Posted on 11/30/2020 5:39:50 AM PST by Pollard
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Lots of talk of the machines and software behind them. Nothing specific to AZ yet. I think that Rudy’s goal at this point is to get legislators to choose Trump electors by showing the potential for fraud in these systems which puts the validity of the election in question.
Seems you know so much more than any of the rest of us, Trump, his attorneys, etc. Have you offered them your expertise?
As in “Dominon, you’re fired! You promised they wouldn’t be able to detect it! We’re going to be looking for a better cheaty systems supplier!”
You didn’t hear Rep Kelly Townsend talk about their procedures available to allow unqualified people to cast votes? And the the further discussion of illegal aliens voting?
I know folks in AZ. The ones paying attention tried to primary McCain out of his Senate seat. Everyone else enjoying the sun and golfing were bamboozled every six years when he _ran_ as a rock-ribbed Conservative.
He ran a far harder campaign against JD Hayworth in 2010 than he ever did against Obama in 2008.
Ah. I see. You’re talking about the state GOP machine. You may be right. My mistake.
Yes, all stuff that Rep Kelly and others in AZ already knew. Quite a screwy system and I already commented about illegals or others without good proof of residency being allowed to vote on federal positions.
In the PA case Giuliani argued the claim was insufficient access for poll watchers and different precincts having different approaches to letting voters cure ballots.
Neither of those are fraud but when talking to potential donors Rudy sure made it sound that way.
That's because there's no consequence for BSing in a press conference but there are serious consequences for doing so in federal court.
From the Third Circuit opinion (written by a Trump-appointed judge, BTW>:
"Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here.The Trump Presidential Campaign asserts that Pennsylvania’s 2020 election was unfair. But as lawyer Rudolph Giuliani stressed, the Campaign “doesn’t plead fraud. . . . [T]his is not a fraud case.” Mot. to Dismiss Hr’g Tr. 118:19–20, 137:18. Instead, it objects that Pennsylvania’s Secretary of State and some counties restricted poll watchers and let voters fix technical defects in their mail-in ballots. It offers nothing more."
The other Trump team suits are similar, talking about administrative problems or errors, not fraud.
Even the Sidney Powell suits only rant about Dominion, Cuba, Venezuela, etc. and talk about the potential for corruption, but don't point to specific fraud.
One reason might be the evidentiary standard for fraud allegations is higher in federal court so the casses would only get tossed faster.
After his fawning 2008 “concession” speech, the only people who doubted Ace McAin’s crimes were already sold against America. Including and especially you, Gary Sinise.
That leaves 700K other than good people.
> I thought Katie was going to certify today in AZ.
Yeah... :-( They just certified. The path to Stop The Steal got even harder.
So sick of toadying and coward RINOs abandoning this country. With friends like these, who needs enemies?
Talk is cheap. AZ just certified. Sylvia Allen can talk about the unreliability of the election all she wants, but what is she going to DO about it??
And where is Barr??? It’s like he vanished off the face of the earth. We’re in the legal fight of America’s life here!!!
It sounds like the ballot counting was set up like the software. Overly complex on purpose to create chaos with lack of accountability.
Been thinking the same thing. Seems like some people simply won’t be seen again between now and Feb 2021 or later.
Does this woman remind anyone else of Kitty Forman of That 70’s Show?
She needs to stop. Just not a favorable witness. Rambling on without direction.
This lady is not a good witness. A bit of a moron
Why is Bannon considered the go to guy for information?
Bannon is the American Nigel Farage without the manners, diplomacy, hygiene, self-awareness, and charisma. That is why he got himself kicked out of the administration.
That does NOT invalidate his point of view though.
It did. I voted NO.
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