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Counterpoint: Tucker Carlson and the conservative circular firing squad; Someone who agrees with me 80% of the time and disagrees 20% is not my enemy. But many conservatives are, for understandable reasons, purists
American Thinker ^ | 11/25/2020 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 11/25/2020 6:32:56 AM PST by SeekAndFind

See also: Sorry, Tucker, your outrage is too little, too late

It’s no secret that I admire Tucker Carlson, an honest, brave, and extraordinarily insightful commentator whose Fox News program was, until recently, the most popular program on cable news. With Fox News’ news operation calling Arizona for Biden early on Election Night, and subsequently dogmatically labeling Biden “president-elect” and often dissing those who question the legitimacy of the election tabulations of the mainstream media and the media’s proclamation of the winner, conservatives are infuriated at the network and all its personnel.

Dex Bahr today excoriates Tucker on these pages, but I must speak in his defense, for he is too important and honest to be thrown out with the bathwater, as it were.

First of all, Dex gets one thing wrong, when he writes:

Oh and by the way, if Carlson’s guest, Dr. Robert Epstein, documented all these instances of Google skulduggery, why he is sounding the alarm now and not before Nov. 3? 

In point of fact. Dr. Epstein has been a guest on Carlson’s program (and elsewhere) a number of times, going back years. This is simply a wrongful attack.

But that is a small error compared to the larger principle that the conservative tendency toward forming up circular firing squads is self-destructive. Someone who agrees with me 80% of the time and disagrees 20% is not my enemy. But many conservatives are, for understandable reasons, purists. And, in the case Dex’s critique of Tucker, other than Tucker’s criticism of Sidney Powell last week, which has been covered extensively already including on these pages, the “sins” he enumerates are a matter of disputing Tucker’s choice of which elements of the election fraud to cover and which to not.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservatism; defundfox; foxnews; purists; tuckercarlson
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1 posted on 11/25/2020 6:32:56 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Interesting thought.

I guess it depends on the depth and severity of the “disagreement”, and how it affects your life and what you believe.


2 posted on 11/25/2020 6:36:18 AM PST by JudyinCanada (Aim low, avoid disappointment.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Someone who agrees with me 80% of the time and disagrees 20% is not my enemy.

that depends on the importance of what is being disagreed about.

3 posted on 11/25/2020 6:36:57 AM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh crap, the plebs are getting restless. Quick, activate the “Circular firing squad” gambit!!

Firing squad?!?! Or, perhaps it’s that Tucker has pledged his loyalty to those who sign his check. Nothing wrong with that, you take a check, you owe a duty.

But we owe no such duty, our viewership is what generates the money that pays his check. His employer shot us in the back and we are registering our market choice not to watch or support them.

It’s our choice. No firing squad, but the simple realities of the market place. When I don’t like what you are selling, I don’t have to buy it.

Funny thing about the market. It takes years to build a loyal customer base. It takes seconds to destroy it.

Fox decided to die on the Chris Wallace Hill. So be it, die.


4 posted on 11/25/2020 6:40:06 AM PST by FlipWilson
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To: SeekAndFind

Its tought to be a purest.. ask Jesus..


5 posted on 11/25/2020 6:41:42 AM PST by Ikeon (if agreed with you we'd both be wrong. )
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To: JudyinCanada

the reason we’ve ALL left FOX is simple. They let us down. We expected them to be a outraged as we are. We expected them to be ultra informed and to pursue the apparent election fraud. I’m not talking about ballot harvesting and stuffing, I’m talking about explaining some glaring things that happened.

1. Why was the counting stopped in the various states?
2. Who ordered this?
3. Trump was ahead in Pennsylvania by over 500,000 votes at midnight before the counting stopped, then between November 4 to 7th Biden gained over 500,000 votes, while Trump only gained a few thousand. In the end Biden ended up just under 1 % ahead of Trump.

In other words, he gained just enough votes to win.

In addition, in several counties Biden rec’d more votes than Obama and Hillary did. He in fact garnered 80% of the vote in some places.

This is why we’ve left FOX because they won’t answer these questions.


