about) the 75M of us who voted for him.

Barring some huge new revelation, the “Alternate Electors” plan is NOT happening, folks. And even with a huge new revelation, does anyone here think we can REALLY get 50 R Senate votes for the alternates? We’d be lucky to get FIVE, let alone 50.


11 posted on 12/16/2020 5:32:40 AM PST by jstolzen
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To: Fury

Like what Lincoln did in 1860 and clean house. There is no other solution. The world as we know it will be gone in less than 2 years if not.


12 posted on 12/16/2020 5:32:59 AM PST by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues th the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: DarthVader

I think that Trump, out of office, can still work to eject the RINOs and the corrupt from the Republican Party.


13 posted on 12/16/2020 5:37:20 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: Kaslin

But, a number of courts have seen heaps of evidence, affidavits etc. Yet, they’ve taken zero action favorable to Trump.

That’s because the electoral system, as devised, makes it impossible to effectively challenge voting fraud. No court can process sufficiently and fairly all the evidence, claims and counterclaims, testimony, etc. in the time between election day and the day electors are chosen.


There has been a shortage of time, with rushed and flawed submissions. That said, the real issue is that the courts have evaded their duty even where there is sufficient evidence presented to at least allow discovery. A number of courts have behaved in blatantly partisan manners, as well as having created circular arguments and processes to avoid allowing election issues to be heard. That is not a flaw in the Electoral College.

The Courts have also become plodding bureaucracies in their own right, which have evolved to take far longer than necessary to process claims.

The Electoral College is a big part of what makes it possible to break the fraud up into small enough bites to challenge at all. The EC is also just one step of the process. The EC is there to make sure that we HAVE a President.


14 posted on 12/16/2020 5:38:00 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: PapaBear3625

It will never happen!


15 posted on 12/16/2020 5:38:53 AM PST by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues th the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: DarthVader
Like what Lincoln did in 1860 and clean house.

Clean house? President Lincoln did not abolish the Legislative branch of government.

No idea what you mean by that.

16 posted on 12/16/2020 5:39:10 AM PST by Fury (.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

We absolutely have to fight this battle in the states. I’m in Pa. and for too long assumed, with the exception of Philly and Pittsburgh, that voting was legitimate. It was always jokingly said that we have to turn out it greater numbers to overcome the voter fraud in Philly. Well, they beat us with it. There is no way on this earth that we can’t get a receipt for each vote cast traceable to the voter. be it paper or electronic, every bill I pay and every product I purchase gives me a traceable confirmation number. Ballots and envelopes should have matching numbers as well...and traceable to each voter. All precincts, especially in Pfilthydel[phia should have searches of every vehicle and person leaving a vote processing facility. no trash emptied or shredded and all machines and accessories like thumb drives must be impounded/or otherwise secured until the counts are certified. And that HAS to happen the day of election and the next day...not weeks after. There is no way, with today’s supposed technology, that there is any excuse for not doing any of the above.


17 posted on 12/16/2020 5:40:29 AM PST by SueRae (An administration like no other.)
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To: Fury

When Ratcliffe reports the findings of the military/intel community on this election and other things you will learn. No election can fix what has been done.


18 posted on 12/16/2020 5:42:22 AM PST by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues th the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: Kaslin

Turtle signaled that Trump is finished. No RINOs will support him. And all those judges Turtle got confirmed? They have turned out to be in on it with him. Turtle really played the Machiavellian long game.


19 posted on 12/16/2020 5:43:30 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (11/3-11/4/2020 - The USA became a banana republic.)
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To: DarthVader
When Ratcliffe reports the findings of the military/intel community on this election and other things you will learn. No election can fix what has been done.

I'm looking forward to read the report.

But whatever it says, a President cannot act in violation of the US Constitution. If a President does that, depending on what is done (e.g. prevent actions in the 20th Amendment from taking place), I believe a President would be impeached and convicted.

There will be no "martial law", and a President will take office on January 20.

20 posted on 12/16/2020 5:46:59 AM PST by Fury (.)
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