Explainer: Can Trump override the popular vote?

Reuters ^ | Nov 20, 2020 | Tom Hals

[where's_the_Outrage?]

WILMINGTON, Del. (Reuters) - President Donald Trump's latest strategy for attacking the legitimacy of the U.S. election appears to be focusing on a bold power play of persuading Republican state lawmakers to overturn the vote in states won by his Democratic challenger Joe Biden.

To succeed, Trump would have to surmount considerable legal hurdles, overcome public condemnation and sway lawmakers in at least three states to break with democratic norms.

Most election scholars said the odds of Trump ultimately being named president are exceedingly slim....

The president has repeatedly claimed without providing evidence that the election was stolen....

This is a difficult legal argument since the campaign is asking a court to override the vote of millions of Americans because of relatively minor alleged voting irregularities.

[V_TWIN]

I was referring to there will never be enough evidence to satisfy the news media...but I get your point.

[Slyfox]

I think all of the re-counting is a smoke screen.

Kinda defeats the purpose when they are re-counting illegal ballots.

[Pete from Shawnee Mission]

True.

2 + 2 = 5 Learn it recite it. New Left Math.

[rlmorel]

"...No matter who is inaugurated on January 20th half the country will believe it was through fraud..."

But only one half will be correct and reality based.

[DoodleDawg]

But only one half will be correct and reality based.

And each half will believe that they are that one.

[cranked]

Writer’s at Reuters apparently clueless since a POTUS is not elected based on ‘popular vote’ but instead by the electoral college.

[AndyJackson]

The constitution requires us to have an election day which the Congress set for 3 December. We didnt' hold an election on election day. We held a fraudulent fiasco instead. We all know what an election looks like - legal voters casting votes in a manner that they can be counted and known not to be fraudulent. Those counts are then made known to the public and the winner is ascertained by any member of the public who pays attention.

This wasn't an election.

[rlmorel]

This is one of the fundamental issues in this country.

Conservatives believe in Objective truth, and the overwhelming evidence even before the legal cases show up in a courtroom indicates that there was not only election fraud, but massive election fraud, and all of it in ONE direction.

As many legal people say, circumstantial evidence IS evidence, and even in the event (which seems probable) where we don’t get a Perry Mason “I DID IT!” courtroom confession, what we have seen so far points to massive and widespread fraud.

Those are facts.

They on the Left are entitled to their own opinions, but not their own facts.

Because the Left believes in Subjective truth, that we have our reality, and that their reality is just as valid, means what they feel is not to be considered or taken seriously.

As it should not be.

It is a mistake to render to the Left the consideration of the validity of their relativistic leanings by making that concession. It is what may eventually lead us to the path of civil war.

[princeofdarkness]

The NWO had its roots in the 1930’s maybe even before with the League of Nations.

[SaxxonWoods]

So, they say he’s got a chance.

That’s more than they said in 2016.

[Leaning Right]

Wow. You actually went back and checked my posting history? I’m impressed, I guess. I just call ‘em as I see ‘em.

And as a side note, I’d be concerned if JimRob criticized my posts. It’s his site, and his rules. But for everyone else...when you see me name, just skip over the post if I offend you.

[norwaypinesavage]

Of course President Trump can’t override the popular vote. He can, of course, override popular vote FRAUD.

[itsahoot]

Sorry for being so pessimistic. But that’s my prediction.

Sad but true. Without Justice or FBI backing up those charges no judge will listen to them. The traitors in his own house have doomed Trump and the Republic which is what us downers have been screaming for years. This election is not just about Trump, it is about freedom, once lost it is very hard to regain with ballots.

[itsahoot]

So congratulations I am again awarding you the daily Eeyore award!

Freedom is work and you are going to a worker's paradise, it is only a short ride, leave all your stuff here it can be easily replaced.

Where have we heard that before Fireman15?

[fireman15]

Freedom is work and you are going to a worker's paradise, it is only a short ride, leave all your stuff here it can be easily replaced.

All that President Trump and his legal team have to do is convince Pennsylvania and one other state to keep from certifying their electors either through legal means or just convincing their Republican legislatures that their elections were compromised by cheating. Then neither candidate can get to 270 electoral votes and BOOM it goes to the House of Representatives where Republicans have sizable majority of the delegations this year. We win they lose! Case closed!

