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Shroud of Turin: Interview With Expert of New Book Disputing Medieval Date Test
Townhall.com ^ | December 5, 2020 | Myra Kahn Adams

Posted on 12/05/2020 5:58:58 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 12/05/2020 5:58:58 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

No one can ever prove this is the shroud that covered Jesus. The grant money and other money making opportunities will go on forever.


2 posted on 12/05/2020 6:27:55 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Kaslin
I don't believe the shroud is a real and authentic wrapping for Jesus ... The word "wrap", and the practice of preparing a body for burial (the women disciples were certainly confused by this body that they thought was God and were HURREDLY trying to prepare for burial), doesn't allowed for anyone to pick up a body, lay it down on a VERY large and flat sheet, and fold it over the body to produce a two sided image.

Scripture calls it a "napkin".

I don't believe the shroud is real

3 posted on 12/05/2020 6:27:59 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ..... I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: Kaslin
In before the "I don't need the Shroud to be saved", etc."

Nobody says you need extra-biblical miracles to have faith (although, to be a Christian, one is required to believe that miracles occur). But God sends them anyway.

4 posted on 12/05/2020 7:04:55 AM PST by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: knarf

It’s a very interesting thing. Scientists thought they had it whipped with the first test, but they tested a piece of added material.

But that’s not the real problem for scientists. They are flummoxed by how the image was put on the cloth. It does not penetrate the cloth at all, like paint or any other added substance would. It sits on top of the fibers without entering them. They can’t explain it except to say it may have been caused by a sudden powerful burst of light which lasted for a VERY short period of time.

It’s...interesting.


5 posted on 12/05/2020 7:09:34 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Ghislaine Maxwell lives and Joe Biden is losing.)
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To: Kaslin

The evidence is overwhelming that the Shroud was the burial cloth of Jesus and in fact records His Resurrection.

There are many good Shroud sites but the best IMO is:

https://theshroudofturin.blogspot.com/

This site is not organized for easy comprehension, but fairly and scrupulously covers every aspect of Shroud research. You need to look. It is just plain fascinating.

The central FACT of human Earthly existence is the historical reality of Jesus and all that implies.

The Shroud is a beautiful gift from God, a gift reserved especially for modern man.

I respect those Christians who are anxious to dispute the authenticity of the Shroud. I have heard all the reasons and disagree. God bless you for your pov.

I am simply happy that God has opened my mind and heart to the special gift of the Shroud.


6 posted on 12/05/2020 7:13:37 AM PST by Gratia
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To: SaxxonWoods

all of THAT is after the fact of women levitating the body to set it down on top of a long cloth that is then folded over from head to foot,,, or foot to head


7 posted on 12/05/2020 7:14:05 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ..... I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: fidelis

# 4: well said!


8 posted on 12/05/2020 7:14:54 AM PST by Gratia
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To: knarf
I don't believe the shroud is real

Have you looked at all the available evidence?:

The Shroud of Turin Website

Scripture calls it a "napkin"

The Shroud is purportedly the "burial cloth" of Jesus. The "napkin" was a separate piece of cloth, probably the one used to bind up the jaw of the dead person (John 20:7).

9 posted on 12/05/2020 7:16:59 AM PST by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: Sacajaweau

This shroud stuff belongs in a carnival sideshow.


10 posted on 12/05/2020 7:18:08 AM PST by Loud Mime ("Now, go and do your duty before darkness covers the earth." Michael Uhlmann (1939 - 2019))
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To: Gratia

There’s a pilgrimage church in Rome that has many relics. It also has a full size computer generated image of the Shroud, backlit from both sides.

It is an amazing image to stand before and contemplate.

The church is amazing too. It’s original parts are from around 400 AD. It was built to house the relics that St. Helen collected and brought back to Rome.

https://aleteia.org/2019/01/11/this-church-holds-the-relics-that-st-helena-brought-back-from-the-holy-land/


11 posted on 12/05/2020 7:22:29 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Ghislaine Maxwell lives and Joe Biden is losing.)
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To: Loud Mime; Sacajaweau
This shroud stuff belongs in a carnival sideshow.

You are free to your personal opinion, of course, but a simple assertion does not engage the available proffered facts surrounding the issue at question.

12 posted on 12/05/2020 7:28:28 AM PST by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: Kaslin

None of the Shroud dissenters ever showed how the image was formed nor can they explain the negative image centuries before photography was invented.


13 posted on 12/05/2020 7:54:36 AM PST by SkyDancer (~ Pilots: Looking Down On People Since 1903 ~)
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To: Gratia

Well stated. Thank you.


14 posted on 12/05/2020 7:55:42 AM PST by Hulka ( )
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To: knarf
"Scripture calls it a "napkin"."

There are two cloths. The body wrapping one (shroud) and that which is wrapped around the head to hold the jaw up. The latter is the "napkin" referred to. Scripture notes that the napkin was placed separately from the shroud.

15 posted on 12/05/2020 7:56:27 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (No Longer Tolerating Trolls!)
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To: fidelis; Loud Mime; Sacajaweau

And a snaky insult at believers.

Free to believe what you wish, no one disputes that, however, a rational expression of your stance is best received when stated logically, dispassionately and with respect.


16 posted on 12/05/2020 8:00:29 AM PST by Hulka ( )
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To: Kaslin
Believing in the man-made article regerred to as "The Shroud of Turin" supposedly bearing a representative shadow of the dead body of Jesus will not and cannot impart salvation, regeneration, and life in The Spirit. Presuming that it adds one iota to the Gospel is idolatry, nothing less.
"Faith is the substance of the things hoped for, the eviddence of thinhs unseen"Heb. 11:1 AV).
That is why the regeneerate servant of God and Jesus Friend never seeks such a temporal artifact, because faith stands alone on nothing except Jesus and His Word.

Occupation with the Sh of T is pure idolatry. a Satanic pursuit, IMHO.

17 posted on 12/05/2020 8:10:42 AM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: fidelis

They historically found where Jesus was born, where Jesus was crucified and where Jesus was buried. Good enough for me.

I dont need my faith to be confirmed if they found the place where Jesus hung out for milkshakes and fries when he was 20 years old.


18 posted on 12/05/2020 8:12:10 AM PST by max americana (fired liberal employees at every election since 2008 because I enjoy seeing them cry )
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To: max americana
Nobody says you need extra-biblical miracles to have faith (although, to be a Christian, one is required to believe that miracles occur). But God sends miracles anyway.
19 posted on 12/05/2020 8:17:59 AM PST by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: imardmd1
Sorry for the hasty unedited mistypes in Post #17.

"regerred" = referred

"Faith is the substance of the things hoped for, the evidence of things unseen" (Heb. 11:1 AV).

20 posted on 12/05/2020 8:18:30 AM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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