6 posted on 11/25/2020 6:42:49 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: JudyinCanada

RE: I guess it depends on the depth and severity of the “disagreement”, and how it affects your life and what you believe.

Tucker Carlson COMMITTED two “sins” in the eyes of conservatives, one of omission and one of commission.

1) He failed to take his own network to task for biased election coverage, specifically for calling Arizona for Biden on election night when the counting was not even finished ( took over a week ).

2) His ungracious attitude towards Sidney Powell, insinuating that her evidence for massive election fraud are thin.

He has a lot of explaining to do.


7 posted on 11/25/2020 6:43:10 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Its not a percentage you agree and disagree on... its a critical point you agree and disagree on

The election was stolen.. its self evident... and if you are ok with that... you are corrupt.

8 posted on 11/25/2020 6:43:48 AM PST by tophat9000 (Tophat9000)
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RE: The election was stolen.. its self evident... and if you are ok with that... you are corrupt.

Did Tucker Carlson deny that the election was stolen?


9 posted on 11/25/2020 6:44:21 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Nothing against Tucker I just don’t care to watch Fox News anymore.

Nothing against Aaron Rogers I just don’t care to watch any NFL broadcasts anymore.


10 posted on 11/25/2020 6:44:37 AM PST by UB355 (Slow Traffic keep right)
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To: SeekAndFind

Anyone who works for the Big, Corporate Media is compromised.


11 posted on 11/25/2020 6:45:58 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SeekAndFind

A disagreement about voter fraud in the face of overwhelming evidence is not a policy disagreement, it is a civic duty. You picked the wrong side, Tucker.


12 posted on 11/25/2020 6:47:27 AM PST by KevinB (Quite literally, whatever the Left touches it ruins.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Foxholes. When it really really matters, you better be able to trust the guy beside you.


13 posted on 11/25/2020 6:48:03 AM PST by flipper999 (tag you are it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

My “80% friend” does not counter my “0% friends” I also have to pay for to watch my “80% friend.”

Sometimes the cost is not worth it. However, he’s still my “80% friend” and I’d gladly watch him for free.


14 posted on 11/25/2020 6:49:40 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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...and when.

He seems to wait until the most vulnerable moment to attack. That is what moles and double agents do, bide their time.


15 posted on 11/25/2020 6:50:24 AM PST by tiki (Electiongate)
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To: SeekAndFind

tucker is just a minstrel show on murDouchBag plantation called faux news.


16 posted on 11/25/2020 6:51:34 AM PST by va22030
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To: SeekAndFind

Always refreshing to see some republican take a moral stand against the 80% republican, no matter if such a stand costs us elections, in in this election, the country will be lost forever to the dems.

Moral stand against the system doesn’t change anything but lose elections to the dems and dems will not invite us to take a seat at the table, or even let you in the room. At least with 80% republicans we have access and some influence.

A purity test that causes us to lose, we get nothing from the dems. If the 80% republican wins, in real politic world, we protect from (or slow) dem takeover of the US.


17 posted on 11/25/2020 6:52:10 AM PST by Hulka ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

To disagree about what car to buy or what kind of pie to make for Thanksgiving or disagreeing with a law President Trump might want to implement but to make it sound like President Trump lost the election even though all avenues to his win weren’t investigated is unconscionable
Newsmax is now my go to for news. SCREW FOX


18 posted on 11/25/2020 6:52:53 AM PST by lucky american (Progressives are attac Iking our rights and y'all will sit there and take it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The problem is not the rank and file Rs that supposedly create the circular firing squads, the problem is the spineless, feckless behavior by elected Rs that drive their constituents to have to threaten such circular firing squads.


19 posted on 11/25/2020 6:53:31 AM PST by fatman6502002 ((The Team The Team The Team - Bo Schembechler circa 1969))
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To: SeekAndFind

For sanctimonious self righteous conservatives there can be no opposing voice. Pure thought allows no disagreement.


20 posted on 11/25/2020 6:53:44 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) t Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay My, o. h, my, what a wonderful day)
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