So wake up and stop spending all of your time fretting in front of your TV watching the MSM liars. We are going to win this thing and all your negativity is going to do is make you look like a big fat loser and aid the cheating opposition. Straighten up and fly right! So you get to share the daily Eeyore award with Leaning Right. You are both swirling in the toilet bowl.

[Leaning Right]

fireman15, I really do not understand why you have personally insulted itsahoot and me.

The first paragraph in your post #55 makes sense. You present an interesting and hopeful scenario. It’s good stuff!

But then come the personal insults. Those insults weaken your argument. Do you enjoy trying to upset fellow Freepers? I truly, truly hope that’s not the case.

Look. I don’t know much. My ex-wife can verify that. But there’s one thing I’m an expert on. It’s Einstein’s Theory of Relativity. I’ve taught the subject on the college level. And there are occasionally posts here that mangle that theory. They get it all wrong, completely wrong. I will not insult those posters! Instead I will try to gently correct them.

It’s the right thing to do. Why insult a person? Why add to any burden they might already be carrying? Instead, try to help them. Gently point out any errors they might have made.

We might not all be brothers here on Free Republic. But maybe we are, at least, cousins. So maybe we should be less insulting, and more helpful.

[arthurus]

Trump won the popular vote. The question is can he override the fraudulent vote?

[fireman15]

fireman15, I really do not understand why you have personally insulted itsahoot and me.

Well excuse me. I have had all the doom and gloom from people parroting MSM pundits that I can stand and my patience has run out. President Trump was winning this thing in a landslide when I went to bed, and in the middle of the night all these shenanigans took place with hundreds of thousands of unverified ballots... 100% for Biden in some cases... tens of thousands of votes switched from one candidate in many cases... a whole lot of statistically impossible numbers... no Republican witnesses allowed... and the vote counting centers which currently take days to tally votes somehow managed to count hundreds of thousands of Biden votes in a couple of hours in the middle of the night.

Then we have these Democrats demanding that President Trump concede and Republicans refusing to stand up and show outrage even though they cruised into reelection because of President Trump's incredible effort. Anyone who stands in the Trump Teams way by parroting media and Hollywood talking points and spreading doom and gloom is gonna get their ration of crap from me... complete with Eeyore gifs etc. and that is a promise. So sorry if that offends you. Count yourself lucky, if we were face to face things would probably go worse.

If you want to discuss relativiety and radiation... I am sure we could have a good discussion. I spent a lot of years as the head of a Hazmat Team, calibrated a lot of dosimeters, and took a lot of classes about using our equipment to detect radiation hazards. I know it is a different focus than what you probably have expertise in. But I have always had a keen interest in nuclear energy especially.

It seems like a terrible missed opportunity that for all these years when much safer reactors could have been developed that very little nuclear power research and development has been done in this country. The Chinese have been working on molten salt reactors, an idea which researchers in this country first promoted. they have been working on this for years now and are far ahead of every other country in the world.

I can guarantee that Joe Biden will do nothing to advance nuclear energy despite being a proponent of the climate change hoax.

[Lean-Right]

“The president has
repeatedly claimed without
providing evidence that the
lection was stolen....”

Also stated repeatedly-”without
providing evidence”

134 signed affidavits is a
mountain of evidence.

[itsahoot]

President Trump was winning this thing in a landslide when I went to bed, and in the middle of the night all these shenanigans took place with hundreds of thousands of unverified ballots.

All true. So what? Has DOJ brought a single charge? Is time running out? Has DOJ or FBI issued a singe subpoena? It is also true they have done none of those things and stop with all that must remain secret cr@p.

We have known on this forum since the beginning that Bill and Hillary was guilty of egregious crimes as was the whole Obama crowd and we new from the start Trump would get more votes in both elections and were smart enough to know that isn't enough, he had to win the count well this time he didn't. In just three weeks we will know if the Republic dies or survives but feel free to spread hopeful messages that they will finally do something. Twenty years of experienced observations here have taught us that being hopeful is not enough.

Remember after the president was elected, that after shouting lock her up for a couple years the first thing the President said was; Don't you think she has suffered enough?

By the way we are standing in the way of no one we are trying to goad someone to finally act. People here spreading cheer and goodwill are merely making the train ride more comfortable.